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Barry Mafia - DP2

Started by whiteflame

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ISO #61 •••
--> @Wryly

I’m fine getting 2 claims today. Any combo of Vader, Thoth, Shining works for me. It bothers me that Thoth hasn’t posted today and the fact that Shining came last minute to hammer, but it was a last minute vote


It also bothers me that Ceru isn’t here either. I’d expect him to be more involved especially considering his claim

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ISO #62 •••
--> @RexFavilla, @Wryly

Are you role and affiliation confirmed or just role.

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ISO #63 •••

Suddenly, I understand what Pie meant about Kohai.

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ISO #64 •••

"You are informed that someone’s role is a greater nuisance than they know."


I'm here theorizing that there's specifically a Ninja and Watcher such that if a Watcher is watching the nightkill, they would only see me. Not particularly enjoying the idea.


Although I am curious if anyone else thinks that could apply to them.

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ISO #65 •••
--> @Shining
I'll grill him for .ore information regarding his claim,

Not sure what more you want out of me on that front, to be frank. I've given you the role, character, and justification, and explained why I was initially hesitant to share it... even if that was, in hindsight, a shaky reason.

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ISO #66 •••
--> @ILikePie5, @Vader
I also behaviorally scumread Kohai.

You said earlier something along the lines of "Kohai is always scummy," no? What made this different?


Because there claim is literally not anything close to a miller as they suggested.

I'm not sure what you mean by this. I think it's very close to a Miller- I might have even called it a "Visit Miller" if my uncreative mind were hosting this. A Miller looks guilty to Cops, my role looks "guilty" to Watchers/Lookouts/Stalkers.

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ISO #67 •••
--> @Shining, @Thoth

VTL Thoth


I can't remember much from this, honestly. I think Shining's behavior at EOD1 and SOD seems town-slanted, but I do have one nit to pick:


His reasoning for being concerned about Pie swapping to me does make some sense- although it might just be a philosophy difference- but for this:


I think Town!Pie realizes that losing a miller would be preferable to losing a dreamer report

It's not as if Pie knew what Kohai was besides being "confirmable." He might have just ascertained that it was a possible bluff (which would have been correct) and ignored it, or thought that it might have been role and not alignment indicative and ignored it.

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ISO #68 •••
--> @ILikePie5

Just role, no affiliation.

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ISO #69 •••

Votes:


Shining (1/4): Pie

Thoth (1/4): Cerulean


Hank: "I should just go to John Wick Assassin Hotel with help wanted sign?"


Just over 49 hours left in the DP.

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ISO #70 •••

Big thing that sticks out on a reread of DP1 is that Luna is a bizarre kill choice if Ceru is scum, as an iso on Luna reveals him to be one of the only people pushing back against Ceru's lynch.


Also, that we should have killed Ceru over Kohai, it would have been a lot more revealing. Kohai flips aren't worth much since he acts so scummy as town.

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ISO #71 •••
--> @Cerulean
#64


Something reall seems off with Cerulean. I really don't understand why Cerulean said that a watcher(/or tracker?) Seeing him visit the dead would be this grand reveal that would cause WF to create a Informed. Thats not what Informeds are for. Its just basic logic. I read that snippet and my mind immediately went towards someone has a hidden aspect of their role.

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ISO #72 •••
--> @Shining

Potentially, if that's realistic for WF to do. But my impression of Whiteflame is that he wouldn't hide an aspect of a role because that could be considered semi-bastard, but I don't have much (any? I can't recall.) experience with his hosting.


To me, the text at the very least could suggest "This person's role seems bad, but it's actually even worse because of what other roles exist in the game."

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ISO #73 •••
--> @whiteflame

Can we replace Thoth please

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ISO #74 •••
--> @Cerulean
Suddenly, I understand what Pie meant about Kohai.


Told you lol

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ISO #75 •••
--> @Cerulean
I'm here theorizing that there's specifically a Ninja and Watcher such that if a Watcher is watching the nightkill, they would only see me. Not particularly enjoying the idea.

Although I am curious if anyone else thinks that could apply to them.


You could flavor anything tbh, but that’s an interesting theory, which actually makes sense

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ISO #76 •••
--> @Cerulean
You said earlier something along the lines of "Kohai is always scummy," no? What made this different?


Nothing really. It’s honestly just a matter of principle and forcing people to change their behavior. Shining/Earth was the same way. Now I’m forced to make him participate because before he leaves one off comments and then shows up a day later

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ISO #77 •••
--> @RexFavilla
Big thing that sticks out on a reread of DP1 is that Luna is a bizarre kill choice if Ceru is scum, as an iso on Luna reveals him to be one of the only people pushing back against Ceru's lynch.


I actually think it’s the opposite. If scum Ceru asked whether a Gravedigger was in the game (after knowing his team had a Ninja), then a Tracker/Watcher would be more willing to side with the gravedigger. It’s a logical choice


Also, that we should have killed Ceru over Kohai, it would have been a lot more revealing. Kohai flips aren't worth much since he acts so scummy as town.


Ideally yes, but in hindsight it was definitely the right choice. I would’ve tunneled Kohai so hard

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ISO #78 •••

Aren't tracker/watcher millers already a thing?

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ISO #79 •••
--> @ILikePie5
Can we replace Thoth please


If he doesn't step up today, I'll see what I can do.

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ISO #80 •••
--> @ILikePie5
Are you role and affiliation confirmed or just role.


No affiliation confirmation.

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ISO #81 •••
--> @ILikePie5, @Shining, @Thoth, @Vader

Determined to kick up some more activity this DP. Let's discuss at least soft claims. We've made little progress.

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ISO #82 •••
--> @Wryly
Determined to kick up some more activity this DP. Let's discuss at least soft claims. We've made little progress.


We’re in the stage where soft claims will just delay time. We need real claims. I would prefer Thoth to full claim, but he’s clearly AWOL. When he gets on he should full claim 100%. But we have to move on until then. I’m fine with the following order: Shining, Vader, Me, Wryly, REF. Thoth jumps everyone when he comes online. Today ideally 2-3 claims.


VTL Shining

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ISO #83 •••
--> @Cerulean, @RexFavilla, @Vader, @Wryly

Help pressure me for Earth’s claim plz

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ISO #84 •••

Why Earth? Why a mass claim?

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ISO #85 •••
--> @RexFavilla
Why Earth? Why a mass claim?


No mass claim. 2-3 claims max including Thoth when he gets on.


Earth cause he’s hard to read and he’s part of POE. POE has Vader, Earth, Thoth, Ceru. My gut feeling is that Wryly is town and I think you’re probably town, partially vibes and cause I believe Wryly. If you’re a pair it’s a gutsy move

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ISO #86 •••

No need to pressure me. I am Jim Moss and I am the Jailkeeper. My justification is that I am really good at interrogations and manipulation so that makes me a JK.

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ISO #87 •••

I asked WF if my role has any hidden aspects NP1 and WF refused to answer.

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ISO #88 •••
--> @Shining
No need to pressure me. I am Jim Moss and I am the Jailkeeper. My justification is that I am really good at interrogations and manipulation so that makes me a JK.


Interesting. Who did you use your role on last night and why?

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ISO #89 •••

unvote

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ISO #90 •••
--> @ILikePie5

That would be you actually. I calculated the risk you being some PR, and prioritized saving you from a potential NK.

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