Kohai

Think this post by vader could be TMI:

It also seems like there are 2 forms of contracts being offered. I’m curious about how people got 2 different items but seemingly everyone got something. Weird

It depends on the recruitment mechanic. It sounds custom. Based on how that works, it will give more information

Rex's role card will give us tons of info.

Why whiteflame over vader for recruit?

Agreed

I doubt we will get much more out of this day phase. Is there anything we want to discuss before the day ends?

Vote Count

RexFavilla (2/3) | Vader, Kohai <-- L1

Kohai (1/3) | RexFavilla

Not voting: whiteflame, ILikePie5

The issue though is why REF + Vader/WF would vote Wryly in the first place. Because a Pie lynch there wins them the game. 4-2-1 becomes 2-2-1. At the same time, I think this is a red herring in the sense that it doesn’t matter WHY they voted Wryly over me. The point is all 3 did.

It's plausible that they thought I was the third party which would explain why Rex has been so fixiated on lynching me.

REF doesn’t have to execute the NK. In fact, it was the recruit that did yesterday and today based on the OP

Fair. Actually I asked the mod for clarification that the role stopper would not actually stop the night kill so taht point is moot.

Anyone around?

Claiming that he'd redirected a couple of you would have just invited more questions as to why he did it. Frankly, I'm still surprised he's never used it to at least confirm my role. I'm also unclear on whether he even has another shot of his Redirector since he said he doesn't have anymore shots left in post #20.

This is what's bothering me as well. Also with rex being conf scum why not redirect the kill onto pie so there won't be a night kill? Pie is BP and we wouldn't have had a NK.

VTL Rex

Rex himself admitted to accepting the contract. I think scum probably hid with the folks who said they accepted. This is why I'm thinking vader is a strong possibility

WF. I have a behavioral reason as well

I'm leaning towards WF as well. However, I went back through day 2 and vader admitted to accepting the contract:

Also, I asked if the contract went through, would my original NP action been voided. Thoth replied to this yes, but since it failed, I got my original ability. Which maybe would be the reason there isn’t a NK but I don’t want to jump to that conclusion just yet

That is the big issue that's bothering me. Assuming everyone was honest about if they accepted the contract vader is the only one left who could be scum.

Who do you think is the more likely recruit: whiteflame or vader?

I’m heading to sleep also. Got a lot to review

The problem is scum knew who their target was and not who necessarily got the role.

Yes, I was thinking about this. This is my only source of hesitation at the moment

Why didn’t ref vote for you?

That’s what I’m confused about as well.

Unvote

I want more time to discuss and prevent an early hammer

I’m just sticking with my gut: Rex and Whiteflame

they both had ample opportunity even to be on the wagon and not necessarily to hammer.

Point is scum must have known lynching castin is higher priority than lynching pie unless pie is scum.

Rex was online and voted #412. If you think Vader is scum then Why didn’ Rex vote Pie here? Even if he wasn’t around to change his vote there’s still a strong probability of a mislynch

Scenarios from most to least likely

1) It’s literally just Rex and whiteflame

2) It’s Vader and he is using the ability as a way to bus

3) It’s pie all along. He knew Vader was the target and trod to get him lynched. He knew his original role and was confident enough to counter claim.

If Vader is scum why didn’t he switch to pie

Final Vote Count

Wryly (4/4) | ILikePie5, Vader, RexFavilla, whiteflame

ILikePie5 (3/4) | Wryly, Mag1cman, Kohai

If pie is town then both scum were on the wryly wagon. This strongly points to scum knowing she has to be killed and was a priority over getting a mislynch

Alternatively: It could be pie and Rex. This is tin foil but this explains why scum wouldn’t hammer pie and also explains pie trying to get Vader lynched earlier in the day phase.

this game is driving me insane

Also Rex could have also have switched to pie and he didn’t. So that doesn’t necessarily prove you town.

if you somehow knew she was a 3p survivor hammering her makes the most sense as you would need to waste a NK on her

Plausible.

I’ll wait to hear pie’s thoughts.

Unless pie counter claims he’s lock town.

A random town person got an action last night. Since you’re not CC’ing unless pie CC’s then it’s obvious Vader is confirmed scum.

As for the second scum, it comes down to Vader for me at this point. Claiming he used the Role Cop on Rex is pushing the bus pretty hard, but makes a lot of sense when it was already obvious that Rex was scum. He clearly came into this DP knowing that much, as did his partner. Scum killed Mharman, so they could just have eliminated the Role Cop target and Vader just claimed it to push my lynch next DP.

LOL

Are you CC’ing Vader?