Mikal

Tbf I think if the angleshooting is correct. Its way more likley luna than you and hate my brain is forming an opinion off this

Want to think on it more. But I dont buy himmel as vanilla. It's just weird.

And yeah its mod psych but I think you or Luna could have informed it.

If it helps. I nailed scum to a cross with this in a prior game

He just said I cant

Just will say. There is an undisclosed reason I have sus on someone who is engaging in the game now

And its more likley you or magic

Saying that for future reference because if its a scum thoth. Its very relevant.

Asking if I can share why im case ge actually does mod kill me

When I claim and if you think im scum. I think its largely a you problem. Unless you assume some high level bastard modding

Asking wf if I can share the angleshoot reasons.

But right now

Potentially thoth luna

Or thoth magic

I think there is an active scum posting between the people online.

So that's luna magic or Anna

Before a drunk luna starts to just death tunnel me. I will say im largely conformable whenever I chose to be and have no intention of complying with him. Especially as he gets progressively drunker. But as a soft. I am about a confirmable as conformable confirmable gets

Re thinking the thoth noob paring. Now thinking someone could have told him to claim that.

Again assuming hes scum.

If he flips scum we have a good chance at poe I think based on available info

Not going to go down the mod psych route but I have a backend reason to potentially assume 1 of 2 are scum and its incredibly angle shooty.

Can't spell it out but potentially will inform my reads on magic and luna

Given my justification and the framing to aspects in this game he has answered. There is a lot of thought in how he gave to character design

There is only one world where he makes himmel vanilla and its the justification magic gave unfortunately

But himel is a central character to the plot abd hia archetype does not line up with that in the slightest. It's way more likely hes not vanilla than is

The bigger point is wf has basically confirmed scum chose the fake claim option.

His wording is this

There is no given justification. The role and character claim are not necessarily pairable.

Meaning they very likely took the fake claim option

So there’s a case to be made for him(mel) being PR and a case to be made for him being vanilla.

I dislike you typing this. I was trying to avoid saying it because it gives him an out on how to claim vanilla. Its why I kept saying there is a world where wf designed himmel as vanilla. Spelling it out for him Instead of letting him say his justification first irks me

Potential world where you could have crafted that for him. But yes. That is the only world where himel wouod be vanilla. Its way more unlikely.

Im largely disregarding the luna points because when he wants to just bully and assert himself. It will go on a for a while. Hes trying to get a reaction out of me so no real point to engage it because its more of a reaction test

Not reading him as scum because hes vanilla. Its who its tied to.

This is one of my favorite animes lol. Its amazing

Its not that himel is 'big" He actually dies in the show but his character is a warrior/soldier. Hes kinda portrayed as a paladin , group leader etc. The main group goes on an adventure to kill the demon king. Show takes place after that. Main character frieren is an elf and doesn't age. She goes back to visit her adventuring party like 50 years after they killed the demon king. Himel is old and dying [in love with her]. He died of old age

She has major regrets that she doesn't perceive time the same as others and goes back on a journey to retrace her steps with a new party as a way to honor himel

Issue isn't how big himel is per say. Its how pivotal he is to the plot and the fact his class and role in game is a warrior archetype. Vanilla makes no sense and there is only one world where wf does that

As i mentioned. Its not some hard read. Jusg initial impressions. You and rex were a gut check based on what I saw at the start

Regardless all of that resolves later. Thoth claim is a much bigger issue

Only if thoth flipped scum. This claim is god awful bad. Its either mod given and a very specific intention behind the design. Its possible but not as likely

Or as wf noted. Both a character and fake role claim were given but are not tied together. Meaing if this it the fake claim. More experienced veterans would role over dead before we allowed a scum thoth to claim this unless he just did it yolo

Again all assuming he were to flip scum. A scum thoth with that claim is likely not paired with certain people

Pressed wf harder on his meaning and this is what he gave me

There is no given justification. The role and character claim are not necessarily pairable.

Yeah I want to look at thoth hard

Not engaging posts are different than just posting to post.

You were asking questions about the game and things people have said. Some as one liners. My point is that is often a way for scum to try and appear towny

Posting pure irrelevant or non game related stuff is an entirely different thing

One is done with the intention to appear town. The other is done for no reason at all. Granted sometimes that can be a way for scum to coast as well

Thoth claim is a much bigger issue than anything. I want his justification

Maybe its really simple as thoth Anna and they got bad rng lol

If thoth flips scum

Should mostly clear pie luna magic and myself

Had wf said he gave a character with a justification, I would have hard town read him because claiming himmel out the gate early is balls of steel if you are doing a fake claim

Im prob okay with pushing thoth. Want to hear the justification but with the character and role being separate. Himmel makes the most sense as a fake claim as well ironically. Just doesn't make sense for him to be in the game and be vanilla.

Bodyguard

Paladin

Etc would be his lane.

Don't want to jump on this to hard yet and end early because there is an outside world where wf made him vanilla but this is extremely odd.

My bet is the opted for the fake role and character and if thoth is scum. Then he is prob with a noob cus no one let's him claim this out the gate

Where the character and role claim combined or separate

Would you give mafia

You are x because y

Or

A character not in the game is x

A role not in the game is y

Depending on how this is answered im prob killing thoth

If he gave a character with a justification for that character thoth is likely hard town

If he did the latter. Thoth is prob scum

So like thinking on this. There is a world where he is vanilla but lord that makes not a lot of sense. Himel is literally the foundation of the show and the reason they are going to kill the demon king

Just mentioned below. Im not sure its a hard read for me but it seems like feigned engagement. Thoth claim imo is a much bigger issue.

Cus himmel as vanilla is kinda troll

Because i was gone and there is nothing to engage with so far. Which is also why no one has really developed hard reads.

My point is individually responding to posts like "why?" Or "explain that" is something I often find mafia do when they are wanting to appear town. Its like cheap analysis

Justification

This doesn't make much sense at all

Just got back from hanging out with family but doesn't look like i missed to much

Initial gut check is there is prob 1 scum between rex and Anna

I dislike anas entrance and I hate that I do because im tired of pressuring and killing her. But the random questions to people and how its separated out just seems fake. Like less reads and more about how shes responding to look like shes engaging

I also disliked the initial pressure from rex on to her. Dont think they could be paired as scum

I should be around more this game than last. Still busy at work and kids prom is over the weekend but not here 14 hours a day this week. So should be able to check in more

If I was being opportunistic I would bandwagon. Would have pressured Anna or something cus there was already votes there

I do think there is value in pressuring thoth. He vomits at the mouth as scum and slips like crazy. So what I said was true. He had people telling him over and over to shut up and stop talking when he's scum. Think there is likely some trauma there. So I think if you see a uncommon level of inactivity, it could be a scum tell

From his past games. He will hang himself. So pressure there is never bad because it keeps him engaged