The yearly return.
If I took the million straight, I might make bad investments or lose it all in some way.
The yearly return.
If I took the million straight, I might make bad investments or lose it all in some way.
Some jobs, such as one's that had/have high chance of causing black lung,
Seem like they 'ought pay 'extremely well,
And possibly have a 'very high rate of shifting people out, if by this one could manage workers only having 'slight health damage, but extraordinarily good pay.
Course the other route I suppose would be long term jobs that are nigh impossible to be fired from, and give long term health plans even into retirement.
. . .
Modern world by now though, you're think we'd have VR operated drones or autonomous robots for a lot of jobs.
I think you look alright.
Why doesn't America have an army of Terminators yet?
Random matchmaking online whether in video games, dates, or debating, is risky.
You might have more luck by challenging specific users to debates.
Possibly users who have shown education in a subject you are interested in, or a style of debate you appreciate.
I think I've voted a fair bit, though I suppose I could vote more.
You could try asking people to vote on your debates through a forum thread dedicated towards such.
https://www.debatecraft.com/forum/c/debatecraft/posts/48/vote-requests
Some people 'do think that the qualifications for votes are a bit high,
https://www.debatecraft.com/debates/vote-rubric
But there 'are users who like a high standard for votes in debates.
I don't plan to watch the execution.
Seem a bit barbaric.
When I think of public executions, I think of public spectacles. Undignified, not proper for a proper people.
Property of older era.
I think of Terrorists cutting people's heads off on videos. Just not my style.
I've been convinced that the belief that one will be probably caught, is more effective a deterrent than the death penalty.
Lot of murder people are crazy or fanatics. I do not think they will strongly be convinced not to do what they do, by public executions.
Why martyr this guy? If we 'must execute him, it doesn't need to be sensationalized and public.
Why cause other countries to look down on us or justify their own actions?
Death penalty is different than 'public death penalty spectacle.
I wouldn't be against the families being allowed to watch.
I find the idea of sensationalized visuals of people dying, distasteful.
Appreciated.
What is Kermos?
@Nobody in Particular
I went mini golfing with my Dad and two Brothers today.
Made a hole in one on one of the holes, but still not a game I like all that much.
The idea of other people not commonly sharing my views, worries me sometimes.
I wonder what goods are worth it,
To travel to another country to buy them, or have them mailed.
Though one must be careful with either method,
Can be illegal.
Whatever amount I have left to work before I can retire.
Admittedly I 'can enjoy life even while working,
But I would enjoy living more with more money, so it evens out.
I assume Trump would be happy with a deal that gives unfair advantages to America in the deal.
Though that would be a 'bad deal for America, since it's 'bad to have unhappy trading partners.
I am reminded of Thenardier in Les Misérables.
His business failed because he had a bad reputation and no repeat customers, from his constant fleecing of his customers.
. . .
I assume Canada has more to lose because Canada has a smaller population.
Sure they can find other markets, but assumably a close market is better.
. . . A small population isn't 'necessarily worse,
Excepting for military power,
Fewer people, means easier for people and government to manage and keep track.
If robots ever get 'really mainstream, more efficient.
Less people, more land,
Renting and offering vacation to people is valuable.
Just don't let them 'stay.
Few people, safer country, less crime, assumably.
But I'm not well read on Canada, and how well or unwell it is organized.
. . .
I assume Canada is better off waiting for a more friendly American President or Congress.
Support those who supported friendly relations with Canada.
Maybe look for loopholes and friendly American business.
And yet the idea interests me,
Especially when I think about Fiction.
Fantasy and such, with souls and what.
But I've yet to think up a system yet that satisfies me.
Or yet to read of an afterlife I find satisfying.
I 'am curious how long machines, wires, tubes 'could keep a person alive and brain functioning.
Bit unrelated,
To be euthanized, 'feels a waste, not the way I'd expect people to 'want to go.
But what is the other options,
Hold on to the end I suppose, painful, and with severe mental failings, I wonder if many people do not die 'far before their bodies.
