VTL: A-Caine
VTL: A-Caine
I’m a bit paranoid about the traitor role. Disguised we can work around it traitor is essentially a tailor
If there is a coroner please check Julian’s body
UNVOTE
A-Fiona wrote:
I think the jailer should out too with a janitor ability in the game. In case he dies and the mafia decides to try and take his claim
lol jailer should absolutely not out
A-Fiona wrote:
Strawberry milk.
You hinting at responsibility for the Julian flip?
A-Random wrote:
Actually thats wrong. Mafia would be motivated not to lynch Oberon.
Caine is prob a town lock and stupid
Like I said earlier if Fiona is scum then caine was probably drawing attention away from that lynch. Probably thought there would be more support for it. Also he unvoted it immediately and is now town blocking Oberon so I’d take town locking him with a grain of salt
A-Random wrote:
I have no idea how no one is even bothered by both the timing and wording of that
"Well boys im being modkilled"
Luna asks about it and then he course corrects. Yes if could be blackmail and bad timing but no one even considering this as an option when it's possible is annoying especially if there is a wincon today.
If I admit that im wrong and everyone wants to townlock Oberon then the next target imo is Caine.
Hes been all over the place and a vt claim.
Id be down for Caine but really don’t want to give Fiona a pass
Who would you be open to lynching today? If outside of the people I tagged who and why?
A-Llewella wrote:
Lets please not hunt for the jailor. That specific role should stay hidden today imo
I am keeping that info to myself like I said. Agree there is 0 reason oust it, but it factors into my read of someone a bit is all.
If someone was black mailed and violated a condition of their black mail, would you tell them they are going to die or would it just happen automatically?
I like Random, Lewella, and am moving them to a town pile for now. I think Random is wrong in his analysis of Oberon but I feel it comes from a Town place and I don’t think they would be drawing attention to the disguised as scum, and themselves. I think he genuinely thinks it is a slip and is tunneling it a bit. I get it but I disagree.
POE is Deidre, brand, Caine, Fiona, Bleys. Oberon too but he self resolves.
Bleys will likely be replaced so we can focus them later. I have a suspect who I think the Jailer is based on what pie said in his obituary but I’ll keep that close to
home for now. I think we lynch between Deidre brand cane and Fiona though and we are bound to hit one scum today. I’d be very surprised based on voting tendencies and participation if all of them are town.
These were the type of posts I was looking for from Llewella all day yesterday. I’m good with town reading them.
It’s like you see two toddlers standing in each others shoulders wearing a trench coat and you have to pretend it’s a real person lol
These rules are so strict and inconsistent that there’s a pretty decent chance I’m gonna be mod killed for something. This shit is wild.
Also the cat has been out of the bag on Caine since like page 1 of dp1 this isn’t new info
Magoroth wrote:
"You saw him as town in solo leveling. Do you agree with me that he played that one really well?"
Is the issue
He could still be anyone lol and you don’t know who I am referring to with that either. Almost the entire player list was in that game.
Magoroth wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
What if we just do what we were doing at first, and just call people by their in game names, but treat them like they are the person we think they are?
Because it's gonna be impossible to not take people's identity into account when reading them, but if you want me to pretend they are their character sure. Was already doing that
That’s fine. Just no shit like “You and I know who X is, why are they acting like this” or something or other.
Can you clarify your answer here then? Because I have no fucking clue what I did wrong lol
Magoroth wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Random wrote:
Caine does seem scummy as fuck but I struggle to everyone understand whether he's playing like shit or he's scum
I mean those are one and the same. But I lowkey think he’s actually a much better town player. You saw him as town in solo leveling. Do you agree with me that he played that one really well?
Slap. Don’t refer to other player’s identities!
I specifically said Caine. You just told me I could operate under the assumption people were other people as long as I role played that they are their current identity. Caine in the other hand literally just dead named pie a couple of times, surprised he didn’t get the slap lol
Pie has such an incredible ability to somehow yank the noose off his neck and wrap it around someone else. I wouldn’t count on him being the d2 yeet
I went into that night phase assuming if I was alive by some miracle, it would be because scum expected me to mislynch Flora lol
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
It’s mostly that vote lol. “I townread Martin but yolo let’s wagon with Flora because he’s scary”
Then he follows it up with
“Of Martin flips town I’m turbo lynching you tomorrow”
If your scum in that situation that is a gold opportunity to get two mislynches by setting up flora for a second one. He probably thought support would carry over for flora today, and that lunch was all but guaranteed. I don’t think he planned for the jailer killing him.
as scum I would never pass on an opportunity to mislynch Pie on d1
I mean I think you would. From your POV you probably thought there would be more criticism of that mislynch then the Martin one, and if the Flora lynch followed it and seemed well justified, then you get the Flora lynch anyway
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Random wrote:
Caine does seem scummy as fuck but I struggle to everyone understand whether he's playing like shit or he's scum
I mean those are one and the same. But I lowkey think he’s actually a much better town player. You saw him as town in solo leveling. Do you agree with me that he played that one really well?
I actually don’t think I played that great. That said my game there was far better than the last several games.
You put a ton of effort into that one and were able to recover from a pretty scummy seeming claim. I never really thought you were scum that game. I felt a lot of thought and analysis went into your decisions
It’s mostly that vote lol. “I townread Martin but yolo let’s wagon with Flora because he’s scary”
Then he follows it up with
“If Martin flips town I’m turbo lynching you tomorrow”
If your scum in that situation that is a gold opportunity to get two mislynches by setting up flora for a second one. He probably thought support would carry over for flora today, and that lynch was all but guaranteed. I don’t think he planned for the jailer killing him.
A-Random wrote:
Caine does seem scummy as fuck but I struggle to everyone understand whether he's playing like shit or he's scum
I mean those are one and the same. But I lowkey think he’s actually a much better town player. You saw him as town in solo leveling. Do you agree with me that he played that one really well?
A-Caine wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Caine immediately jumping on this should also tell you something lol. Dude reeks scum
So your theory is I immediately pounce on the person who’s dying anyway rather than trying for another ML and getting two town deaths?
This wagon gets pressure off of other suspects who are all pretty indictated as scum for various reasons including being on scummy wagons last day phase. If you are scum and any of these are your partners you wanting to direct a lynch elsewhere makes sense.
A-Random wrote:
I want to think on this. But something seems wrong
The only role I can see that does at the end of a day phase is blackmailer victims. Could be that scum jail keeper role but I’m 90% sure the jail keeper is town based on the OP and pies will. And a third party jailkeeper with a town jailkeeper seems a bit wild though theoretically possible.
A-Caine wrote:
Gerard is major sus for protecting them
Kettle, meet pot.
Caine immediately jumping on this should also tell you something lol. Dude reeks scum
Mago just confirmed it. It’s a black mail and he failed it.
Why did he not jack an account last night?