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Bullish (1/6): Lunatic (p#100)
Casey_Risk (1/6): Thoth (p#121)
Mikal (1/6): Bullish (p#146)
Not Voting (8): Banana, Casey_Risk, Helz, Mag1cman (p#127), Mikal, RexFavilla, Shining, whiteflame
With 11 players alive, it takes 6 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 13 hours.
This is a luttle frustrating. I'll need to think about the night. No grand reveal from me. Still a little sus of Lunatic but I'll also rethink all my reads.
I wanna note that pie technically named my role "Time Traveller", but it's basically retroactive motion detector. There's no justification for the motion detector part.
I was going for someone who was least likely to have someone visit them, but also not totally inactive. There are 3 ways to catch a lie with this role.
But like I said the idea is to wait for everyone to out, then catch a lying action retroactively, so the NP1 target was probably the least important one.
I am kinda surprised bullish is just buying the dreamer claim at face value. I feel like its entirely obvious and could be potentially be faked and throwing us off a cliff. The lack of consideration of that possibility given there are now 3 claimed investigation roles is concerning. Not sure i am buying a moving motion detector, a dreamer and a tracker
I think one of the lynch targets is there
I buy rex as town because I just dont see him outing a result in the way he did
That leaves bullish and casey. I am leaning casey but now having seconds thoughts after bullish just dismissed the option of a fake claimed dreamer when op literally said mafia could ask questions about roles and stuff. Especially given the attention casey had last dp and where set to be a target.
Kinda feels like casey may be telling the truth and this is a pivot from him because hes implicated in results that he knows are accurate.
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In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
^^^ this above comment literally makes no sense. If Casey was lying, why the fuck would he put me, his scum buddy, in the results? Also completely ignores the part where scum casey would not know if he was visited unless they have a scum watcher/motion detector, thus making his immediate result claim risky.
From my pov
I buy wf potentially being town. Could be overthinking but with a mass rb thing and a strengher and for thematic shit I can see it. Wf just seems so town in our pm.
I don't see luna claiming compulsory hider as scum. Its a retarded claim
Just 3 investigative roles. 2 are dreamer and something bullish is saying he can retro check lies. I dont know. That feels like its to much and something is def off
Damn casey took whiteflame's character.
Also isn't it crazy magnesium is named magnesium despite having nothing to do with magnets
Read harder
Casey is either lying and you are town
Or casey is truthful and you could be scum
Blindly ignoring the fact mafia could claim a fake dreamer when they get questions just cus. Feels wrong. It feels very tmi. Like as scum you know thay result is accurate so you want to push someone on the list.
There is no consideration from you that its fake. That reads very bad to me.
I think its whether its your or casey. Especially given there are 3 investigation roles now
Bullish wrote:
I wanna note that pie technically named my role "Time Traveller", but it's basically retroactive motion detector. There's no justification for the motion detector part.
At least from what I've read about the role, that seems accurate. Do you get to select the night?
I was going for someone who was least likely to have someone visit them, but also not totally inactive. There are 3 ways to catch a lie with this role.
"no motion" - someone claimed they visited my target - someone is lying
"no motion" - my target claims they performed an action - my target is lying
"yes motion" - my target claims a passive/vanilla role, AND no one else claims they visited my target - either my target is lying or scum visited them.
But like I said the idea is to wait for everyone to out, then catch a lying action retroactively, so the NP1 target was probably the least important one.
I still don't get how your result implicates me. I get that it can implicate your target, but not how it implicates me this DP.
Town lean/pile
Luna
Wf
Skep
Myself
Null
Magic
Anna
Lynch pile
Bullish
Casey
Thoth
Note : dont see bullish and casey as scum together. Its one or the other.
If I'm scum couldn't I also try to lead the town to think that the results are fake? possibly even get a mislynch on casey? So you can reason that I'm scum either way. You STILL haven't addressed how casey would know if he was visited.
I want to hear from Anna
But I think i wana go casey. I think the flip either immediately hits scum or gives us a workable poe tomorrow
whiteflame wrote:
Bullish wrote:
I wanna note that pie technically named my role "Time Traveller", but it's basically retroactive motion detector. There's no justification for the motion detector part.
