Periodic Table of Elements Mafia - DP1

i agree that this is prety likly just mago. he does feel very different. even his defense feels different than other games as town we seen him in. im not worried about his flip being town at all

A 1x rolestopper seems underpowered too. Would not be surprised if it's one part of a mafia joat the rest of which comprises scum specific roles.

Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener?

The question is which one do I believe

Are you CC’ing Helz?

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

And exactly how is my iso a “treasure trove”? Wtf. People are capable of not playing the exact same way every game. That is literally all I’m being accused of, playing differently. How am I playing differently? This is miles away from my scum game lmao.

My scum game is I say weird scummy things. I don’t think I’ve said anything scummy and in any event. People are stating far too high a confidence on my slot considering all they can really say is “he’s different” without actually offering any proof in that regard. Not even proof. Like... an explanation please?

Let’s assume I am Town for a moment. How in God’s name am I supposed to defend myself when the accusations against me are “he’s playing differently” or “he’s offering fewer takes”? What do I say to that? Give me something specific I can actually reply to or I won’t even feel bad for being mislynched. Town’s fault.

Its not just about playing differently and I have explained it thoroughly.

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Refer to these posts for "evidence" or whatever. Respond to any of that and tell me I am wrong. It's not about being slightly different, this is mega different. You haven't taken the wheels once and picked a solid direction.

I don’t have a solid reason for why I haven’t voted. I’m not really feeling it this game. Usually I get vibes from players, I don’t do reads and some such, I rely on my gut a lot. If the gut isn’t working then there’s no votes.

Really, that’s all there is to it. I am not Mafia. If I was Mafia I would at least try to pretend to be scum hunting.

If you dont think your feeling this game, then you should understand why you look so different. Having a gut read is fine, but not having any sense of direction is just not you. Town mago shoves hard. I get wanting to change behaviors but if your changing a behavior to be more in line with your scum play its not a good look. There is almost 800 posts to read through, you had one of the most posts of any player when I last checked, so I know it's not an activity thing. You have been here and participating. That is why not having a firm direction here is extra different.

There’s nothing I can do about it. I can prod people but 1) the type of prodding I would be capable of now would be obnoxious and I do not think anyone wants to be subjected to that 2) I’m not sure how useful it would be.

I dunno who’s scum if I’m being honest. I did get gutpings from Mag1cman if I was to go purely by gut, but I could easily see him flipping Town. Dunno.

Idk who else.

"Also, I am not claiming. Bullish can go suck a dick." Immediately followed by a bullish vote. A heavy claim like that makes me think you are a very strong role, otherwise why mention the claim. Before voting casey for "self pres" this was literally your last vote. What about your thoughts on bullish has changed and why?

I’m not gonna claim because a random person asked me to. Irrespective of my role.

I said Bullish might be scum because of the way he got aggressive. On other sites it would be Towny

I thought about it some more and decided it would probably be a weird play by scum since he forced himself into a claim off of nothing which is weird. There’s more into it but I forgot the exact reason but it was something along those lines

Kohai wrote:

Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener?

More powerful because it also protective and blocks investigatives.

Okay you can the all go fuck yourselves. Bye. Lynch me. Lynch Banana next. Apparently nobody cares, bye

Magoroth wrote:

I think yo know my meta better than Lunatic. People should listen to you because you are confirmed Town. You don’t think I’m scum. LEAD. Don’t let the town mislynch. Mislynching is against the Town’s wincon. Don’t listen to anyone saying “if X flips Town then we do Y thing”. VTNL or vote Mag1cman

The fact that he is even suggesting an No lynch is scummy in and of itself. If I was town in his shoes I would accept being a d1 mislynch if all I was is a strengthener, because at bare min a mislynch here gives tons of lynch analysis information you are deprived from with a no lynch

Am I crazy or is Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener? 

Min of 1 scum between Helz / Mago

Kohai wrote:

Are you CC’ing Helz?

1. I didn’t even know Helz had claimed.
2. I am claiming Strengthener and that I render ppl immune to being interfered with. I do not know what counts as a CC or not and I do not care.

