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Which could easily be built into the game as punishment for Jinwoo becoming a winsteal 3P. #926 at least implies that Jinwoo chose to change his wincon after starting as Town.


Which would be bastard level modding as it would be completely unfun to play as.

Kohai

The problem is if one of those 3 is a 3p this makes it incredibly unfair and nearly impossible for the 3p to win.

Kohai
Right? It's like he slapped together the Dreamer and Informed role, and it doesn't even make sense thematically.


Also in world where Thoth is truthful and Jin-woo is a neutral 3p role this makes it significantly harder for the 3p to win

Kohai

Also I’ll add to my defense that Mikal gave scum fake claims. Do you really think Mikal would give ascetic as a fake claim?

Kohai

In my defense if I was scum and needed to get into a guild ascetic is not what I’d claim as this doesn’t help the guild activate a useful PR. If anything it is best if I stay outside a guild where I can be at least confirmed by an investigative role.


claiming ascetic tells the guild who not to recruit

Kohai
Well, this one just doesn't help your case at all. Informed is unconfirmable, the list could be drawn randomly, and it doesn't make sense for your character. Why would you be unsure who Jin-woo is? You're his sister. It's not like he has any history of hiding from his sister in the show.


Also I’d say in all the times I’ve seen an informed town role I have never seen it come with a list of names. The only time I’ve ever seen it come with a name is to confirm that person is aligned with town. Not giving a 3 narrow list of people who may be a particular character

Kohai

Vote count


Thoth 6/9 - Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Wylted. Kohai <-- L3

Shining 6/9 - Wryly, Casey_Risk, Helz, Thoth, Magicman <-- L4

Kohai 1/9 - ILikePie5


Kohai
If Jin-woo is a third party that doesn't joint win with town, they have every reason to deny being Jin-woo.


This is actually a good point if all of them deny being Jin-woo and he comes out as being informed we have a strong POE that we can look into.



Kohai

I can buy informed town as this is easily fact check able if none of them claim Jinwoo then we turbo lynch Thoth. But I fail to see them going together

Kohai

Explain how being a nurse and informed town go together? Like why would a nurse know this? I don’t quote buy this. At least we can verify the informed town claim.


are any of you Jinwoo? Yes or no.

Kohai

alright I"m gonna bow out for the night. In case i don't return by the end of the day I'm going back to Thoth as he's my top lynch target. I think the shining CW is a gold mine to analyze especially in a w!Thoth world


VTL THOTH


Vote count


Thoth 6/9 - Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Wylted. Kohai <-- L3

Shining 6/9 - Wryly, Casey_Risk, Helz, Thoth, Magicman <-- L4

Kohai 1/9 - ILikePie5



Kohai
For my part, I just thought you had a valid point that Shining's lack of opinion on Thoth seemed suspicious, and he was worth pressuring.


Agreed. I do think the shinning wagon is good.

Kohai
shining Wagon makes sense. Dude hasn’t helped progress the day phase at all and has been extremely lazy: This isn’t out of character for him but it prevents a problem for trying to read his slot.


Agreed. Plus I don't buy someone not having thoughts on thoth while claiming to scum read pie.

Kohai

For the full record: I would much rather lynch Thoth today over shinning. That said, I don't want to end the day without getting shinning's full claim and I want to force him to give thoughts on thoth.


Also FTR I don't buy Thoth's claim. I also want to go on record notiing that I started both the thoth and shinning wagons

Kohai
I mentioned one a few times already being Alyssa, but if he is scum this will open up quite a few options based on people who have either defended him or shown hesitation in lynching him throughout the day phase. I plan on investigating these people thoroughly next day phase if that is the case.


Fair. What do you think of shinning not having any thoughts on him? Also do you have thoughts on how fast the shinning wagon grew?

Kohai

Vote count


Shining 6/9 - Kohai, Wryly, Casey_Risk, Helz, Thoth, Magicman <-- L3

Thoth 5/9 - Mestari, Lunatic, Alyssa, Rex, Wylted <-- L4

Kohai 1/9 - ILikePie5




Kohai

It'sl iterally the exact same claim except elaborating on why nothing gets past me as a moderator. I didn't want to make it sound too much like I was just copying and pasting my role pm.

Kohai

I just answered. I also will say the vast majority of my posts have been mobile posting which makes things more difficult

Kohai
What about "as a moderator nothing gets past me" fits with Ascetic exactly? Wouldn't that be a better justification for Cop or Lie Detector or Roleblocker or something?


I poorly rephrased my role PM. I will try rephrasing it again


During my time as a moderator I''ve endured countless criticism, complaints, reports, name calling etc. and nothing seems to affect me. That's the justification for being ascetic once recrutied

Kohai

Building a Box


Living Players


Wylted

Alysa

WF

Helz

Luna

Banana

David

Pie

Mharm

Wyrly

Skep

Thoth

Supa

Max

Casey Risk

Mestari

Shining


Confirmed Town

Wylted

Lunatic


Solid town

Mag1c

Pie

Helz

Wyrly


Scum

Shinning

Thoth


Null


WF

Banana


Null / Unsure


Skep

Supa

Max

Casey Risk

Mestari


Kohai

Any thoughts on how fast the shinning wagon grew?


Also what are your thoughts on shinning putting you as scum lean but have no thoughts on Thoth, who was the center of discussion almost the entire day phase

Kohai
This Shining wagon is a gold mine. This is why we don’t end DPs super early folks


Agreed. I will say I just left synagogue and was not expecting the shinning wagon to pick up as much steam as it did. But we finally have a proper wagon and CW to analyze.