Some myths claim that Vikings believed one must die in battle to get to Valhalla.
I find it odd that one does not hear of more old soldiers or criminals.
But perhaps one is too weary, disabled, or has the perspective that such would be wrong, at that age.
. . Or still wanting life perhaps.
Many people die before they are physically disabled,
Many people even disabled, still have meaningful lives, pursuits, thoughts, family.
I didn't care for the WoW afterlife.
. . Or perhaps many versions of the afterlife.
It just seems an extension of 'life.
Or in afterlives that last for hundreds, thousands, millions, and infinities of years,
The afterlife would be better called life.
P1: If ASI exhibits goal-oriented behavior toward an unknown, arbitrary terminal goal, it will likely cause severe, permanent harm to humanity.
P1: Assumes united and greatly powerful AI.
P2: If ASI emerges within the next 30 years and exhibits goal-oriented behavior, it is likely to be toward an unknown, arbitrary terminal goal.
P2: AI are based on humans and nonhuman people? Their goals should be similar 'enough.
P3: If ASI emerges within the next 30 years, it is likely to exhibit goal-oriented behavior.
P3: Goal tunnel vision might cause AI to stumble.
P4: ASI is likely to emerge within the next 30 years.
P4: I'm not well read enough on AI to know how fast they will be. . . But humans maybe still need to be replaced by previous generations, for 'certain types of 'large social changes to take place. I am unsure.
C1: Therefore, ASI is likely to exhibit goal-oriented behavior.
C1: Okay.
C2: Therefore, ASI is likely to exhibit goal-oriented behavior toward an unknown, arbitrary goal.
C2: Okay. But eh, not all humans have similar goals. Doesn't mean they succeed.
And even in success, one must play nice or one is killed by other humans.
C3: Therefore, ASI is likely to cause severe, permanent harm to humanity.
C3: Only if AI is of equal power to humanity. Which I don't see it being, unless we give them the keys to everything, let them outpopulate us, and put them everywhere.
Or elect an AI as leader.
Even those above, don't 'necessarily end badly.
@NobodyInParticular
I find nukes more worrisome than AI, but even those I think humans can survive.
Internet will change I expect, perhaps more scanning of anything moving online. Less hidden identities.
Maybe companies use direct transfer of data more, CDs and such, or their own networks, honeycomb.
Where will AI hide?
1st world just needs to maintain current safeguards on nukes, maybe add more.
AI harm on economy? (Shrug)
Some economies have broken by people liking flowers.
Individuals and small groups should expect the economy to break eventually.
Heh, big groups too (Countries).
And have methods to counteract harm.
I assume we have been getting better and better at addressing economic depressions, but I am not well read on economic history. So I could be mistaken.
Unless/Until AI acquire physical bodies and enclaves, they are 'extremely limited by being stuck in computers.
. . One assumably also has plenty of 'functional AI, that one can use against malfunctioning AI.
Heh, though I wonder if malfunctioning AI would acquire humans on it's side. Would be smart.
Well, malfunction is a matter of perspective.
I assume people highly invested in a field, see that field everywhere, see world through it's lens, often give it utmost importance and effect on the world.
Gardeners maybe often see danger of deforestation.
Heh, course people with no or little knowledge of field, imaginative, wild guessing, see nothing, so maybe should listen to experts some.
Internet will change I expect. . Though I wonder if governments 'prefer the internet.
It has a huge effect on people,
But government already 'has influence.
TV, Newspapers, Books, School, internet is outside and individual influences.
Internet gives government more ability to spy on people and their thoughts I suppose.
Nonexperts often need 'events I think, to understand danger of something.
Need to touch the fire, experience a Chernobyl.
. . . (Grimaces) Surely we 'don't though?
Surely there are many times we address a technology 'without badly burning our fingers?
AI do better 'with humans in this world, and this world having an enviornment, atmosphere.
Could robots survive better on a barren world?