Never seen town mago rage quit before. Just saying. He was being FOS'ed early and decided to do nothing to make himself look better the entire time. He had so much time to get this read changed on him, instead he sat in the shadows and was content with literally anyone else being lynched. Hard for me to buy into the baby rage as town, when he was perfectly okay mislynching casey who was completely offline lol

Kohai wrote:

Am I crazy or is Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener?

Your crazy. Still love you though.

Lunatic wrote:

Kohai wrote:

Am I crazy or is Isn’t a role stopper (essentially an acesticizer) the same exact thing as a strengthener?

Your crazy. Still love you though.

Aww thanks I still love you too

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

I think yo know my meta better than Lunatic. People should listen to you because you are confirmed Town. You don’t think I’m scum. LEAD. Don’t let the town mislynch. Mislynching is against the Town’s wincon. Don’t listen to anyone saying “if X flips Town then we do Y thing”. VTNL or vote Mag1cman

The fact that he is even suggesting an No lynch is scummy in and of itself. If I was town in his shoes I would accept being a d1 mislynch if all I was is a strengthener, because at bare min a mislynch here gives tons of lynch analysis information you are deprived from with a no lynch

I have said this before and I will continue to say it. Allowing yourself to be mislynched or even worse BEING OKAY with it is antitown as fuck. From my perspective it’s the equivalent of lynching Kohai. It’s either gamethrowing or being horribly antitown. I am confirmed Town to myself. I will never be okay with my own lynch unless it MECHANICALLY results in one or more scum being outed, which isn’t the case here.

Lunatic wrote:

Never seen town mago rage quit before. Just saying. He was being FOS'ed early and decided to do nothing to make himself look better the entire time. He had so much time to get this read changed on him, instead he sat in the shadows and was content with literally anyone else being lynched. Hard for me to buy into the baby rage as town, when he was perfectly okay mislynching casey who was completely offline lol

I don’t think I’ve seen scum mag rage quite like this either.

Lunatic wrote:

Never seen town mago rage quit before. Just saying. He was being FOS'ed early and decided to do nothing to make himself look better the entire time. He had so much time to get this read changed on him, instead he sat in the shadows and was content with literally anyone else being lynched. Hard for me to buy into the baby rage as town, when he was perfectly okay mislynching casey who was completely offline lol

There’s a difference. Even Banana who should understand my perspective is now saying it. She literally gets mislynched every game and now she’s doing it to me.

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

And exactly how is my iso a “treasure trove”? Wtf. People are capable of not playing the exact same way every game. That is literally all I’m being accused of, playing differently. How am I playing differently? This is miles away from my scum game lmao.

My scum game is I say weird scummy things. I don’t think I’ve said anything scummy and in any event. People are stating far too high a confidence on my slot considering all they can really say is “he’s different” without actually offering any proof in that regard. Not even proof. Like... an explanation please?

Let’s assume I am Town for a moment. How in God’s name am I supposed to defend myself when the accusations against me are “he’s playing differently” or “he’s offering fewer takes”? What do I say to that? Give me something specific I can actually reply to or I won’t even feel bad for being mislynched. Town’s fault.

Its not just about playing differently and I have explained it thoroughly.

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Refer to these posts for "evidence" or whatever. Respond to any of that and tell me I am wrong. It's not about being slightly different, this is mega different. You haven't taken the wheels once and picked a solid direction.

I don’t have a solid reason for why I haven’t voted. I’m not really feeling it this game. Usually I get vibes from players, I don’t do reads and some such, I rely on my gut a lot. If the gut isn’t working then there’s no votes.

Really, that’s all there is to it. I am not Mafia. If I was Mafia I would at least try to pretend to be scum hunting.

If you dont think your feeling this game, then you should understand why you look so different. Having a gut read is fine, but not having any sense of direction is just not you. Town mago shoves hard. I get wanting to change behaviors but if your changing a behavior to be more in line with your scum play its not a good look. There is almost 800 posts to read through, you had one of the most posts of any player when I last checked, so I know it's not an activity thing. You have been here and participating. That is why not having a firm direction here is extra different.

