Looks like it’s gonna be 1 v 1. Regardless I’m stuck playing this retarded game until the end. FML
Looks like it’s gonna be 1 v 1. Regardless I’m stuck playing this retarded game until the end. FML
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
This has to be MvM or MvT. High odds at least one scum between Vader and Kohai with wagonomics and interactions
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
Agree. It’s nice seeing a clear wagon and CW for a change even if I’m one of them.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
Agree. It’s nice seeing a clear wagon and CW for a change even if I’m one of them.
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/22/2026 at 11:02 AM (post #328)
VTL Vader
thought he was at L1
Any thoughts to lead us into the end of the day? I gotta say the lack of engagement from you hear at the end is not super warming me to the idea that you are town.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Thought he was at L-3 tbh
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:04 PM (post #335)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/22/2026 at 11:02 AM (post #328)
VTL Vader
thought he was at L1
Any thoughts to lead us into the end of the day? I gotta say the lack of engagement from you hear at the end is not super warming me to the idea that you are town.
My main thoughts:
I dislike pie still.
I still don’t think we should be claiming characters.
Regardless of what happens I will give more thoughts tomorrow
"Kohai, your entrance to the thread was legendary, you had a solve and a winning PoE right when you showed up, super impressive stuff, even more so considering it wasn't even your objective!!" - Zrein
Official Vote Count
vader (4/5) - Banana, Thoth, lunatic, Kohai
Kohai (4/5) - Pie, whiteflame, magic, Vader
Not voting: JenKiggans,
unvote
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 11:02 AM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
i am here. im still confortable on vader, his roleblocker claim doesnt move me much. i have been town roleblocker a few times as well, but his behavior seems very relaxed for him being one of the top wagons
Pie moving to unvote essentially secured my fate tbh
Scum team is probably Magic/Kohai. If I was a cop I’d be more in a fit but a roleblocker doesn’t do anything but neg utility anyway and I can make fun of Pie for being wrong
Kick logic to the curb and do the impossible!
Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/22/2026 at 11:06 AM (post #337)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:04 PM (post #335)
Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/22/2026 at 11:02 AM (post #328)
VTL Vader
thought he was at L1
Any thoughts to lead us into the end of the day? I gotta say the lack of engagement from you hear at the end is not super warming me to the idea that you are town.
My main thoughts:
I dislike pie still.
I still don’t think we should be claiming characters.
Regardless of what happens I will give more thoughts tomorrow
Only pie has pushed for claims heavily. Outside of that we have all been just soft claiming. Can you give us something more? Only thing I have from you is that your character and role make no sense, which is basically nothing.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Before we end the phase I really think you should give some sort of soft. You are absolutely the only person besides kiggans who hasn't given any sort of soft, which defeats the purpose of a mass soft. Are you afraid to lock yourself into something?
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
Good timing, I just caught back up.
I think both wagons have decent logic to them and, frankly, neither Vader nor Kohai is that likely to have any form of confirmation, but at least Vader has a role that could theoretically be "confirmed," particularly with the possibility of stopping an NK. I can't say anything from Kohai has swung me on my decision to VTL him, and much as I get his frustration, he should know that he'd be a target this game given he was just scum last game. So the decision not to full claim reads a more scummy to me.
And while I've kind of been giving JenKiggans the benefit of the doubt, their continued absence is making me question it. I don't want to disincentivize them from playing in future games, but I can only take that justification so far.
Originally Posted by Vader on 9/22/2026 at 12:08 PM (post #341)
Pie moving to unvote essentially secured my fate tbh
Scum team is probably Magic/Kohai. If I was a cop I’d be more in a fit but a roleblocker doesn’t do anything but neg utility anyway and I can make fun of Pie for being wrong
Convince someone here to vote with Kohai and I’ll consider voting Kohai
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:10 PM (post #343)
Before we end the phase I really think you should give some sort of soft. You are absolutely the only person besides kiggans who hasn't given any sort of soft, which defeats the purpose of a mass soft. Are you afraid to lock yourself into something?
We shouldn’t have mass softed in the first place. And Kiggans definitely should go first
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/22/2026 at 11:11 AM (post #344)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
Good timing, I just caught back up.
