If REF isn’t going to cooperate with town, I’m fine just lynching him on principal
If REF isn’t going to cooperate with town, I’m fine just lynching him on principal
Agreed. Policy lynch
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
he did say he was going to bed. i would at least give him til tomorrow before lynching him
he did say he was going to bed. i would at least give him til tomorrow before lynching him
That’s fine, but he’s not holding people hostage anymore
i do think its funny that giving up after something sus happens is a recuring thing tho. first with alyssa, who just disapered, then with shining who never gave his justification and vanished, and now with rex after a bad result. could just be a timing thing but its odd to see it so many times in a row
Moral of the story is when Pie says he’s confirmable today or else you can lynch him, you believe him
lol
I’m going to wait until you come back (presumably tomorrow) to give up the info on your remaining Guild member(s). We have the time to wait, even if it’s pretty absurd that you’re pushing this information trade after Pie just confirmed himself town. You being the un-CC’d cop gave you some leverage, but this is too much.
Helz is awfully quiet too.
What happened? Cat got your tongue?
My role requires recruitment.
Ok. So can you name the exact role? Don’t tell me what it does. Tell me what is the name of the role
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Actually was having a life and out with some friends eating tacos on a Friday night. Caught up now though
So I am going to say this as kindly as I can. I think the town is fucking stupid here. Lets unpack what happened logically-
We have Rex- A guild leader confirmed recruit to a guild. They voice a red check on Pie. Cool.
Pies response- Starts out with them demanding a full role claim voicing its necessary for their confirmed defence.
Then Pie evolves into "Well tell me if you told your guild mates who you would target! Its critical to my claim and I must know and there is no reason to hide it!"
Then Pie finally reveals. Oh shit- Their claim had absolutely nothing to do with Rex's role? The question of if the guild members of Rex's people knew checking them was a thing did not even have any bearing at all on their alignment claim or confirming that they are town? Hmmm. Interesting.
At this point Pie has utterly and completely lied. The question is why. Scum would obviously want a full role claim and to know who was recruited and unlocked town powers. Lets pause for a second before I ramble about the rest and consider this. That Pie absolutely lied demanding information they did not need acting like it somehow was critical to them being cleared and now it seems like its total bullshit.
So part 2-
Now we have Pie claiming they are confirmed town because they were the actual guild owner. They demand a role claim from Rex as well as information on who is in their guild. Ehhh.. Lets unpack that
Is Pie confirmed town with their claim? I would say in no way. The best evidence is the lack of a counter claim. We know that their guild only got 1 recruit D1 and do not know who (if anyone) was recruited past then. We have not seen a single person step forward and claim that "Yes, Pie was the original guild owner" and absolutely nothing has been confirmed in the slightest. Yet now they are again pressuring the only revealed guild member to out their people and role because.... Uhh... Fucking why?
Mikal called 'Take one for the team'. I dunno. It would make more sense if I was a miller or ascetic, but I didn't make this game.
Im going to put this as lightly as I can-
I do not even slightly understand how the town is handling this bullshit. You have Pie lying their ass off demanding information they do not need and acting like they are confirmed town with an argument that in no way confirms them and looking at lynching a claimed cop with a red check in a situation where town or scum has zero reason to make such a play. What the fuck are you guys smoking?
I’m not lynching Rex. Lynching an un CC’d cop is terrible town play. I don’t care what he aligns with. He has to win with town no matter what
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
Really. I would like to understand any of a few points-
1- How is Pie confirmed town now. Nobody counter claimed and they said they have people? Greaat.
2- Why would Pie constantly lie and demand information that had absolutely nothing to do with them clearing themselves?
3- Why would a scum Rex fake a red check? It makes zero sense in any way
4- Why is it good for the town to reveal who is in guilds? Pie is pushing for this and if I was scum I would be as well. Then I could kill people able to take night actions
5- Is Pie the OG guild owner? If so why did the Mech function smite? How are they verified?
Im going to put it very lightly when I say that there is some thought processes I do not agree with going on. Also super interesting Pie is all about lynching Rex instead of Shining who looks to have totally slipped hardcore. Food for thought..
Honestly this is straight up stupid. Im reframing from saying what I really think but fuck man, lets use our heads just a little bit here.