At least from what I've read about the role, that seems accurate. Do you get to select the night?
Yes. any night
I still don't get how your result implicates me. I get that it can implicate your target, but not how it implicates me this DP.
Implicate as in involve, not incriminate.
Bro I have no idea what you are trying to argue.
As scum if you lynch casey and if casey is town. You are immediately in a 33 with me and luna and you look bad
So yeah pushing for me or luna makes sense assuming you have tmi or a heavy assumption the dreamer is real. Because you still have outs tomorrow.
You are blindly accepting a claim is accurate when there is a heavy possibility its a fake claim. Tell me how that isn't tmi
Things is I thought about claiming only the motion detector part, but I couldn't come up a justification for that without the time traveling part, so I had to out everything.
ok so it looks like a lot happened....
do we have any real reason to beleve casey would lie? dreamer seems like a risky fake claim why would she risk it
Dude if casey dies it's 9 players tomorrow with 3 scum, it's 1/3 anyway. And by saying casey's results are real I'm put into this 1/3 situation IMMEDIATELY without even getting a mislynch on casey. Also I gave you TWO reasons why I accept casey's results and you keep calling it "blindly" without addressing them
Implicate as in involve, not incriminate.
I'm not going to split hairs on this, but your use of the word could use work in this instance.
Bullish wrote:
Things is I thought about claiming only the motion detector part, but I couldn't come up a justification for that without the time traveling part, so I had to out everything.
Not questioning the decision to out your role in full here.
Casey was the primary lymch target last day phase and if there are 3 scum. Today and tomorrow likely end the game. Dreamer is not some rare fake claim given they can ask questions about what's in the game. If it is fake. They just win cus we are lynching in a pool
Id put a gun to my head. 1 scum is between casey and bullish given all the investigation roles.
Saying a person who's not active would not fake claim when there are 3 scum isn't a reason. Its retarded lol
Yes if casey dies and is town its 33. If casey dies and is scum. It basically gives you heavy cred
Which is why im saying pushing for me or luna makes sense if you are scum cus as scum why do you want casey to die if you are tmi and know they are town
The justification makes passable sense. I think I remember a game with this role, but it’s a while back and I’m not going digging.
I think it was CoD Black Ops Mafia. There was a role like it in that game
Mikal wrote:
Casey was the primary lymch target last day phase and if there are 3 scum. Today and tomorrow likely end the game. Dreamer is not some rare fake claim given they can ask questions about what's in the game. If it is fake. They just win cus we are lynching in a pool
Id put a gun to my head. 1 scum is between casey and bullish given all the investigation roles.
my worry is that as scum u probably just think u can get a mislynch on her here ez then u can talk ur way into one more when she flips inno for the win. cuz oops, she was town, guess her results were correct, lets lynch bullish or lunatic nowm when it was just u the whole time
Bullish is like bleeding tmi. My gut wants to yeet him for poe cus of the investigation roles and because id the logic around the dreamer. There is just an assumed dumb reason it exists.
But I think regardless of what I want in the moment. Casey is prob the right choice. Cus it helps solve
Bullish wrote:
Dude if casey dies it's 9 players tomorrow with 3 scum, it's 1/3 anyway. And by saying casey's results are real I'm put into this 1/3 situation IMMEDIATELY without even getting a mislynch on casey. Also I gave you TWO reasons why I accept casey's results and you keep calling it "blindly" without addressing them
^^^ thissssss
I'm so done with mikal bruh
-- if casey is lying, I'm scum
-- if casey is telling the truth, I'm scum
-- if I think casey is lying, i'm scum
-- if I think casey is telling the truth, believe it or not, I'm also scum.
Which is exactly what bullish is doing BTW
And yes if casey flips town. Its very likely bullish unless you buy 3 hard investigative roles
A dreamer
Some motions detection time traveler
And a tracker
From my pov its heavy bullish but going casey covers all bases.
You really didn't fucking read
I said if casey is scum you are prob town. The fuck are you looking at.