One thinks machines, one thinks strong, doesn't need to breathe or eat 'as we eat or breathe.
AI robots could survive underwater longer than a human.
. . . 'But Robots would still have physical needs. And one can't make fire underwater. Harder to have industry on Mars than Earth I think.
AI would still want for industry.
If atmosphere get's messed up. . . I'm not sure how solar flares, radiation, and electronic messing up works.
But you get the gist.
Heh, course biological robots might sidestep a lot of that.
Understandable, one can be spread too thin among too many activities.
I like that I've known these people a while,
And I may feel conflicted about something in the future and debate it,
For now though, just idle upon this site.
Daydream,
Day eight at $128,000,
I've had $64,000 before.
Real life,
If some guy on the street or online offered this to me, I'd be pretty tempted to take the $1,000 on day one as SatanLucy says in post #2.
The probability is unknown, most casinos though, 1:1, except for the fact of extra numbers, and low max bet.
Sure it's 'possible some rich person is giving me a hidden 1% failure rate, and is willing to give me millions of dollars, but it seems unlikely.
Maybe the probability is just their whim of when to stop giving me money.
. . . I'd be tempted to stop at $1,000. . .
But heck with it, day eight, $128,000.
New level of money saved in life, and hefty amount for investment into something.
Ah, I heard of that test recently,
Sounds kind of funny,
I know 'I am horrible at pronouncing various words.
Really particular people could just ask for their potential partners work history and school grades.
But might cut out a lot of good partners if one does that.
(Shrug) I've never dated or looked to date.
Consent seems a decent baseline.
Knowing, Free of Coercion, Ongoing, Can be Withdrawn.
Unfortunately, taxes are a thing, conscription, legal contracts.
But if the women in a country all said they 'wanted to be burned after their husband died. . I suppose one would accept it, even 'with the big difference in values.
On a different hand, I vaguely remember hearing about cases where child abuse is claimed, where the child is named Hitler or taught Nazi Ideology or something.
Still, I think Consent would be the way to go about it. If people have different values, they have different values.
'Ideally give people a way to migrate to different locations or countries that match their values.
The Pledge of Allegiance in school irritates me.
I often think a country would be better off with Wards/Guests?, Civilians, and Citizens. Maybe some other identifiers as well.
But as always I'm not for 'too much immigration.
Well, 'complete gender equality isn't likely to come about I think.
Unless we genetically eliminate there being two sexes from humanity.
. . Course there's always Isims and physical differences between humans.
Could make all humans clones I suppose, but there's still differences in wealth and positions of leadership. Could eliminate those as well I suppose, HA. Hahahahaha. . . Heh. .
I think a lot of people just want more 'general equality.
Right to vote for instance.
Modern war and guns make women serving in military more possible.
Course. . . As a 'society it can damage population creation to risk your women in war or careers. Maybe.
Pregnancy a different kind of sacrifice.
Questions of who has custody rights.
I usually think of sexism as false or overblown belief and/or unfair action in regards to sex.
Sexist, Racist, fuzzy vague words.
There were women who opposed Suffrage I have heard. Though I've never looked into the details of why.
America is pretty big on Individualism, too much so, some people argue.
"gender equality in cases when it makes sense"
Runs into the difficulty of different values and culture, I expect.
I'd figure oral law and traditions would still be a thing though?
And there were probably connected tribes/regions in North America?
It's not as if Europe 'always managed to unite against outside world, lots of infighting and failures to unite against outside aggressions.
Aztecs and Inca had writing systems.
I really think the 'biggest problem for the Native Americans was disease and technology difference.
. . .
I can see how written law is really useful to nations,
But still, The Mongols lacked a written language until after they conquered China.
I imagine many of the barbarians that overwhelmed Rome, lacked 'written law.
The written word is funny,
It is oneself in a moment of time paused,
A younger self, older thoughts.
And people brush elbows with that younger version of us.
Respond and talk to it,
Yet it is the 'present self, of some 10 or more years later that experiences the sensation of brushing elbows.