Then Pie finally reveals. Oh shit- Their claim had absolutely nothing to do with Rex's role? The question of if the guild members of Rex's people knew checking them was a thing did not even have any bearing at all on their alignment claim or confirming that they are town? Hmmm. Interesting.
he was asking because he knew he was town confirmed, so for a guilty to happen he had to have been framed or bussed. this means that someone in the tiger guild set this up because he had likly told someone in your guild chat that he was planning on investigating pie. so unless you can come up with a better reason that the result was wrong, it seems like a set up. and lets be honest it would have worked and pie would have gotten mislynched if he wasnt the guild leader. mafia got very unlucky with that.
At this point Pie has utterly and completely lied. The question is why. Scum would obviously want a full role claim and to know who was recruited and unlocked town powers. Lets pause for a second before I ramble about the rest and consider this. That Pie absolutely lied demanding information they did not need acting like it somehow was critical to them being cleared and now it seems like its total bullshit.
he was literly just asking a yes or no question about whether he had voiced his target to the chat about who he would investigate. why are u so opposed to believing that the tigers dont have a mafia insider in it?
Is Pie confirmed town with their claim? I would say in no way. The best evidence is the lack of a counter claim. We know that their guild only got 1 recruit D1 and do not know who (if anyone) was recruited past then. We have not seen a single person step forward and claim that "Yes, Pie was the original guild owner" and absolutely nothing has been confirmed in the slightest. Yet now they are again pressuring the only revealed guild member to out their people and role because.... Uhh... Fucking why?
this is silly. if pie wasnt the guild leader why wouldnt the real guild leader expose him? also if they are wanting to play safe for some reason they could have someone else in the guild who isnt the guild leader expose it. and lastly we can actually verify this when wylteds role is revealed. the doubt here is so confusing to me if u are a town motivated player. in fact my whole town read on u is evaporting completely now cuz i dont get why u r defending this so hard
I think you are right about Rex and we should not lynch him but I have a few things
1- How is Pie confirmed town now. Nobody counter claimed and they said they have people? Greaat.
2- Why would Pie constantly lie and demand information that had absolutely nothing to do with them clearing themselves?
3- Why would a scum Rex fake a red check? It makes zero sense in any way
4- Why is it good for the town to reveal who is in guilds? Pie is pushing for this and if I was scum I would be as well. Then I could kill people able to take night actions
5- Is Pie the OG guild owner? If so why did the Mech function smite? How are they verified?
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
I think Pie is town, but I also think Rex is town. Lynching him here is stupid. To win as a guild you have to win with the town. My bet is Rex is in the opposite guild and Pie’s wincon is lynching him
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
No I think this is legitimately the case
I see no reason that to lynch Rex. This seems opportunistic and scum can so easily lynch an investigative role. This should not be a lynch option. Period
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
I’m not lynching Rex. Lynching an un CC’d cop is terrible town play. I don’t care what he aligns with. He has to win with town no matter what
nobody wants to lynch him, we want him to give up his guild. theres strong support that there is a mafia inside it and we need to know who that is. rex should have given this up already after strongarming pie into revealing he is guild lead. we are applying voting pressure to help encourge him to reveal the informatin
1- How is Pie confirmed town now. Nobody counter claimed and they said they have people? Greaat.
He claimed guild leader which is mechanically lock town. He claimed Wylted was fake claiming on his behalf to bait the NK
That said if he’s lying Wylted’s flip will expose that tomorrow. This would be major FPS on his part
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
My bet is Rex is in the opposite guild and Pie’s wincon is lynching him
then y didnt luna try to lynch wylted? or do u think its just one guild leaders wincon and not both?
There is 4 votes on him to give up his guild and Kohai has stated he thinks he should be a policy lynch. Either way don’t you see this at opportunistic for Pie. His wincon definetly revolves around Rex’s guild and their wincon, so he would have much more of a benefit to force a mislynch
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
what is fps
There is 4 votes on him to give up his guild and Kohai has stated he thinks he should be a policy lynch. Either way don’t you see this at opportunistic for Pie. His wincon definetly revolves around Rex’s guild and their wincon, so he would have much more of a benefit to force a mislynch
we just want him to tell us who his guild is so we cant find the other scum. they are only talking about a policy lynch if rex remains stubborn. also i will not policy lynch him, but i am helping with the pressure because we need to know the guild
Because they both have to win with town and if they have scum in their guild from there recruited they lose. We’ve just gotten really lucky and hit 2 scum and guilds can afford mislynches at this stage to cement their win con they might have
I think the guild has the wincon but I really don’t know at this point.
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!