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Ruyi Zhuan Mafia DP3

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ISO #31 •••
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ISO #32 •••
--> @wylted

ssh

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #33 •••
--> @Banana, @ILikePie5

popcorn!

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #34 •••

Do you know each other’s alignment?

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ISO #35 •••
--> @Magoroth
Do you know each other’s alignment?

Nope. While I townread whiteflame, I am keeping an open mind that he could be scum. Especially with the part wryly mentioned about her role effecting communication between vader and mikals role. Multiple town communication roles seem kind of OP so it wouldn't surprise me majorly if whiteflame turned out to be scum. However until I have a solid behavioral reason to suggest he is scum, I am going to treat him as if he is town and continue to bounce thoughts and ideas off of him in the mason chat. I will say, me and him have been in alignment for most of our reads, maybe besides the read on you in day phase 1.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #36 •••

Depending on how many scum there are, and what the Poisoner’s ability is exactly (1-shot, ?), I think there is a chance we could be at MyLo tomorrow.


Assuming I die of poison tonight, we could be at 7v2 right now. With a mislynch and a Town death, that’s 4v2, MyLo.

And that’s assuming the poisoner can’t poison again. With a Town Vengeful, maybe a scum Poisoner that can poison multiple times isn’t that far fetched, especially considering all the crazy roles we’ve seen yet.


8v3 at start is also possible, but then the poisoner would have to be one-shot (possible); in which case right now it’s 6v3, with a mislynch we lose, so technically there is a possibility, but a slim one, that we are actually at MyLo right now. It would certainly help explain how many people seemingly confirmed each other’s roles.


Idk, it just feels too easy for it to be Pie/Kohai/Banana.

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ISO #37 •••
--> @Lunatic

Somehow I've made myself accept the idea of two identical passives -- sometimes I feel like I'm an idiot to have done so, but mechanically it seems to check out -- but two town chat roles is pushing it. My bet is either Luna or whiteflame are scum.


While I townread whiteflame


Why do you townread him?

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ISO #38 •••
--> @Lunatic, @whiteflame

Do you have any reason to suspect the other might be lying about their role?

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ISO #39 •••
--> @Shining

I have good reason to buy his role claim. Getting down into the why of it would require revealing which of us is which role, so I'll leave it at that for now.

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ISO #40 •••
--> @Shining
Do you have any reason to suspect the other might be lying about their role?


Well one is the only known protective role in the game so far and one is literally confirmed via the chat invitation, so role wise I think both of us are pretty good. I am open minded to whiteflame being scum, but don't currently have any major reason to suspect him. Wryly's role claim of having another communication role initially made me pause, but then again there was also two town roles with the same passive of being able to self identify visits.My conspiracy theory I mentioned yesterday is I think this is a role madness game with multiple town roles that can CC each other. I think Rex did it to add confusion and to balance the fact that town is a bit strong. Me and whiteflame have also theorized there is probably a very strong scum team here as well, but yeah. At the end of the day if me or whiteflame ever make it into a LYLO situation it will be increasingly scummy, so for now I am not openly scum reading him. Scum have large incentive to kill one of us tonight, which will undoubtebly help un muddle this situation, and if we both somehow live, they are risking allowing a doctor to live. Unlikely but possible if they are banking on a mislynch.


Other than that my read on whiteflame from yesterday is my legit read. I town read him but he is still in the POE and he has been quite a bit middle of the road. He has been active and responsive to me in the discord but I will say outside of that and agreeing with a lot of my thoughts and reads, he's been pretty middle of the road and hasn't really advocated pushing in any direction, outside of echoing some of the directions I've pointed out. Either way though, it's been good to have someone to bounce my ideas thoughts and conspiracies off of and to ultimately see he agrees with me on many things to show me I am not crazy or over thinking things has been helpful,.so I haven't seen him as an immediate threat yet.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #41 •••
--> @Wryly
My bet is either Luna or whiteflame are scum.

Definitely a wild conclusion to jump to when there is still three an unclaimed people in this game, and we had the least incentive of any to claim considering we could confirm each other at almost any point, but you do you.

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #42 •••

well if either of those two are real its probably the doctor/bodyguard, the double chat roles is a lil suspicious. interesting decision not to cc wryly with that

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ISO #43 •••

i c its my turn to full claim tho so im an odd night siren. this allows me to learn the emporers night actions and veto them. rex said this ability is seperate from the favor thing so that means he has other roles besides the favor giving. i can confirm this one by basicly roleblocking vader, so while i can do it, its probably anti town to do it and i dont see a reason why i would need to use this one. vader has seemed pretty reasonable so far.


my second role is even night benefactor, and i can give one favor to any person i want. at imperial noble i am an ascetic and am immune non lethal night actions.


so both of these are confirmable

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ISO #44 •••

What do you mean by "Vader has seemed pretty reasonable?" He confirmed town.

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ISO #45 •••
--> @Shining
What do you mean by "Vader has seemed pretty reasonable?" He confirmed town.

i know, which is why i said it would be anti town to veto him even if it technically does confirm me

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ISO #46 •••

Interesting

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #47 •••
--> @ILikePie5, @Kohai

Your turn

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #48 •••
--> @Lunatic

full claim


Character: Noble Consort Xian

Role: Odd-night benefactor and Even-night adjudicator

Odd nights: I can give a favor to another concubine

Even nights: Take a favor and give it to another

If I reach the peak harem rank I become popular.


I admit I am extremely unfamiliar with the flavor and these roles are a bit confusing

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"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein

ISO #49 •••

Hmmmm. Well that’s an interesting claim from Banana. Sorry I went awol but plan on making a lot of posts coming up

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Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!

ISO #50 •••

Kohai’s claim is a bit weird as well

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Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!

ISO #51 •••
--> @Lunatic
Definitely a wild conclusion to jump to when there is still three an unclaimed people in this game, and we had the least incentive of any to claim considering we could confirm each other at almost any point, but you do you.


Two town chats is just so loaded

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ISO #52 •••

Promise I'll weigh in more tomorrow, brain is too tired to play Vizzini right now

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ISO #53 •••
--> @Wryly
Two town chats is just so loaded


The whole town is loaded. I am guessing mafia is too.


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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #54 •••

Noticing a theme here of complimentary odd/even roles. Tracker/watcher, even/odd benefactor, etc

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #55 •••
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ISO #56 •••

so lots of roles are doubled.

would like to hear from everyone how much favour they have and exactly what action they took on night one as well.

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ISO #57 •••

I received one favor from who I assume was vader

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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.

ISO #58 •••

I am here. I literally want to collapse and not wake up again

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ISO #59 •••
--> @Thoth
Consort: Even-night redirector – you may choose one player and redirect their night action to another target
Noble Consort: Odd night bomb – if you are targeted with a night-killing ability your assailant will also die
Imperial Noble Consort: Bulletproof – you self-protect from night kills every night
Starting favor: 3


What are you even doing dude.

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ISO #60 •••

Can someone give me a TLDR of what happened at the end of the previous DP? I’ll read through it when I can

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