Also I don’t exactly know that I would call this 50% of what you displayed last game. I’d venture to say this is more around 15% of what you showed last game lol
Also I don’t exactly know that I would call this 50% of what you displayed last game. I’d venture to say this is more around 15% of what you showed last game lol
Absolutely nothing. But you saw those inner workings and you know me at 50% is still some very real shit. As to if I am town you will never fully trust me. You know better than that. But why would I shove the mech I just did in our recent interaction if I was not? Why would I outline how to trap scum in pools or even explain how they work to begin with as scum? At best put me at 3p again with just that thought.
The only real mech argument in your favor is the one about how everyone should use cryptography to deny the disguised, as that basically nullifies the utility of that role. However if you were scum and knew that the role didn’t exist, all this does it make you look good for pointing it out.
I have now asked you for reads and thoughts on other players quite a few times, and each time you appear to have avoided answering me. Is there a good reason for this? Are you simply undecided? If you are a town player and working towards fulfilling your wincon, which direction do you think is the best one to accomplish an effective day phase?
So far your comments seem to be more reserved as if your waiting to see where the crowd goes before taking any hard stances.
Where do you feel we should focus?
Inactives. It's hard to move forward in the game a considerable amount when there is 2 players who've yet to even post, one of which I know is capable of feigning inactivity due to their usually busy life so they can lurk dp1 which they notoriously have said they don't like. This player has used this strategy in games I have been scum with them in the past, so while it's an option they could be doing that, I think we need to press them to post reads and thoughts.
In the meantime, reads and thoughts from just about everyone would prove useful here in further progressing the day phase in a formidable direction. I am pressing Brand on things I want answers to, and have addressed some issues I have with Flora's tactics that could aid the scum team. At the moment the only other direction we have been presented with is to explore a lynch between the only two claims on the table, which I am not entirely comfortable with prima facie.
So any reads on players you have could prove useful for further scum hunting endeavors. Unfortunately this time there is no mason PM to get a glance at the inner mechanisms of your brain, so I have nothing to read you off of, other than you seem to be admittedly putting the town team at a disadvantage for some loose concept of personal growth. What do you think you have done that should make me reconsider this read on you? Have I missed something significant about your behavior that should prove to me that you are town?
If Rogue Tyiga exists there is almost no reason whoever it is wouldn't just come out and admit they took over a persons account, they could just try to publicly win with town. Kind of doesn't make sense to scum side as this role because the original owner would just come back and say they were the Tyiga target the next dp. The most damage they could do to side with scum is try to get themselves lynched. Which would be a challenging prospect considering we are already aware of potential jester-esque roles, so any play towards self identifying as a scum slip just will look obvious.
Thankyou.
Yup. Sub optimal play. This is the first community I have told people about my self imposed challenges. I got bored of winning a long time ago so they are a thing to push myself.
Self-Growth and challenge is cool and all, but it is a direct detriment to the players your teamed with unless your just scum. To put it bluntly, it's a bit of a selfish play if you are town. No one here knows you enough to read into this type of thing yet.
Can I be real with you? Feel free to ignore my advice. I respect you as a strong player and I am sure you are amazing at this game, but I just don't really see the point to doing challenges here. Rex made a solid point here.
In this context though you are claiming the strategy is for a self challenge, but isn't playing with a relatively new group of players and adjusting to foreign metas already challenge enough? It seems like playing sub-optimally to challenge yourself in this situation is kind of a detriment to the town. I am kind of playing along with it to get really any content I can out of you, but I don't see how retraining thoughts and natural flow of opinions is helpful to your team if you are indeed town. Your commitment to behaving this way therefor feels a bit anti-town, and therefor scummy. If this is just a personality quirk with you we need to adapt to that could be an entirely different thing and we can work around it in similar ways we have worked around other people's playstyles who have interesting quirks, but I don't know you well enough after one game to make that determination.
TL;DR, you are in my scum pool a bit for doing this.
Can you explain Rogue Ty'iga's win condition?
What does temporary mean in this context, IE how long does Tyiga possess the account before it returns to the orginal user?
If my understanding of this role is correct, the only way this person can lose is if the person who killed them or hammered them's team wins is this right?
If this is correct I see no reason why Tyiga would even need to blend in at all.
I have no clue what temporary means in this context but I have asked magoroth.
There is multiple executioner functions.
And all posting a code will do is break disguiser.
Description: A female demon or inhabiting, bodiless spirit born of the primal Chaos, possesssing an unsuspecting Amberite.
Ability: After you die, possess a player during the day. You temporarily take over their account and are able to vote and post from it, but you do not know their role, alignment, or any of their feedback.
Win Condition: You must die; the faction that killed you must then lose. For lynches, this is defined as the faction of the hammer voter.
I would bet money were in a 3/1/town situation for what thats worth. Doubt there is a neutral evil + a neutral benign if there is 3 mafia.
