Originally Posted by Wryly on 11/4/2026 at 7:48 PM (post #210)
Ah, Pie already said like Masons for instance. Hadn't reread that far.
Aside from Rex and Thoth, basically all I have to go on for anyone else is vibes, and I really hate going on vibes. I always sus whiteflame and Pie, so I don't trust my gut on either of them. There's not much to go on for Helz or Mago, and wylted is eh. I have a good feeling about Nana but I always have a good feeling about Nana.
rex and hhelz are pretty inactive we could push for one of them to post since dp1 ends tomorrow
boop!
mago i mean rex claimed miller already i think
boop!
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/4/2026 at 9:12 PM (post #211)
I almost feel like banana fucked up so much as scum last game that lunatic wouldn't want to risk making her scum here.
Surely Luna RNGs
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
He confirmed to me that he did
Forum signatures are bullshit. Nobody wants to waste their time and bandwidth reading something they have read 29,998,559,671,349 times before.
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #206)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 7:17 PM (post #202)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #200)
yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm
He’s claimed various outlandish stuff before if my memory serves correct
yeah but bus driver isnt outlandish, its straight a scum role. by outlandish i would think maybe some off kilter role that he thought would be obscure. do u think bus driver is in that category
It’s not a straight scum role. People including myself have used it as a town role. But think of it this way. What’s the point of Luna giving town a Bus Driver, especially when significantly more often than not, it’s going to harm town. The logical option for a Town BD would be to just waive till later in the game. It has massive utility for scum.
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Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 10:24 PM (post #216)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #206)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 7:17 PM (post #202)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #200)
yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm
He’s claimed various outlandish stuff before if my memory serves correct
yeah but bus driver isnt outlandish, its straight a scum role. by outlandish i would think maybe some off kilter role that he thought would be obscure. do u think bus driver is in that category
It’s not a straight scum role. People including myself have used it as a town role. But think of it this way. What’s the point of Luna giving town a Bus Driver, especially when significantly more often than not, it’s going to harm town. The logical option for a Town BD would be to just waive till later in the game. It has massive utility for scum.
he did mention he could waive. and the point of giving town these roles is for potential mislynches
boop!
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/5/2026 at 12:24 AM (post #216)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:34 PM (post #206)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/4/2026 at 7:17 PM (post #202)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/4/2026 at 8:13 PM (post #200)
yeah on second thought i dont think thoth would claim bus driver like that hmm
He’s claimed various outlandish stuff before if my memory serves correct
yeah but bus driver isnt outlandish, its straight a scum role. by outlandish i would think maybe some off kilter role that he thought would be obscure. do u think bus driver is in that category
It’s not a straight scum role. People including myself have used it as a town role. But think of it this way. What’s the point of Luna giving town a Bus Driver, especially when significantly more often than not, it’s going to harm town. The logical option for a Town BD would be to just waive till later in the game. It has massive utility for scum.
I would've liked to hear before now that you knew of precedent for a town BD. But if you used it in one of your games, then I wouldn't mind you answering your own question. What was the point of you giving town a BD?
Bring the fucking like button back to mafia, you fun-killing fascists.
VTL: Magoroth
lack of activity
boop!
Some quick thoughts as I am starting my day and squeezed in some time to catch up on the thread-
In general reading up I am lacking any real understanding of Mag, Wylted or Thoth's positions on players which I dislike. Thoth having that lack stuck out to me given how active they have been. IIoA comes to mind as I see a lot of interaction thats focused on claims and defense without the substantial reads and hunting. Everyone is critical of their claim. I feel like a town BD is a very reasonable balance to games that counters a strong scum team as well as potentially nerfs town early and buffs us late game. I think people should skim their ISO and see what I mean there.
Banana is starting to ping me more. Usually my thoughts line up with theirs very well and while I am not looking as deep as normal I am seeing points I do not understand. Its from memory and a gut read so not worth much but they just feel different to me in that I am not constantly reading their words and thinking I could have been the one to say them. The mind meld is just not here this game.
Mag needs to give more info. I am also crazy busy with life but they are kinda a blank slot by memory. I do not really remember a single stance from them on a player.
Rex feels a bit paranoid looking at their 128 wall. Seems like almost everyone is either neutral or scum and I am not even sure what to think of their take on Wylted there. Comes with zero reasoning which does nothing to help me understand what they are looking at or why they feel the way they do but while I think I was their only town lean I specifically was looking at that as I skimmed them. Not seeing much to change my view and found it slightly odd everyone just obsessed about the miller claim and did not really examine their positions.
On that miller claim, Something I have wondered is if a town BD and a town Miller could exist in such a small game. They are 2 separate utilities that effectively nerf town suggesting we must have a very OP town behind it or simply that one of the two is scum. Something to consider.
I still like WF. Solid reasoning I mindmeld with even if I am still just paranoid about them.
Nothing has really changed with my view of Wryly other than wanting a stronger understanding of their positions. They are around and interacting but from memory I am not any closer to really understanding where they are coming from. Their #210 seems like the closest breakdown of their reads and it felt super noncommittal. Not really any hard stance or solid reasoning. Just kinda throwing out a vague stance on everyone that may as well blow away with the wind.
