Mikal

If you read what he was doing at no point did he say you were full on scum. He said you were acting scummy (you are/were) and he was questioning your logic and explanations. Luna will death tunnel you int the ground and call people idiots and morons for not voting for you if he was actually wanting you to die. I’ve seen him death tunnel RM and others. This is literally him saying

hey bro you are playing sus or just playing like shit so help me figure out which it is before I kill you or we have to kill you

especially since you are the sore thumb this day phase.

I can’t decipher whether mag is town or scum. Everything points to scum but I Havnt played with him enough to just finger out if he’s playing shitty so I’m okay with coming back to this later and I feel like awesome is to much of a risk to shoot

we do prob need some claims tomorrow and push from more on shinning and awesome or they can just coast if they are scum.

Mines on vtnl

Rex prob missed it

I have no desire to claim. I’ve said my abilities contradicts one of yours and if I am lying, I will get killed eventually. It’s already a soft claim.

you are going heavy heavy omgus. Luna is not death tunneling you or pressuring you like you think he is. He’s genuinely trying to understand your logic. Same thing I was trying to do. It’s not saying you are scum, if anything I’m struggling to understand if you are just playing a horrendous scum game or just eratic scum town. Someone pointing out inconsistencies in what you are saying or questioning your logic isn’t a scum tell. If anything it’s giving you the benefit of the doubt. Either one of us could have started a wagon on you and likely have it go through because you have lied about your role and just suggested full on anti town ideas but if anything we are trying to consider the fact you are just playing bad and aren’t scum.

but like it’s all listed in the above

suggesting a mass claim is a scum thing to do when there is no benefit

suggesting a massive power role out is also a scum thing to do with no benefit

lying about one of your roles when you are under no pressure is weird by itself but the reasons you had for doing so also make no sense and all of that is scummy

my abilities contradict one of yours

i if anyone am being extremely passive with my normal play and trying to actually give you the benefit of the doubt and consider that you are playing poorly and are nervous. I think Luna is doing the same. But omgus on anyone who disagrees with you is silly.

objectively you appear scummy it’s just whether you are scum/ noob town accidentally and played awfully or you are scum and got caught up in some weird sequence of lies and also are playing poorly

if any one person wanted you dead youd prob be dead. Again If anything we are being extremely cautious and considering eveyrthing. No one is death tunneling you lol

Mago being weird

lied about being framer because he didn’t want to out vengeful

assumed scum would target him and give him favor since he claimed framer

I have roles that contradict one of his abilities.

debate between if he’s noob town or just playing bad as town or just shitty scum play

likey looking at vtnl or awesome either for inactive snipe or just vtnl since no real time to narrow it more

Are you notified if miller activates?

Request for future Dayphases can we end at like late night est just so everyone has time to get back from work etc

Actually you right

Unvote

vtnl

Also fine with no lynching. But something about his behavior leads me to think he’s town. I agree depending on his flip. I have more of a meta on him but for now I just think he is playing poorly (as town) could be playing bad as mafia but I still get noob town

VTL awesome

im good with yolo shooting someone who hasn’t posted a lot. Gut is wrong sometimes but gut is saying scum is either inactive and coasting. Letting us just hang our selves or was on mags wagon.

I just can’t shake he’s town. We both are in the same view. I just read it as retard town.

Tbh I’m good with shooting an inactive.

The claim and character make sense from what I can gather. Works with his role. I just am stuck on his behavior. My gut is saying town but he’s def spastic and tunneling Luna

Yea I had already looked it up before he claimed and just wanted to see if it checked out or he slipped

Why are you disregarding my question. Who is your character. Please answer this pretty quickly since you are here

I’m leaning town on him

Who is your character

Do you have a character?

Has he been caught as scum before ?

Can you full claim at this point. I’m leaning toward Thoth or someone else on your wagon given hour reaction but want toakw sure this all ties up. No reason not to at this point.

It usually always deactivates at mylo

Being pissed or even feigning being pissed is cool. But I think you have to see how people are looking at you

1. Mass claim push - objectively bad idea
2. empress claim - objectively bad idea

chalk all that up to being new but then

1. lie about your role and justify it as a wait to bait favor which doesn’t make sense
2. say you have a useless role if you claim it

i buy the latter but you are def acting the strangest out of everyone and I’m really struggling to pin down whether it’s just poor play and scum slips or you are just new and nervous.

You prob need to full claim because you are a bit all over the place. I’d wait until you are closer to l-1 but you have to see how your behaving weird.

you are essentially saying claiming framer was going to make scum give or redirect favor to you over Wylted, and that they would know you would use your negative utility roles instead of waiving which (which any town would do) and you would use it in a way that benefits them.

But that assumes you have to use your frame. So you are saying. They would give you favor, assume you would use framer, and then also redirect you instead of waiving it which any town person would do

over giving it wylted which makes him perma guilty the entire game

But why do you think claiming framer would have them target you? Or is that even relevant to the framer claim. I’m trying to understand the statement of “they would target me or wylted”. Why do you think they are going to target you.

I genuinely want to know your thought process. Why would you think scum would give you favor assuming they could. Wylted makes perfect sense as his activates miller. You claiming a role prevention role (forget if stop or block) and framer. Why would they target you. If anything they would assume you would waive which you said you could if I recall.

why would they give you favor?

wylted sure

Why are you assuming they can give favor. The OP says other roles, not what alignment they are. Could be another town that could increase favor. None of those are AI confirmed.

Agree with Luna on the scum giving favor thing. It’s assumes they can fuck with mechanics and possibly move favor around but not give favor.

Well not your role. One your abilities. I just fail to see why essentially three things doing the same thing would exist as town.