Do you mean 3 scum, 1 TP, 8 town? If so I think thats a pretty logical guess for the setup. Again I would be extremely surprised if there isn't a 3rd party with Mago including 5 potential TP's in the set up. And I would be shocked if he didn't use Tyiga, as that role seems too tempting to resist putting in the game.
Can you explain what you mean by Nuetral evil/benign? Not termonolgy I am familiar with, though I assume your speaking of third party.
Its not just for memes. Can revisit that later.
Oh. Well then. Congratulations lol Sorry
Also tons of executioner functions. Huge hunting implications there
If we can get everyone to commit to the decryption method day one, we can effectively catch a free scum or force them to not use their role if they are executioner or Rogue Ty'iga.
Too many claims in a pool = bullshit. Only so many of each type can exist
Yeah the mod already directly confirmed that the list is a reference to roles that can appear. When I asked he told me that not all roles on the list are included in the game and that external roles not on the list may exist in the game.
Something of greater value- Look at the setup how roles have a category under them. They exist in pools. Something common in other community's but people may not know exists here. Huge mech implications as to how claims function
Any elaboration on this? I noticed that too just didn't really know it was important, but if you are saying thats common from other communities that information could be useful.
Also I am totally gonna call you they/them from now on purely for the memes.
A-Gerard wrote:
Can we get some reads when you wake up? I know its still early in the game, so if you don't have a ton of fleshed out ones that's fine, but as one of the stronger players it would be ideal in helping us crack down a lynch today.
Meant to tag you in this but spelt the name wrong
Given that everyone has thrown anon out the window my challenge this game is low word. No walls and such.
That's fine, what about a few seperate posts then discussing thoughts one sentence at a time? Seems a bit spammy but if your gonna commit to the bit I guess that could be a work around.
Also say you find a really good scum pursuit, how does this strategy help you convince the masses to board that train?
Can we get some reads when you wake up? I know its still early in the game, so if you don't have a ton of fleshed out ones that's fine, but as one of the stronger players it would be ideal in helping us crack down a lynch today.
Don't think it matters to much, if you want to wait til later to post that is fine. Would love some thoughts and reads from you at some point, when your not busy.
Where my night owls at, lets talk reads and figure shit out. Ima be asleep all day tomorrow, I want some interaction before that happens lol
No, your definitely going to Hell. Im retarded. Anyways, I think your attempt at blending is inhibiting your ability to play optimally. I would like to see you crack down and break some skulls here they way I think your capable of.
Don't be a Bully or your going to Hell.
Don't think you'll have much luck policy lynching me, but good luck fam.
I have a feeling someone complained to mago about this. Top candidates for who might have done that would be Llewella, Caine, or Brand I think.
Would prefer that discussion of who is who or what X did in Y game (specifically when said wrt to a player in this game) be kept to a minimum. It kinda defeats the point of anonymity :(
I understand how you feel, but it would be literally impossible to not figure out who people are based on repeated behaviors and posting styles. We can pretend we don't know who each other is, but it is incredibly obvious. Also its impossible for me not to use someone's past tells and behaviors to read them lol. Like for example, if a player I know has a tendency to do something as scum does that thing, and I know they are that player and doing that blatantly scummy thing, am I supposed to just manufacture a reason to lynch them? Part of being town in this game is convincing other people to join your wagon and follow your lead, and if I can't verbalize and substantiate my reasoning for doing so, it becomes difficult to sell a lynch target lol.
I understand where you are coming from. I wanted to do this same idea for a game a while back but ended up nixing the idea for this exact reason. Figured it would basically be pointless with this crew. There might be one or two people who can fool others in this player pool, but the majority of people will just use the same mannerisms, posting styles, and adhere to their same activity schedules, so at that point it becomes kind of obvious.
At the most I can promise really is just trying to stick to calling people by their in game usernames, but I don't really think its possible for me to ignore past analysis regarding games. If that is a deep issue for you I can correct it, but I think it will sway the pace of the game considerably, because I will have to fake why I scum or town read people for the sake of a rule as opposed to having genuine thoughts and reads.
Asked Mago if we could use websites that encrypt and decrypt since they are free use and anyone can use them and he approved
Encryption Type: aes-256-cbc
I'll keep the pass phrase to myself for now, but drop a hint about what it is at some vague point later in this day phase.
U2FsdGVkX1+KRL2qtcJ+506tf
gZ7uNBYs3OzZ9EFna2ObNGWwEASjKJxmai3Os/RVPQM7BvTjyhbzuEf9qURcCA7pm6hn/oU9paxy6NjCo8Kb8Ok2U1DWACgOvhfvlJv
I don't dis-agree, I just don't know how to do one by hand lol
A-Llewella wrote:
Oh, If its a rule break let me know. Its actually very simple but nothing that can be solved
I don't know if it's a rule break and I don't really care, let that be magos job. I was only pointing it out because I do not know how to create one of these for myself unless its Rot-13