I think both wagons have decent logic to them and, frankly, neither Vader nor Kohai is that likely to have any form of confirmation, but at least Vader has a role that could theoretically be "confirmed," particularly with the possibility of stopping an NK. I can't say anything from Kohai has swung me on my decision to VTL him, and much as I get his frustration, he should know that he'd be a target this game given he was just scum last game. So the decision not to full claim reads a more scummy to me.
And while I've kind of been giving JenKiggans the benefit of the doubt, their continued absence is making me question it. I don't want to disincentivize them from playing in future games, but I can only take that justification so far.
As far as Jen goes, I think we focus on them dp2 pretty heavily. Don't think we have time to really steer a wagon there, but I agree Jen is 100% a problem based on the activity.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/22/2026 at 11:15 AM (post #346)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:10 PM (post #343)
Before we end the phase I really think you should give some sort of soft. You are absolutely the only person besides kiggans who hasn't given any sort of soft, which defeats the purpose of a mass soft. Are you afraid to lock yourself into something?
We shouldn’t have mass softed in the first place. And Kiggans definitely should go first
Why not? You seem pretty pro "getting claims". A soft just locks people in into something they can't back out of without giving away real information.
In loving Memory of Lannan and Ajab, fallen debaters.
Couldn’t get Kohai to claim.
unvote
I’ll hammer later in the hour, gonna let people talk things out more.
I agree that we should pressure Kiggans next DP.
I still don’t know what to type!
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:17 PM (post #348)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/22/2026 at 11:15 AM (post #346)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:10 PM (post #343)
Before we end the phase I really think you should give some sort of soft. You are absolutely the only person besides kiggans who hasn't given any sort of soft, which defeats the purpose of a mass soft. Are you afraid to lock yourself into something?
We shouldn’t have mass softed in the first place. And Kiggans definitely should go first
Why not? You seem pretty pro "getting claims". A soft just locks people in into something they can't back out of without giving away real information.
Claims are solid, softs aren’t, but fine idrc, mine can be good or bad depending on who you ask
VTL Vader
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:16 PM (post #347)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/22/2026 at 11:11 AM (post #344)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #329)
We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.
Good timing, I just caught back up.
I think both wagons have decent logic to them and, frankly, neither Vader nor Kohai is that likely to have any form of confirmation, but at least Vader has a role that could theoretically be "confirmed," particularly with the possibility of stopping an NK. I can't say anything from Kohai has swung me on my decision to VTL him, and much as I get his frustration, he should know that he'd be a target this game given he was just scum last game. So the decision not to full claim reads a more scummy to me.
And while I've kind of been giving JenKiggans the benefit of the doubt, their continued absence is making me question it. I don't want to disincentivize them from playing in future games, but I can only take that justification so far.
As far as Jen goes, I think we focus on them dp2 pretty heavily. Don't think we have time to really steer a wagon there, but I agree Jen is 100% a problem based on the activity.
Seems not, would've taken a CFD at this point anyway.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/22/2026 at 1:25 PM (post #350)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:17 PM (post #348)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/22/2026 at 11:15 AM (post #346)
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 12:10 PM (post #343)
Before we end the phase I really think you should give some sort of soft. You are absolutely the only person besides kiggans who hasn't given any sort of soft, which defeats the purpose of a mass soft. Are you afraid to lock yourself into something?
We shouldn’t have mass softed in the first place. And Kiggans definitely should go first
Why not? You seem pretty pro "getting claims". A soft just locks people in into something they can't back out of without giving away real information.
Claims are solid, softs aren’t, but fine idrc, mine can be good or bad depending on who you ask
Still, gives us something to work with. Interesting.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/22/2026 at 1:25 PM (post #351)
VTL Vader
Guess we'll see how this shakes out.
Official Vote Count
vader (5/5) - Banana, Thoth, lunatic, Kohai, Pie,
Kohai (2/5) - whiteflame, Vader
Not voting: JenKiggans, magic,
Vader has been lynched! Verification and then flip coming up.
Results have been verified, Vader has been lynched with Pie as the hammer!
Town
Vader - Solar flare - Anomalous surface turbulence may cause massive quantities of high energy electromagnetic emissions to escape the sun and hit earth. While solar flares are unlikely to directly harm humans on earth, they could cause an EMP that fries all electronics on earth, which may cause economic and then societal collapse. You are the town 2x roleblocker.
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