There’s nothing I can do about it. I can prod people but 1) the type of prodding I would be capable of now would be obnoxious and I do not think anyone wants to be subjected to that 2) I’m not sure how useful it would be.

I dunno who’s scum if I’m being honest. I did get gutpings from Mag1cman if I was to go purely by gut, but I could easily see him flipping Town. Dunno.

Idk who else.

"Also, I am not claiming. Bullish can go suck a dick." Immediately followed by a bullish vote. A heavy claim like that makes me think you are a very strong role, otherwise why mention the claim. Before voting casey for "self pres" this was literally your last vote. What about your thoughts on bullish has changed and why?

I’m not gonna claim because a random person asked me to. Irrespective of my role.

I said Bullish might be scum because of the way he got aggressive. On other sites it would be Towny

I thought about it some more and decided it would probably be a weird play by scum since he forced himself into a claim off of nothing which is weird. There’s more into it but I forgot the exact reason but it was something along those lines

If your read on bullish changed why didnt you bother coming in and explaining that at any point? There is no natural progression indicated between post 403 where you voted him, and post 735 when you posted you casey vote. In fact your activity fell off a sharp cliff over the last 300 posts. But when I start advocating a lynch on you, you magically pop up out of no where?

I feel like Casey / Mago is sleep walking into an easy ML. Actually the more I read the more I’d rather go for Helz.

I am so fucking torn

This is retarded. Leave it to kohai to somehow get us 20 mins out and still not have a lynch after we discussed it for hours. Everyone is prob asleep. Feel like casey is still the best choice out of utility for all the reaons last night. Walking out the door to help get shit ready for graduation next week. Have like 10 mins. Please land on someone before we go to a nl

This shit from luna reeks of a cfd because he knows he can just rub his dick on David's face and david will gobble it up because he cant think for himself. Have no idea how we had two trains and last min after no onr is one we are doing a cfd on mago. Its wild.

And we have 30 mins left.

Mikal wrote:

This is retarded. Leave it to kohai to somehow get us 20 mins out and still not have a lynch after we discussed it for hours. Everyone is prob asleep. Feel like casey is still the best choice out of utility for all the reaons last night. Walking out the door to help get shit ready for graduation next week. Have like 10 mins. Please land on someone before we go to a nl

I have major problems blindly lynching someone on D1 that gives us literally zero info

I have said this before and I will continue to say it. Allowing yourself to be mislynched or even worse BEING OKAY with it is antitown as fuck. From my perspective it’s the equivalent of lynching Kohai. It’s either gamethrowing or being horribly antitown. I am confirmed Town to myself. I will never be okay with my own lynch unless it MECHANICALLY results in one or more scum being outed, which isn’t the case here.

Allowing yourself to be mislynched on day one, where we can afford it the most, when your flip nets the most amount of progressive read direction for future day phases is not harmful. Especially if your a strengthener. No matter what people will be suspect of you in future day phases now, there is 0 way to confirm your role and its a very common scum claim. Getting mislynched here rather than later when town can afford it less is wayyyyy better than no lynching and learning nothing, just to potentially mislynch you later and learn nothing.

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

Lunatic wrote:

Magoroth wrote:

And exactly how is my iso a “treasure trove”? Wtf. People are capable of not playing the exact same way every game. That is literally all I’m being accused of, playing differently. How am I playing differently? This is miles away from my scum game lmao.

My scum game is I say weird scummy things. I don’t think I’ve said anything scummy and in any event. People are stating far too high a confidence on my slot considering all they can really say is “he’s different” without actually offering any proof in that regard. Not even proof. Like... an explanation please?

Let’s assume I am Town for a moment. How in God’s name am I supposed to defend myself when the accusations against me are “he’s playing differently” or “he’s offering fewer takes”? What do I say to that? Give me something specific I can actually reply to or I won’t even feel bad for being mislynched. Town’s fault.

Its not just about playing differently and I have explained it thoroughly.

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Refer to these posts for "evidence" or whatever. Respond to any of that and tell me I am wrong. It's not about being slightly different, this is mega different. You haven't taken the wheels once and picked a solid direction.

