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Well let me ask you this, What does it change to prove my alignment for me to claim how my protective function works? Its a protective function. Obviously there is advantage to that staying hidden.


1. Hold up are you a protective or investigative role? I’m confused as this blatantly contradicts your tracker claim


2. There’s an advantage to stay hidden but not if you can clear yourself right before being lynched and costing town a valuable PR.


Side rant: I’ve seen so many town PRs in open setups that got lynched because they didn’t claim and many times town went on to lose

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Each player has a duty to try to read and figure out other players.
Also each player has a duty to try to allow others to read them.


Again that’s what we’ve been doing. That’s how Thoth and Alyssa were caught and how shinning was caught.


Every game I have always played the correct move before a lynch is to ask for a full claim

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I may add Thoth and Alyssa were caught well before they claimed. Their claim only tightened the noose around their necks.

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Yeah, I dislike when flavor relates to AI stuff. Puts advantage to people that know the source material in a rather unfair way.


Fair. And as I said I really dislike flavor claiming as well, but unfortunately it is part of our meta and I doubt it’ll change any time soon.

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Fair. Part of our meta is that every game has a theme, every character has a role, and every character has a justification for why they have that role.


Many sites like MU on theme game like this would ban flavor claiming. As much as I hate flavor claiming it is part of our meta. It adds a demotion of play to scum as they need to think of fake claims. It also makes creating games more difficult because you don’t want to create a game that can be solved on d1 via mass claim.

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My justification is as a moderator I have endured countless complaints, reports, criticisms, and pressure. I have heard and seen everything and nothing affects me. Even when you call me a retard

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Even if Mikal came out and said he mod confirmed Helz on accident, the right play for the integrity of the game would still be to lynch Helz.


Agree with this.


1. Helz was always going to be the lynch

2. Helz still needs to be resolved

3. We shouldn’t read too much into the mod communication esp if Helz is just 3p. I think their claim is BS and is probably just 3p

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VTL Helz


Sheeping daddy pie. Baa baaa


Vote Count


Helz (4/7) Mestari, Rex, Pie, Mag1c

Shining (2/7) Helz, Vader

Awesome (1/7) Shining





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Since the cop and doc are already outted, let's mass claim. I've softed multiple times so I'll go last.



Agree. Time for mass claim

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1- How is Pie confirmed town now. Nobody counter claimed and they said they have people? Greaat.


He claimed guild leader which is mechanically lock town. He claimed Wylted was fake claiming on his behalf to bait the NK


That said if he’s lying Wylted’s flip will expose that tomorrow. This would be major FPS on his part