Absolutely not. Mafia doesn't know who is mod confirmed town until recruited. Let them push someone who can mod confirm themselves later instead of telling the mafia it's a fucking no fly zone
Town is also pretty likely to fall into this trap, so I don't see major benefit to withholding personally.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
You missed my vote on myself. It may be hidden under Mikal's voter suppression tactics.
Bro you've been around long enough to know that the optimal play is to hide mod confirmability as long as possible. You're rusty.
Like, I don't understand my guy. "I don't want us to waste time getting reads that may be alignment indicative on me when I can confirm myself later. Let's limit the mafia's ability to make mistakes, and it's okay because maybe town makes the mistake too!"
Oh well, you already screwed the pooch so I'm done making my point. If the other guild leader outs though, I'm jumping off a bridge.
I see no self-vote, they done silenced you dawg
Vote Count
Mestari 2/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5
Mag1cman 1/9 - Casey_Risk
Kohai 1/9 - Mag1cman
whiteflame 1/9 - Kohai
Absolutely not. Mafia doesn't know who is mod confirmed town until recruited. Let them push someone who can mod confirm themselves later instead of telling the mafia it's a fucking no fly zone
what
I am going to go ahead and claim that I am Baek Yoonho, leader of the white tiger guild. I am one of the town confirmed players. Since I cannot die np1, I figure it's good to get this out of the way so we don't waste time potentially scum reading me. Its up to the other guild leader if they want to publicly out as well.
Cool, you have my vote wherever you want it.
I also think the other one shouldn’t reveal at this point. With one, we can have a Doctor/Watcher combo to ensure no shenanigans
I don’t like Mestari’s tone, let’s get his full claim
Vote mestari plz
What do you mean "what"? It's not complicated. If we mislynch we're going to go back and look at the wagon after knowing for a fact that the dead player is Town, and use that info productively, yes? So why not let a wagon build on a player who can confirm themselves as town before dying. You get to analyze the wagon and not mislynch. Fucking crazy idea.
I am willing to gas Kohai, but only in the sense of gassing him up
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
I agree. VTL Mestari.
Don’t really matter cause there’s a chance scum know he’s the recruiter anyways
I take it the guild leaders are not officially town-confirmed and are expected to self-confirm whenever they want by not being counter-claimed?
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
He confessed, let’s go
Shoutouts to Mikal for writing the OP with robot assistance. The emdash reveals all
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Vote Count
Mestari 3/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5, Mestari
Mag1cman 1/9 - Casey_Risk
Kohai 1/9 - Mag1cman
whiteflame 1/9 - Kohai
VTL Mestari.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Like, I don't understand my guy. "I don't want us to waste time getting reads that may be alignment indicative on me when I can confirm myself later. Let's limit the mafia's ability to make mistakes, and it's okay because maybe town makes the mistake too!"
Oh well, you already screwed the pooch so I'm done making my point. If the other guild leader outs though, I'm jumping off a bridge.
The experienced scum players can adeptly pull out of a strafe run on someone if it suddenly turns out they can town confirm themselves, and make it look innocent. It's not a huge loss, but I suppose there is some utility in keeping it mum to milk behavioral data.
But definitely don't jump off the bridge until you're no longer contributing entertainment value to the game. That's just being selfish.
Bro you've been around long enough to know that the optimal play is to hide mod confirmability as long as possible. You're rusty.
Like, I don't understand my guy. "I don't want us to waste time getting reads that may be alignment indicative on me when I can confirm myself later. Let's limit the mafia's ability to make mistakes, and it's okay because maybe town makes the mistake too!"
Instead of making broad statements, break down the facts here and risk/benefit analysis of what I am risking by claiming. I thought about this long before I claimed, since I had my role pm since yesterday. Like I said, mafia can't kill me night phase 1 so I got a free night phase anyway, plus if I do die I can pass guild leader anyway (also I already know I am beating the other guild since they attempted to recruit me np1 and wasted one of their recruits since I can't be recruited), I can't even die until np2 at the earliest, and I don't really care if they target me anyways. And like I said, you underestimate towns ability to fall into the trap you mentioned as well, in fact its almost more likely the earlier the game is. I would rather not people waste night actions based on faulty reads on me when we have scum to catch. Plus I am notoriously always scum read as town, and when I finally escaped that trap I rolled scum last game and won, so naturally I feel like I am going to get scum read again and it just feels like a waste of time and energy that I can focus on actually scum hunting.
Feel free to dis-agree or double down on your point, but I think there is merit to this decision.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Don’t really matter cause there’s a chance scum know he’s the recruiter anyways
It's a sub 50% chance and one of the best opportunities we have to abuse scum lack of knowledge.
I take it the guild leaders are not officially town-confirmed and are expected to self-confirm whenever they want by not being counter-claimed?
Yes.
Jeez we're really going all in on Mes right out the gate
I don’t like Mestari’s tone, let’s get his full claim
Seems on par with him actually lol. I remember him having a massive ego.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Vote Count
Mestari 4/9 - Alyssa, ILikePie5, Mestari, Kohai
Mag1cman 1/9 - Casey_Risk
Kohai 1/9 - Mag1cman
Can we stop giving scum free info like the fact that the other guild leader attempted to recruit you? That says something about one of the confirmed town players. If we're going to just give a manuscript then speed lynch me instead. Trust me when I say to just let the structural components of the game go unspoken about for a day or two.
Jeez we're really going all in on Mes right out the gate
We're going for the new gangbang world record.
Btw, I'm not going to claim. Mostly because I don't feel like it. It's kinda like when the homeowners association president told me I couldn't play loud music after 10pm so I started blasting white noise on the boom box outside their house.
