VTL: A-Oberon
If this is town and they really are blackmailed then Ramon is 100% clear. There is a 0% chance scum tries and lynches the person they blame mailed.
Gerard is major sus for protecting them
VTL: A-Oberon
If this is town and they really are blackmailed then Ramon is 100% clear. There is a 0% chance scum tries and lynches the person they blame mailed.
Gerard is major sus for protecting them
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Gonna be hard not to suspect people like Cain, Brand and Llewella for that who have been openly against this and complaining about it the whole time
I do apologize for caring about game integrity
Knowing who people are and judging them based on past behaviors is something done in every game. People wanting to be anonymous and getting deeply offended that they aren’t should indicate that they don’t want town to have an advantage
The issue is this is supposed to be an ANONYMOUS game. The advantage of judging behaviors based on past games and meta is out the window in games like this. That’s part of the challenge.
A-Gerard wrote:
What if we just do what we were doing at first, and just call people by their in game names, but treat them like they are the person we think they are?
Because it's gonna be impossible to not take people's identity into account when reading them, but if you want me to pretend they are their character sure. Was already doing that.
This is another big issue with the strategy. Anyone can basically lie about who they are
A-Gerard wrote:
Gonna be hard not to suspect people like Cain, Brand and Llewella for that who have been openly against this and complaining about it the whole time
I do apologize for caring about game integrity
A-Llewella wrote:
A-Oberon wrote:
Alright boys and girls I just got confirmation that I'm getting modkilled at the end of this DP so can we just treat me like confirmed town
I have a problem with how hard this community angle shoots.
If this is true I will ask the mod to confirm it but holy fuck lets just play a game without going on OOG angleshooty tangents and if this is one lets clear it up with the mod instead of making a mess out of the day phase talking about it.
I agree
A-Gerard wrote:
I say we lynch Fiona. They are not going to get replaced and they seem to have 0 interest in participating. I think they are just lurking and getting away with it.
Agreed. Unless something happens I don’t think I’m moving off
A-Random wrote:
Popcorn claim yourself
Should be more flaring than the sun but I’m Kohai. You gotta be Kohai level retarded if you couldn’t figure out I was Kohai.
A-Random wrote:
Okay what i think we do is this.
Everyone claim who they actually are. If someone refuses. We lynch them.
So much for an anonymous game…
A-Random wrote:
I lowkey wana read kohai as saying 7-3 as a scum slip but I think he's just dumb and seems like he can't count
1. You’re right I’m. A reread and can’t count.
2. I was also under the assumption Juliius is town and there were two town deaths.
Assuming they were townir is actually
9 players
6 town v 3 scum
A-Oberon wrote:
No dude I'm saying there was another NK, but we don't know who it is because his slot got taken over..
On I see.
A-Oberon wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Oberon wrote:
Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..
Description: You are a master of illusion and subterfuge, destroying evidence and wiping out all traces of nefarious activity.
Ability: Sanitize a player at night. If they die that night or during the ensuing day, their role, alignment and last will won’t be revealed. One charge. Renewed up to once if the target does not die.
^^^^
From the Set up thread
Yeah dude I read that, I'm saying there's a combo action here, the illusionist janitored his disguiser buddy..
So you’re saying the only NK was pie?
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Oberon wrote:
Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..
Description: You are a master of illusion and subterfuge, destroying evidence and wiping out all traces of nefarious activity.
Ability: Sanitize a player at night. If they die that night or during the ensuing day, their role, alignment and last will won’t be revealed. One charge. Renewed up to once if the target does not die.
^^^^
From the Set up thread
These mechs are confusing me. So this basically confirms that Julius slot was janitored.
A-Oberon wrote:
Bleys -
Brand -
Caine - vanilla
Deidre -
Fiona -
Gerard - vanilla (his rot13 code was too simple, I'm sure scum already knows this so I'm just going to put it up here..)
Llewella -
Oberon -
Random -
Julian - ???
Flora - vanilla
Martin - banana - vanilla
So far we only have vanilla claims.. Just probabilistically I suspect this game is very vanilla heavy.. There's a jailor, a crier, probably a coroner, and maybe 1 other town role, and that's probably it..
tbh that’s what I’m thinking as well. Lynching VT claims blindly will get us nowhere
A-Oberon wrote:
Nobody killed Julian's player, the slot flipped because it's a disguiser..
Oh I see. Yeah that does make sense
A-Oberon wrote:
You misunderstand me.. See what Mag posted above..
I'm saying the Julian player was scum disguiser.. They have a illusionist scum buddy.. Julian killed someone to take over their account, then had their buddy janitor the flip to conceal the role.. This is the only way it makes sense..
So who killed Julian?