Anyways. Thats whats on the top of my head. I will try to get back in before days end but duno how my day will go.
Banana is starting to ping me more. Usually my thoughts line up with theirs very well and while I am not looking as deep as normal I am seeing points I do not understand. Its from memory and a gut read so not worth much but they just feel different to me in that I am not constantly reading their words and thinking I could have been the one to say them. The mind meld is just not here this game.
what specifically u talking about.?? i think my only major opinion so far is that the thoth wagon seems like lowing hanging fruit.
boop!
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Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 7:30 AM (post #223)
Banana is starting to ping me more. Usually my thoughts line up with theirs very well and while I am not looking as deep as normal I am seeing points I do not understand. Its from memory and a gut read so not worth much but they just feel different to me in that I am not constantly reading their words and thinking I could have been the one to say them. The mind meld is just not here this game.
what specifically u talking about.?? i think my only major opinion so far is that the thoth wagon seems like lowing hanging fruit.
Couple hours left boo who we gunna lynch together <3
"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."
T. S. Eliot
I'm just exhausted after a terrible night's sleep. Going to catch up on the DP, but I doubt I'll be much use figuring out a lynch this morning.
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/5/2026 at 6:36 AM (post #221)
it's insane that so many people have not placed a vote. we need votes cast so we know where everyone stands. there is also likely two scum in the non voters. in general scum want to be the most flexible people early gane
You know, I'm realizing my vote on you never actually registered, but that's fine. Less convinced of my sus on you right now.
We have 4 hours left folks. Thoth hasn’t even attempted to scum hunt. He’s basically resigned. Town Thoth would push back on me
On that miller claim, Something I have wondered is if a town BD and a town Miller could exist in such a small game. They are 2 separate utilities that effectively nerf town suggesting we must have a very OP town behind it or simply that one of the two is scum. Something to consider.
That came to mind as well. It's a lot of negative town utility, and while you could argue that the lack of requirement that Thoth use the BD makes it less of a problem, it effectively just means the role shifts to a Vanilla player with a worse claim that can never be confirmed or tested.
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 11/5/2026 at 8:57 AM (post #228)
We have 4 hours left folks. Thoth hasn’t even attempted to scum hunt. He’s basically resigned. Town Thoth would push back on me
Thoth is my current inclination. Don't see much reason for the push on Mago. Still hesitant on Wylted, but not enough to put him over Thoth. I'm with you that I could absolutely see Thoth just straight up claiming this in the hopes that it's too out there to be scumread, though at this point, he should know we'd all flag it. Worst case scenario, we lose a negative town utility role that was effectively never going to be used anyway.
Not going to vote just yet, but I'll be here until EOD.
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/5/2026 at 6:18 AM (post #225)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 7:30 AM (post #223)
Banana is starting to ping me more. Usually my thoughts line up with theirs very well and while I am not looking as deep as normal I am seeing points I do not understand. Its from memory and a gut read so not worth much but they just feel different to me in that I am not constantly reading their words and thinking I could have been the one to say them. The mind meld is just not here this game.
what specifically u talking about.?? i think my only major opinion so far is that the thoth wagon seems like lowing hanging fruit.
Couple hours left boo who we gunna lynch together <3
magoroth?
boop!
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/5/2026 at 7:58 AM (post #233)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 1:44 AM (post #220)
VTL: Magoroth
lack of activity
So is the entire basis for lynching him a lack of activity?
why would he get a pass for it when others dont? thoth at least claimed. idk neither are ideal lynches
boop!
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 9:59 AM (post #234)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/5/2026 at 7:58 AM (post #233)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 1:44 AM (post #220)
VTL: Magoroth
lack of activity
So is the entire basis for lynching him a lack of activity?
why would he get a pass for it when others dont? thoth at least claimed. idk neither are ideal lynches
My main concern is not getting enough votes, but I also don't see him as particularly scummy compared to Thoth. Maybe a bit. But lynching inactives is also dangerous for town, especially unclaimed ones. We know Thoth has a role that can hurt or help town and a role that is scummy as hell as well.
"Human kind cannot bear very much reality."
T. S. Eliot
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 9:59 AM (post #234)
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 11/5/2026 at 7:58 AM (post #233)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/5/2026 at 1:44 AM (post #220)
VTL: Magoroth
lack of activity
So is the entire basis for lynching him a lack of activity?
why would he get a pass for it when others dont? thoth at least claimed. idk neither are ideal lynches
I'm not giving him a pass for it, just feels pretty weak, particularly with two claimed negative utility roles.
Just woke up. I guess I'm voting Thoth. Just not a good case to make for anyone else beyond vibes. If it ends up being a mislynch we're getting rid of a role that could've had a lot of negative utility to town anyway.
Bring the fucking like button back to mafia, you fun-killing fascists.
If you're awake, you might as well tell us your character. If you're town, scum will see it tomorrow anyway.
Bring the fucking like button back to mafia, you fun-killing fascists.
Bring the fucking like button back to mafia, you fun-killing fascists.
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