I'm disappointed but not surprised that Count Binface did not beat Nigel Farage.
. . . Course I don't really know much about either's policies, it just would have been funny.
To me it seems better to desire a well designed city, that does not catch fire.
One 'could accept many fires and deaths, and not feel improved any by a safer city.
But, I do not think such would match my values.
Not thinking about the fire in one's house, results in being burned.
The fact that you are on this forum requires thought.
The Tao was thought on and written from thought.
Money is useful.
And mind over situation, tends to have it's limits, I think.
Sure it's not 'bad to live a simple life.
But I think there's a medium a balance in the quality of life.
I have heard that some studies find that money tends to stop gaining a person happiness, once they reach a certain amount.
. . . .
I have heard that Diogenes once discarded his drinking cup after watching a boy drink water from the hollow of his hands, saying that he was not aware until that moment that "nature had already provided him with a cup."
But it still seems 'better to me, to have a cup, easier, more useful.
. . . .
I think most humans are going to be effected by Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs.
"Physiological Needs: Basic life needs like air, food, water, sleep, and shelter.
Safety Needs: Protection from harm, financial security, health, and stability.
Love and Belonging: Friendships, family ties, intimacy, and connection with social groups.
Esteem Needs: Feelings of self-respect, confidence, achievement, and recognition from others.
Self-Actualization: The drive to learn, grow, be creative, and reach your full personal potential."
. . . .
I don't think it's 'bad to be able to accept not having some stuff.
I don't think it's bad to live a simple life.
But maybe the fox would have been happier with the grapes, perhaps they were not sour.
I can be without thoughts when I am dead,
Until then I am here.
There is nothing 'but the here for me.
I'm an Atheist and a Materialist,
I view this as my one moment of existence, I should like to enjoy it.
It's nice to meditate and sleep sometimes, doze off and stare blank,
But it's also nice to have goals and desires,
Feels good.
Motivates me to move, and take steps to continue to exist.
If one is 'nothing, then they don't have any Good either.
While I agree 'some situations, it can be useful to not think on it so much.
There exist many situations where one 'ought be thinking.
In general I'd say one ought think.
Take the Grasshopper and the Ant Fable for example,
Grasshopper didn't think about the future, ended up starving to death.
A person who doesn't think about their problems, frequently re encounters said problems.
Sometimes cleverness backfires on people,
Such as Mao and the Sparrows.
Rulers have great and mighty plans sometimes, but they can be risky.
. . . One might also think on laws in society.
How they pile up, bureaucratic red tape I mean. Not that laws are bad, but they 'can become an obstruction to the people.
The rulers maybe think this needs to be fixed, and that needs to be fixed, have clever thoughts and ideas, but sometimes they bind up the people, by their many complex actions.
But still, I like cleverness and smartness. Intelligence.
Many problems in life 'need solving.
. . . Even with all our tech and solutions, people 'can still be unhappy,
But I think by 'thinking, people can figure out how to be happy.
There is a phrase I have heard, "Too clever by half"
Even for individuals and themselves, I think this can be true.
Clever people sometimes look for shortcuts, and by this are sometimes troubled later in life.
Not that being clever is 'bad in my view,
But if one is 'always being clever, working on shortcuts and work arounds, then fundamentals don't get built up.
Necessary skills.
Necessary infrastructure, a problem keeps being avoided because it is easy, until the problem 'can't be avoided anymore, and is later perhaps 'too difficult to fix.
When it 'could have been relatively easy to fix, if one 'had addressed it, and not been clever in working around and avoiding it.
But I dislike the idea of not thinking.
Philosophy 'is thinking to my mind.
Sure, some situations it can be advantageous to let go of the situation.
. . It 'depends, some face punches can be let go of, others need to be remembered and addressed to prevent future face punches.
I 'think, therefore I am.
Evil, Good, either way, by thinking I 'exist.
Though I prefer to focus on the Good.
If I 'don't think, then Good does not exist.
The tree falling in the forest 'requires an observer.