A-Oberon wrote:
Also who the fuck replaced Brand? How can Julian be Supa? Supa is not on the sign up list..
Why was Julian killed any way? They're an an inactive slot thus liable to be mislynched.. The illusionist (basically janitor) role is kind of useless if Coroner exists..
@Magoroth Can disguiser and illusionist use their roles jointly? i.e disguiser takes over someone, illusionist sanitizes the disguiser so the flip is ???..
This would mean the Julian slot was scum..
If the Julian slot was killed then either
1) There’s a third party and they killed him for some reason
2) The mafia NK got blocked
3) Mafia and town vig jointly killed pie
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
There’s a reason why I wanted to do my test game before this one
To skip the mod list, yeah we know ;-)
Lol. The test game wasn’t what I was planning on hosting.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Why did you spam test posts all day phase instead of do anything else? Why only participate at EOD?
Becauae I’m literally trying to build new features and needed to test them.
You understand how it looks that you had time to post, and chose not to really do anything with it til EOD when you voted martin after saying you town read her right?
I understand. I admit I was hyper focused on tbe development that I had failed to properly play d1.
There’s a reason why I wanted to do my test game before this one
A-Gerard wrote:
Why did you spam test posts all day phase instead of do anything else? Why only participate at EOD?
Becauae I’m literally trying to build new features and needed to test them.
there is literally nothing in julian's iso that would scream this is a pr
A-Gerard wrote:
I also think I was left alive because scum hoped I would lead a mislynch on Flora.
Or you're scum?
TBH I was expecting you to die 100%
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine
Yeah. The Julian kill makes zero sense.
Could be PR hunting or based on reads
TMI?
A-Random wrote:
I need to actually spend time looking into this. Really annoyed with the clock. Said it was 3 hours and it just ended. Also why I wanted to go brand first last dp.
Was really struggling with Anna vs pie in the vanilla line up. But both flipping vanilla just seems statistically unlikely. I stuck on this and was debating it for a lot of reasons
Pie died because he was jailkept and executed. So that makes sense. Its possible scum did this but I do think its likely a town jailkeep and execute.
So why Julian.
Yeah. The Julian kill makes zero sense.
VC D1 P#252
Automated Vote Count
This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.
A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Llewella (p#222), A-Bleys (p#232)
A-Llewella (2/7): A-Brand (p#6), A-Caine (p#239)
A-Martin (1/7): A-Flora (p#199)
Not Voting (6): A-Deirdre, A-Fiona, A-Gerard (p#174), A-Julian, A-Martin (p#171), A-Oberon
With 12 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 2 days, 20 hours.
A-Gerard wrote:
I’ll be on in a few hours
Same. Having dinner. Really should get off my phone
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
And pie I never really was convinced you were scum bro. I thought you spent your time poorly last day phase by shoving the mech the entire game instead of putting out reads like what you did here. You tunneled banana. So you’re welcome to laugh but at the end of the day both your fate and Bananas happened because of your own ignorance. We had a good wagon on Brand and he got away with everything because of that whole thing. So hopefully we can avoid this shit show in the future.
If brand is scum and pie let them get away I will have very strong words for him post game
What do you think of Brand?
Thoth was not towny. His predecessor is far more towny than them. I need to re read them ans want to interact with them. They are in my Poe
A-Gerard wrote:
And pie I never really was convinced you were scum bro. I thought you spent your time poorly last day phase by shoving the mech the entire game instead of putting out reads like what you did here. You tunneled banana. So you’re welcome to laugh but at the end of the day both your fate and Bananas happened because of your own ignorance. We had a good wagon on Brand and he got away with everything because of that whole thing. So hopefully we can avoid this shit show in the future.
If brand is scum and pie let them get away I will have very strong words for him post game
I’m gonna have to go through and re read the last day phase but these are my reads. This is kinda where I’m at rn
A-Bleys: Needs to be far more active. A lot of their early stuff I strongly dislike esp the OGI stuff. Don’t like how they disappeared.
A-Brand - This slot is tricky. Their predecessor was not towny at all
A-Fiona: Also needs to actually get in the game and actually post.
A-Gerard: Also need to fully re evaluate. Given how hard it is to ML pie I really doubt a!Gerard will spend the day pushing him. Idk though.
Need to re read when I’m home
A-Deirdre
A-Llewella
A-Oberon
A-Random
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Why shouldn’t we lynch you? You got off Scot free yesterday because of Flora. Why shouldn’t we lynch you today?
you know how pie and I always clash. I’m my biggest mafia wet dream would be MIs lynching Pie on day 1
Sorry that was directed at Fiona but the tag didn’t work
Ah ok. What’s your read on me right now?