Kohai

If the team ends up being awesome / Rex can I at least get props for being the first one to solve it?

Im not asking for mech reasons why you aren’t scum, but you’re outright refusing address the mech that makes Awesome and REF lean town. Youre saying mech has been wack and therefore its wrong. Youre outright dismissing it. So whats the behavioral reason for why REF and Awesome are scum?

1. Awesome - I can't really get a good read on him or his slot given that his slot is inactive. That said I was scum in the previous game and fake claimed strengthener so that does give me some flash backs.

2. Rex - See here. https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/3q/solo-leveling---dayphase-4?page=27&comment_number=792 + TMI'ing shining as town and this post may tmi banana town https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/3q/solo-leveling---dayphase-4?page=33&comment_number=985

that said rex has a lot of town points in his favor.

What do you think of a rex / awesome team? Awesome fake claiming s trenthener to get a fake inno result on rex. Given how awful the other resulst have been I don't trust any cop result

And what behavioral reason do you have to scumread Banana

Truthfully, when I look at her behavior I find her to be more likely town than scum. The jailkeeper result is damming. I also am not buying her claim.

Evader - once recruited I can target someone and the person I target can’t visit me

Basically this is almost an indirect CC to me. She's basically claiming ot make herself ascetic from me.

Who is Banana’s partner and why?

This is the problem I'm having. I can't find her paired with anyone else in the poe.

Vote Count

banana (2/5) awesome, Kohai

i also asked him

Alyssa tried pushing a CW onto me on day 2

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/3o/solo-leveling---dp2?page=9&comment_number=242

Alyssa knows she’s getting lynched. Why would she try and push a CW onto another wolf?

I just frankly don't agree with removing Mestari by POE as you have, and I'm still a little unclear on what happened with Awesome and REF, so I can't say I agree with how you've gone through this list yet. I don't mind if you want to keep me in your POE as well, but I legitimately cannot see a world in which SJW is on a scum team with Ants.

I don’t see Mestari as being scum especially with Thoth’s open scum slip talking about him being a fear kill. I just don’t see him as scum.

I don’t see banana as being paired with mag1c

I’m just very lost with the overall game state

It could have been a gambit to pull the doc onto magic so they could safely kill Luna

This is honestly a legitimate possibility.

The problem I’m having is that something simply is not computing

Living players

Whiteflame

Kohai

Banana

iLikePie5

Mestari

Awesome

Wryly

MagicMan

Rex

Conf town

pie

if cop accurate

awesome

wryly

Rex

This leaves exactly

Whiteflame

Banana

Mestari

MagicMan

Unless there was massive w/w theatre on d1 Mestari is hard unpaired from Thoth / Alyssa leaving exactly

Whiteflame

Banana

MagicMan

Call me crazy but something isn’t computing

Then again awesome / Rex is still possible if awesome is lying about strengthening and wryly getting the same bad result.

I cannot count the number of times town self destructed after several successful lynches.

I played in a multiball mash where town got pummeled despite lynching correctly the majority of the time. There was so many MIs fires and T/T violence during ita window that town eventually became the uninformed minority and lost.

Whiteflame

Banana

MagicMan

assuming cop results are true this narrowed the pool to 3 people. I’d laugh my fucking ass off if it was whiteflame / Mag1c

I’m around for the next few mins. If you have a result please share

be back later

Sure. Unfortunately, d1 doesn't really give me much info. The Thoth wagon is far more informative.

D1 final Vote Count

Thoth 9/9 - Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Wylted. Kohai, Pie, Banana, Helz

Shining 3/9 - Wryly, Casey_Risk

Whiteflame 1/9 - Thoth

There were several people not voting: wf, mag1c, awesome (max).

Beavhiorally and mechanically I have a very strong TR on wryly. I need to re-read d1. Question is how many scum are bussing thoth here. One of the key questions I ask myself when going back is why a player voted another player. IMO that's far more informative than anything.

Which one?

P1023 feels tmi

If she’s scum, I’d probably guess Awesome.

If she’s town, I’m probably dead tonight and I’d say it’s in Awesome, Kohai, REF

Do you think ref may have had tmi on the flip?

Help me solve this game. Where are you at right now with banana? If she’s scum who is her partner? If she is town where do you go from there?

You around?

Question is if all 3 scum are bussing Thoth here

Day 1 VCA

Vote Count

Thoth 9/9 - Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Wylted. Kohai, Pie, Banana, Helz

Shining 3/9 - Wryly, Casey_Risk, Helz,

Whiteflame 1/9 - Thoth

The question is if Thoth is doing a classic rule of 3.

The big question mark for me is whiteflame. Thoth was thrashing whiteflame hard when he was lynched and urged us to turbo lunch whiteflame the next day. Unless there’s massive WIFOM w/w theatre going on I don’t think whiteflame would allow Thoth to draw that much attention to him if he was his partner.

Interesting to note Thoth’s read list before death

From most to least townie:

Town-confirmed: Lunatic, wylted

Solid town: Banana, Wryly

Lean town: Mestari, Alyssa, Mag1c

Null: Vader

Lean scum: Pie, Kohai (I still don't buy his claim)

Strong scum: whiteflame, Casey

Likely 3P: Helz, Rex (if not 3P, then Rex is lean town and Helz is solid town)

Not included due to inactivity: Airmax and Shinine

Final Vote Count:

Shining (7/7) - Banana, Whiteflame, Mestari, Mag1c, Kohai, REF, Pie

Banana (2/7) - Awesome, Shining

Given whiteflame is scum 90% of the time I’m always shocked when he flips town.

Vote Count

banana (2/5) awesome, Kohai