"We do not have a definition."

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#31 •••
@sadolite

No. I did not. I did not tell you all humans share 100% identical DNA. I said all humans share 99.9...% There are differences, and they are significant, inspire of what appears to be, by percentage, near identical genomes, but one of those differences is not "race."

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

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#32 •••
@fauxlaw

"There are differences, and they are significant, inspire of what appears to be, by percentage, near identical genomes"


But there are differences and those differences are what make up different races of people. "Near identical is not identical"

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#33 •••
@sadolite

Why are you so willing to ignore the Human Genome Project scientific study of 13 years that concluded that "race" does not exist? You know more than they do? Proof, please. The response, "It's obvious just by appearance" is not valid, Appearance can be modified, you know. But do you know how to modify the genome? I don't, and that is true of most people by a huge percentage.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#34 •••
@fauxlaw

The Human Genome Project holds that “race is a social construct and not a biological one. While physical traits vary, DNA evidence does not support the division of humanity into discreet biological races or subspecies.

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#35 •••
@Debby

I am aware of that. Unlike some in this string, which is mine, dated 1/13/26, I read the H.G.P. report when it was issued 23 years ago. Some need to catch up. that many years is like yesterday to some who live in utter woke fantasy

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#36 •••
@fauxlaw

How about this 99.9% of the speed of light is not the speed of light. People are 99.9% genetically but we are not all 100% the same. Saying there are no races based on this is an opinion just as saying race is a social construct is an opinion. The reality of human behavior, thinking and appearance rules over both. And that is something all the science and social constructs will never defeat or change.

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#37 •••
@sadolite

I trust the results of a scientific inquiry of 13 years' duration to be more reliable than any average person's self-centered opinion. I have no idea what credentials that average person has, whereas, I have the credentials of the scientists involved in the HGP study and their reference material, which I can also research, and have.

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We tell God what to do and then blame Him for our errors.

- Dr. Pet Dragon of Sorbonne University

#38 •••
@sadolite

Race categories people by appearance , but these categories are human-invented, not scientifically distinct biological realities.

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#39 •••
@Debby

Yet the DNA makes people distinctly different in multiple ways not just skin color. That just seems to be ignored. That .1% difference is massive when talking about DNA.

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#40 •••
@sadolite
Yet the DNA makes people distinctly different in multiple ways not just skin color.


Mutation is possible. I am entirely different from everyone in my family, even in skin color where I am pale white while they are darker. So I concluded either my DNA mutated a lot or they are not my real family and I am adopted.

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#41 •••
@SatanLucy

" either my DNA mutated a lot or they are not my real family and I am adopted."


Probably the later

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#42 •••

Why did this entire thing sidetrack too much into the race stuff?


This topic is about what a woman is, it's actually important to first answer that.


The difference between men and women is so fundamental that ALL cultures agreed that men weren't women and boys weren't girls. In contrast, difference between racial ethnic subsets has far more nuance and variation to it and is not nearly as fundamental to our species as the difference between our male and female species members.


As Sadolite said, and I noticed even when I leaned left for the majority of my life, you cannot have firm feminism and thus female-based women's rights and also female-specific protections and policies, if you're going to never ever define what a woman is. UK's leftist Keir Starmer caved in to this issue and finally agreed to define it biologically after a major bill held in Scotland, I believe, was won early on in his Prime Ministry.


https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cvgq9ejql39t


The clash between hardline feminists and the modern fully-affirmig transgender movement is actually innate and fundamental because the former holds males as a threat to women that have to have policies in place to 'tame' that threat and protect female-only spaces etc. On the other hand, the latter believes a male can become a female and often believes all it takes is him dressing up as a stereotypical woman and saying he is one. This then, according to the latter, enables that male-sex person to enter female-only spaces and count as female on the policies designed to protect them against male 'microaggresions' as well as overt aggression.

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The US is a definitively secular nation, founded on complete separation of the State and religion. The Left Wing of US realise this but don't realise that pure freedom requires as low tax and free access to guns as possible. The Right Wing of US don't realise that secular pure freedom means the LGBTQ+ and abortion agendas both end up in line with US's liberty-first ethos.

It is left-wing to be pro-life. You are backing poor babies being born at the inconvenience of the already-born. Go figure.

#43 •••
@sadolite
" either my DNA mutated a lot or they are not my real family and I am adopted."

Probably the later


Good point, I've always thought I was probably switched at birth in the hospital, I figure there's some nice, normal family out there that has a weird prick of a son. I thought I knew what it felt like to be Marilyn Munster on "The Munsters" TV show.


Judging by my two sisters, it's hard to believe I was raised in the same house, it seems like we weren't even raised on the same planet.




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#44 •••
@Sidewalker

That has to be mutation to go to the extreme.

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