I don’t have a solid reason for why I haven’t voted. I’m not really feeling it this game. Usually I get vibes from players, I don’t do reads and some such, I rely on my gut a lot. If the gut isn’t working then there’s no votes.

Really, that’s all there is to it. I am not Mafia. If I was Mafia I would at least try to pretend to be scum hunting.

If you dont think your feeling this game, then you should understand why you look so different. Having a gut read is fine, but not having any sense of direction is just not you. Town mago shoves hard. I get wanting to change behaviors but if your changing a behavior to be more in line with your scum play its not a good look. There is almost 800 posts to read through, you had one of the most posts of any player when I last checked, so I know it's not an activity thing. You have been here and participating. That is why not having a firm direction here is extra different.

There’s nothing I can do about it. I can prod people but 1) the type of prodding I would be capable of now would be obnoxious and I do not think anyone wants to be subjected to that 2) I’m not sure how useful it would be.

I dunno who’s scum if I’m being honest. I did get gutpings from Mag1cman if I was to go purely by gut, but I could easily see him flipping Town. Dunno.

Idk who else.

"Also, I am not claiming. Bullish can go suck a dick." Immediately followed by a bullish vote. A heavy claim like that makes me think you are a very strong role, otherwise why mention the claim. Before voting casey for "self pres" this was literally your last vote. What about your thoughts on bullish has changed and why?

I’m not gonna claim because a random person asked me to. Irrespective of my role.

I said Bullish might be scum because of the way he got aggressive. On other sites it would be Towny

I thought about it some more and decided it would probably be a weird play by scum since he forced himself into a claim off of nothing which is weird. There’s more into it but I forgot the exact reason but it was something along those lines

If your read on bullish changed why didnt you bother coming in and explaining that at any point? There is no natural progression indicated between post 403 where you voted him, and post 735 when you posted you casey vote. In fact your activity fell off a sharp cliff over the last 300 posts. But when I start advocating a lynch on you, you magically pop up out of no where?

“My activity fell off"

It’s called nighttime, I’m not here when I’m asleep. Half the posts from today from like page 14 to like 23 were made when I was asleep.

And, I had this thought somewhere randomly when I wasn’t in the thread and I’d mostly forgotten about it.

This type of questioning feels the exact same as in Rex’s game ngl how many questions do I need to answer? Am I even gonna be believed that I am Town or should I stop wasting my time. I don’t have a reason for everything I do for God’s sake. I just do things I feel like doing when I feel like doing them

P#614 doesn’t make sense from a town POV. Why would they die over me? p#662 also pings me

Kohai wrote:

I feel like Casey / Mago is sleep walking into an easy ML. Actually the more I read the more I’d rather go for Helz.

Look at how much resistance his lynch is getting. He has been a prime suspect since early in the game, and his voting behavior makes no sense from town mago. I am not lynching helz tbh. Don't let him manipulate you.

Mikal wrote:

This is retarded. Leave it to kohai to somehow get us 20 mins out and still not have a lynch after we discussed it for hours. Everyone is prob asleep. Feel like casey is still the best choice out of utility for all the reaons last night. Walking out the door to help get shit ready for graduation next week. Have like 10 mins. Please land on someone before we go to a nl

This shit from luna reeks of a cfd because he knows he can just rub his dick on David's face and david will gobble it up because he cant think for himself. Have no idea how we had two trains and last min after no onr is one we are doing a cfd on mago. Its wild.

Yeah, I said this about Luna too, but I don’t fucking know.

At this point part of me kinda wants to give up cause I don’t feel like defending myself and I have a strong suspicion I’m gonna die anyways

Lunatic wrote:

Kohai wrote:

I feel like Casey / Mago is sleep walking into an easy ML. Actually the more I read the more I’d rather go for Helz.

Look at how much resistance his lynch is getting. He has been a prime suspect since early in the game, and his voting behavior makes no sense from town mago. I am not lynching helz tbh. Don't let him manipulate you.

WHAT RESISTANCE LOL EERYONE IS SAYING TO LYNCH ME WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU ON ABOUT