Cool, but what specifically made you change your mind?
previous brand was only being defensive, not offensive. if you read previous brands posts, the only real suggestion they ever made was about a mass claim and they didnt take hard stances on virtully anything else.
You call brand out mildly for fluff posting, but from my POV you've kind of fluffed a bit this day phase as well. At least in terms of short quips here and there and not taking a major stance or doing much of anything until poked or prodded. Would you agree with this sentiment? If so why or why not?
well what do u consider fluff posting, bcuz yes i would disagree that i have been fluff posting. i would admit i might be narrow focused a bit but i dont just post to post.
Why does Caine get town cred simply for claiming VT first when it should be fairly obvious to scum that VT is a role that exists based on the set up thread?
bcuz i am also vt, and being the first to claim vt makes it riskier imo. vt isnt exactly known to be a strong claim, as indicatd by the fact that ppl like flora and oberon are trying to get us lynched. why would mafia put themselves in that situation first?
With flora I am getting the impression that you are only holding back from pursuing them as your main target because you fear the challenge of accomplishing their lynch, am I correct in this?
ya but seems like there is support for it, so lets do it
Your read on Oberon comes off a bit OMGUS-y. It sounds like the only thing holding you back from town reading them is the fact that they are willing to lynch in the Vanillas, which you claim to be. Am I wrong in this?
well i think i would apply the same logic against him if it were someone else and not just me.
VTL: A-Flora
ive done a 180 on brand with the replacmnt , i think they are probly town.
UNVOTE
ill help pressure brand for now
VTL: A-Brand
ok time 4 reads. i only think i know who a few ppl are, not everyone, but ill just read them as their hidden acc since idk who is who
bleys seems a bit scummy, got very defensive against gerard eary in the game, omgus voted him. i think oberon also might be onto something about the slip; why is he saying he doesnt know who anyone is when they earlier said they did? they also seem personally offended by the ogi and guessing at ppls character, im guessing scum probably likes being undercover, so being exposed seems to draw complaints from him. i lean scum.
brand seems over defensive about everything, the crypto stuff and the mass claim stuff, maybe my read on them is bad because it seems like their latest posts are purely defense, but i dont have any way to read this players motives and goals because suggested a clear direction. all this persons posts have been on the fluff side, or just not really effecting the games output so i am leaning scum here as well
caine is kind of null but kind of town, i dont have a bad feeling about them yet. despite the testing posts, they seemed to have solid involvement in the game, shutting down the mass claim thing with logic, and also pursuing activity from lewla and flora. they were the first to claim vanilla, and a few vanillas are common in some games, so i kind of town read that.
deerdre is seeming very town, was one of the only other ppl to post reads, and they seem to be making the most out of their limited time unlike a lot of others.
fiona after being missing for the whole first day just comes in and makes a few posts that havent really said or acomplishd much. we need more from this play so we can scratch beneeth the surface, but for now its null
flora as much as there reputation proceeds them for being "good" seems very intent on lynch the only two claims that have happened at his own request. like both me and cain complied immediately and he still wants to lynch us. this player is a better player than that. but this player knows they can do this without reprcussions, and they said a few times they would do it as either maf or town, so that tells me this player is doing this with negative intentions. they did seem open to looking into brand but outside of that their entire focus has been about lynching vanillas. if i thought it would do anything but waste time i would try to lynch this person, but i know no one will follow me here and it will be a waste of breath. if at any point someone wants to lynch flora tho u have my full support, i think flora is scum
gerard feels town. the activity and frustration with no one posting feels town specficly and the fact that they are pressing and pinging ppl for reads. if he was scum it would be too easy to let the dp fester, and he would have no reason not to wagon with oberon and flora to get the vanillas lynched without reprcution. so the fact they are being open minded makes me think they are town.
julian has a late entry to the game but i like their posts so far, they seem to be catching up and collecting info. a bit of frustration at mechanics and test posts. i think we will get more activity from them later but for now they seem alright. very very slight town.
lewla feels like they are up to something. looking at their iso it seems a bit all over the place. they have been dodgy, and undirected, and the vote for gerard seems omgussy as well as the defensive post where they said gerard was casting shade just for asking them questions. i think this person is scum.
oberon i liked initially but now that they support the lynching of vt's i dont like that at all. calls gerard sus early, but somewhere dropped that read or let it go because they never clarified it or followed up with it. points out a scum slip with bleys and votes them, i need to see more but for now im just a little wierded out by them wanting to lynch vt's so slight scum
random didnt seem to udnerstand why i claimed vt even tho i was pressured by flora to do it, and has tried giving me crap about it a few times. they also back up brand on the mass claim thing which is strange. id say null on them.
