Kohai

I will say I agree with what helz said at the end of yesterday. We should not rush this day phase

The mistake happened during the day. It's tax season. Daddy Pie is busy. But I'm sure as soon as he got home from work, he took his belt off and went to town on Thoth and Alyssa in the scum chat. But by then the damage was already done and there was nothing to do but bus at that point. Judging from the flip, Alyssa's death wasn't even much of a tragedy for scum and had a silver lining.

Maybe. If I were w!Pie I'd be rage quitting with how bad these wolves butchered their claims.

That said I don't disagree that parts of pie's play is scummy. I just don't see w!Pie allowing these two retards to claim the way they did.

Can you elaborate?

I kinda want to town lock pie. Mikal literally handed the scum fake claims and they badly butchered their fake claim. I doubt w!Pie would allow them to make such attrocious mistakes.

Why pie?

Vote count

Awesome5000 (1/8): Kohai

Kohai (1/8): Wylted

Pie (1/8): Rex

Lol your tunnel on me is quite adorable. Unfortunately, I am town.

If anyone is quesitoning my alignment take a look at my claim vs the other two fake claims and ask if ascetic is really a fake claim mikal would give

Vote count

Awesome5000 (1/8): Kohai

Kohai (1/8): Wylted

Anyone down to do a mass character claim?

Royal Legacy - Upon your death, the king comes

I'm assuming this is some type of lost wolf / recruit mechanic?

VTL Awesome5000

You need to live up to your name and start being awesome. Start solving and start giving us some content.

Vote count

Awesome5000 (1/8): Kohai

just curious why you would choose to heal mag1c over protecting one of the confirmed town guild leaders

Dead

Thoth- Red Ant- Roleblocker (Lynched dp1)

Alyssa

Poison - convert the factional nk into a poison ability that kills someone the following night.

Durable - It takes one additional vote to lynch you. Upon the lynch, the vote count is reset and consumed

Crushing Strength - Target a player and that player cannot be protected

Royal Legacy - Upon your death, the king comes

Lunatic - Baek Yoonho - Leader of the White Tiger Guild, you are driven by instinct and strength. During Jeju you took command of the front line and help lead the hunters into battle. You are fiercely loyal and fiercly strong. Your senses are on another level. You win with the town. But foremost you win with the white tiger guild.

Claims list

Lunatic- Baek Yoonho- ??? - Guild leader- recruited helz, rex np0. helz declined (Post 25, dp1)

Wylted- Choi Jong-in- ???- Guild leader Recuited lunatic and one other np0. (Post 77, dp1)

Helz- Yoo Jinho- ??? (Post 574, dp1)

Kohai- Kohai - Ascetic (Post 197, dp1)

Alyssa- Go Gunhee- Widely admired, Rally The Hunters (Post 14, dp2)

Vader - min byung gyu - doctor

Unclaimed

Whiteflame

Banana

iLikePie5

Mag1cMan (Poisoned np1)

Wryly

RexFavilla

Awesome5000

Casey_Risk

Mestari

Shining

so it looks like the theme split is definitely ants vs humans.

anyway does anyone have any useful results?

Wow how reatrded are thees wolves?

Not cool

The more I actually really think about this the more I kinda want to hard clear pie wrt claiming. No way would he let pie and Alyssa butcher these claims.

Either

1. Mikal gave scum shitty fake claims

2. Scum is a bunch of retards and completely butchered their claim

You’d be psycho to think I’d let Thoth claim what he did

You know what’s extra retarded about this? Mikal handed them fake claims. They didn’t even have to think of it. The fact Thoth and Alyssa so badly bungled their claim is mind boggling.

I’m ok with that. I’ve literally nothing to add to the conversation other than repeating what I and others have said.

Gn and gl.

Don’t have anything to add. I think we’ve milled this DP out long enough. I’m ok with hammer

If I was right about pie after so many people told me to drop my push on him I might retire from debatecraft mafia.

+1

Anyway not much has changed. I’m signing off soon for the last 2 days of Passover. My vote is parked. Gn gl

Yeah. I think we are dealing with 1x popular lynch proof mafia. Their claim doesn’t match up

I still want you to give us something. Can you at least character claim?

yeah I can’t count the amount of times I have seen town self vote on MU.

now that you are here can you claim or at least sort?

now mafia can try and fake claim something like cop, but as more people claim, eventually town realizes there's too many investigatives to be true. at which point it goes back to behavior. and furthermore CCs can happen.

This. And half of our game solves are because mafia’s claims are blatantly obvious like Thoth.

Why helz?

I’m fine getting claims from Awesome, Shining, and Casey

Agreed

To expand on the airmax slot being scum. Part of it is mod psych, but I won't get into that. Part of it is Alyssa's defense of Thoth, assuming she is scum. Alyssa is too good to defend an obviously caught scummate, especially so desperately. I think scum!Alyssa only acts the way she did if she feels she has to. That indicates desperation. Going from 4 mafia to 3 DP1 is not cause for desperation. But if your team is inactive, or worse, mia? That calls for desperation and trying to save the ones who are still contributing. Savvy?

Why mod psyche? I agree though. They were subbed in by awesome and they haven't been awesome (pun intended) yet

Vote Count 

Alyssa 6/9 - wylted, luna,, shining , alyssa, kohai, Vader

Awesome 1/9 - helz