A-Gerard

Do both disguiser and Tyiga work at night or can either of them kill at the end of a day phase? What about black mailer?

A-Gerard

I’m on mobile so can’t really express in full detail why I disagree with you but long story short check out the blackmailer role. Pretty sure that’s what happened. If he’s alive tomorrow I’ll help you lynch him but there’s too much scummy behavior to read into with the wagons yesterday. I feel pretty sure every scum member was on one of Martin or floras wagon. We need to analyze the shit out of that and lynch someone on those wagons. Otherwise the Martin Flors thing was a waste

A-Gerard

I guess I’m not that worried about the crypto thing since it’s easy to pick people changing post styles. At most he’s rogue Tyiga but I’m pretty sure he was black mailed

A-Gerard

I think you reading into it too far. I think they were just being over paranoid. Pretty sure they are hinting that they got black mailed. If they don’t die at the end of the day phase we should consider lynching them tomorrow

A-Gerard


A-Caine wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:
Gonna be hard not to suspect people like Cain, Brand and Llewella for that who have been openly against this and complaining about it the whole time

I do apologize for caring about game integrity

Knowing who people are and judging them based on past behaviors is something done in every game. People wanting to be anonymous and getting deeply offended that they aren’t should indicate that they don’t want town to have an advantage

A-Gerard


Magoroth wrote:

A-Gerard wrote:
Does the interrogator execute their target during the day or night?
Is this question directed at me?

Yeah thought I tagged you mb

A-Gerard


A-Oberon wrote:
Alright it's not technically a modkill, but it is a game mechanic related kill that has a certain amount of mod discretion. Either way I'm dying at the end of the DP.

And don't ask me why I'm dying, I *can't say*. All I can say is that I am a *victim*, and look at the role list, there's only 1 ability that can cause death during the day.

I'll have detailed thoughts later tonight.

So just to be clear you know 100% for a fact you are dead?

A-Gerard

Gonna be hard not to suspect people like Cain, Brand and Llewella for that who have been openly against this and complaining about it the whole time

A-Gerard

What if we just do what we were doing at first, and just call people by their in game names, but treat them like they are the person we think they are?


Because it's gonna be impossible to not take people's identity into account when reading them, but if you want me to pretend they are their character sure. Was already doing that.

A-Gerard


A-Deirdre wrote:
I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.

As someone who was on the Martin wagon, I don’t blame you for sussing anyone on it. Took me a while to come around to his perspective and even he had a light sus on me, apparently because he thought that was buddying. Wouldn’t blame him for that, I’ve done it as scum.

To your credit you had the most substantiated reason for being on the wagon. Even more than Flora IMO

A-Gerard


A-Llewella wrote:
A-Martin (4/7): A-Brand (p#1013), A-Flora (p#970), A-Caine (p#1141), A-Deirdre (p#991)
A-Flora (4/7): A-Gerard (p#649), A-Julian (p#1149), A-Martin (p#774), A-Fiona (p#980)
A-Brand (3/7): A-Random (p#215), A-Bleys (p#232), A-Oberon (p#729)
A-Bleys (1/7): A-Llewella (p#670)

This is our starting place. Screw peoples feelings and gut reads. We should hunt through the trains. 2 confirmed town train flips with a secondary we can dig into reasoning before considering our mech situation that can make follow the leader work.

Wouldn't be surprised if scum were on both mislynch trains. Kind of doesn't make sense for scum to abstain there.

A-Gerard

If someone wants to lie about who they are thats fine. I dont have to town read them for it though.

A-Gerard
I'm fine starting with discussion of everyone on those wagons, though absence from the end of the DP isn't a free pass. I'm willing to give both Random and Oberon some credit for placing their votes elsewhere because both of them were justifying that to the end. I can't give that same credit to you or Bleys.

I am sus of the whole Martin wagon. I give some pass to the pie wagon since I was shoving that pretty hard, but I also expected a scum or two to bandwagon me, so my take was even if pie was a mislynch we could use that wagon. Part of why I am so sus of Fiona. They had the worst reason on that wagon. Being inactive in one thing, they are willfully inactive and non participatory.

A-Gerard


A-Llewella wrote:
Damn. Never seen Mag this pissed and I have known them for many years.

Rules are rules. We should thank them for hosting and get with the program.

I'll never glaze someone for a mod kill sorry. Especially if no one knows wtf that person was mod killed for.

A-Gerard


A-Brand wrote:
I'm here, meant to be on earlier, probably not going to be on for super long since it's been kind of a crazy weekend for me, I'm tired, and I regret signing up for this game a little bit, but I'll participate as much as I can. Responding to a few posts first.
A-Gerard wrote:

A-Brand wrote:
I'm a little busy this afternoon, will be more active later tonight. Three dead already + one of them being janitored is unfortunate. I will say that I largely agree with Pie's final reads list in his will. Going to ask everyone a question in the meantime: why do you think Julian was the NK target?

You got lucky last day phase. Why shouldn’t we lynch you?
If you sus me, that's your prerogative, but I am not the only person here with good reason to sus. Fiona has been scarcely present this game, Bleys has done nothing to impress me (though I'll give him a little leeway for now given what he's already said this DP) and Caine's EoD behavior was very strange imo. Why should I be lynched as opposed to anyone else?

"People are just as scummy as me" isn't a great defense. For all I know they are your scum partners.

A-Gerard

Mod kills need to be taken super seriously. Like if you are going to mod kill someone that swings the balance majorly in the scums direction. So unless Oberon like caught a scum with it or something, it seems extremely stupid to be modkilling players. If town lose this, the default assumption people will have is that this is the mods fault. The fact that it isn't obvious what oberon even did means it wasn't that game impacting. Just my two sense.



A-Gerard


A-Deirdre wrote:
I say we lynch Fiona. They are not going to get replaced and they seem to have 0 interest in participating. I think they are just lurking and getting away with it.

I'm fine with lynching Fiona and if that's the plan, then getting more claims would be a net negative this DP. I'm a little hesitant to just go ahead with a lynch because someone's absent, but Fiona's sudden reappearance at the end of the last DP and sudden vote don't help their case. That being said, I still think it's worth getting what reads we can out of this DP and going from there.

Sure we can make use of the rest of the time in the day phase. But yeah I don't like Fiona's behavior.

A-Gerard

I say we lynch Fiona. They are not going to get replaced and they seem to have 0 interest in participating. I think they are just lurking and getting away with it.