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Martin wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Really? If they are just town, its just free mislynches. Kind of dumb. Let's engage our brains and lynch with at least the barest minimum of behavioral analysis please.
ya i kind of want to lynch anyone who just blindly wants to lynch the only two ppl to claim so far
You buddying me just makes me want to scum read you. Stop.
agreeing with u isnt buddying tho
A-Gerard wrote:
Really? If they are just town, its just free mislynches. Kind of dumb. Let's engage our brains and lynch with at least the barest minimum of behavioral analysis please.
ya i kind of want to lynch anyone who just blindly wants to lynch the only two ppl to claim so far
Where my night owls at, lets talk reads and figure shit out. Ima be asleep all day tomorrow, I want some interaction before that happens lol
im not a night owl just have insomnia some nights
Llewella - I think these pseudo-vanilla games make it easier to lurk as scum and avoid posting. The posts this person has made just seem snarky for a bit until fading into no existence because other shit pops up
Martin - I think the passive aggressiveness is what I picked up on last game. It was a tiny push, yet an obvious push. Sort of like seeing what sticks. It didn’t stick on me obviously, but with someone like Llewella, odds are greater if sticks.
huh? i didn't vote them or anything, just pointed out they said something hypocritcl. also if u think im going for an obvious push, but you also list llewlla as scum, is ur theory that we are bussing? bcuz scum reading us for independent things but placing as scum, you have to think that if we are scum together we would be making some sort of play here. idk if these reads are real or faked.
Its passive aggressive, which I got the vibe from you previously
i dont see that post as passive aggressive, just pointing out something hypocritical they said. bcuz it litrly is. makes me wonder why they are calling someone else out for it if they are doing it too ya know
A-Flora wrote:
A-Martin wrote:
i always do...
I thought u were someone else lol oops
oh ok
A-Flora wrote:
A-Martin wrote:
fine lol. u love lynching me.
Why do you take this to mean only you?
u placed ur vote on me lol
A-Gerard wrote:
u seem a bit obsessed with gerard this game, it comes off as a bit defensive from ur interactions
I mentioned you as a town read and now it feels like your buddying me lol. Hmm....
im not buddying you just pointing out that his only contbrbution so far has been to kind of tunnel u and he was defensive earlier too
A-Bleys wrote:
yeah what even is this
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/57/amber-mafia?comment_number=121
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/57/amber-mafia?comment_number=122
bleys dude lets buddy
Yeah Gerard and Brand both seem scummy to me. Brand for the mass claim float, Gerard for the role PM OGI and weird reactions - just seems like scum trying to scumhunt knowing it's safe and will produce nothing.
u seem a bit obsessed with gerard this game, it comes off as a bit defensive from ur interactions
A-Gerard wrote:
A-Martin wrote:
A-Flora wrote:
VTL: A-Martin
idk what u want from me. i was happy enough to comply with u when u asked me to claim, but now ur voting me lol
What's your read on flora?
i am not a fan of his vote for me but i dont really scum read it either. i just came off a scum game so i imagine people will have their guard up around me for a while. i think he would give me a fair shake before lynching me tho
didnt u also wagon
A-Flora wrote:
VTL: A-Martin
idk what u want from me. i was happy enough to comply with u when u asked me to claim, but now ur voting me lol
I dislike Martin jumping in to claim vt. Other one claimed it because of pressure. He didnt have to but given how often he dies for playing like an idiot, I can see him claiming with a little pressure
huh???
also if flora tells you to claim, u claim. resistance is futile.
they said the error happens when u tag ppl
i always do...
fine lol. u love lynching me.
im the same thing as him a VT
UNVOTE
VTL: A-Caine
i got mine at 12:17, in the afternoon
Also I would be willing to bet my hairy ball sack
thats an image i could have done without... ty for that
VTL: A-Brand
