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I’m not claiming.


I didn’t make you claim. I said I’d like you to claim because in my view Thoth or you were the best lynch given the time dilemma. I literally said I thought someone on your wagon was scum and wanted you to claim to get pressure off so we could move to Thoth bar a weird claim


you lied about a portion of your role

and one your abilities functions very similar to two of mine. So I don’t see the point of that existing as town. Again not a hard cc just a note


you were under no pressure and I said I’m fine with you claiming and you chose to do that with 1 vote


everything about that interaction is odd and your role just does not make sense with mine

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I’m not claiming. I’m just saying I don’t buy one of you abilities town because i have two abilities that essentially do the same thing.

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I wasn’t even referring to framer. Just the other roles. I think my roles and some of yours don’t make sense. It would only make sense if you are scum.



not a direct cc but I’ll say 2 of my abilities contradict one of yours.

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Okay i am going to say. I don’t buy his roles as town. I’m not hard cc’ing but there is extreme overlap

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I skimmed the dp in 10 mins and it’s a gut read. I’ve been wrong when I tunneled on gut reads before. More like I’m good with him claiming and if it makes sense, I’m good with moving to Thoth. I just think he is the most pinned suspect at the moment and it’s 5 hours. Don’t have time to reallly get something going so a claim doesn’t hurt as it gives us where to go from there.

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With 5 hours I think it’s either Thoth or Mag and I still think mag is noob town. I’m fine with getting a full claim from mag and then picking him or Thoth off that. But we need a claim before we shot

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Mass claiming does nothing. Scum can still claim retarted shit in a mass claim. Likely won’t need to as Rex said they have been given 2 fake claims and now know how to optimally use their abilities. There are times with mass claiming makes sense. Theme games with no fake claims, or there is a way to catch someone from it. With fake claims being present and in a 12 person game. It’s actually dumb as fuck to do this. Just gets us ran over because they know exactly how to manipulate the game given they likely can target Vader

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Maybe Thoth. Over posting, a lot of fluff, and trying to appear towny and jumped on that wagon asap.

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Okay read through on a skim level. Again FYI just moved upstate into a snowstorm, no power, don’t have a computer set up yet and adjusting to life with kids on top of a lot of other stuff. Played because skep really needed an extra person for his setup but inactivity is not a scum read and anyone that knows me outside of game can verify I am literally so busy I can’t think atm. Hopefully stuff settles down soon



that being said. I am not familiar with this show but am familiar with the theme on a broad level. Emperor, empress dowager, and concubines is present in a lot of shows and anime. Marco Polo, apoth diaries etc. it’s exactly as Rex describes it. A bunch of people trying to get into power by doing shady shit. So it would not surprise me if town even have negative utility roles, if there is a tp etc. given how Vader functions. I think it’s more likely that it’s 3 scum and both town and scum likely have roles that can affect favor or fuck with the emperor directly (as implied by the op). Almost sure scum can target the emperor directly and fuck with favor.


Vader gives favor to x. It’s stopped or redirected etc. then when he says I gave it to x, it makes the look like shit. Kind of ties in with the entire theme split of shady shit and everyone going for power




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I don’t think magrith is scum. All his suggestions are retarted but I think that comes from a noob town place and I think scum is prob on the wagon of killing him as it’s very opportunistic and a super easy lunch to point back at and defend.



wylted claim bothers me. It’s not just a miller but it’s a miller as he gains favor. So the emperor picks him and he turns into a miller where he can’t be investigated. It’s essentially saying do target me. But as I’m thinking about this in real time more, it’s a good way for scum to redirect or move favor on to him to make him appear guilty and the emperor would say he didn’t target him. I actually buy this and I think Wylted could be town



I want to look at the Magroth Wagon because again I think it’s a very easy push to make when the logic behind it just bleeds noob town

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FYI not fully around but should be good to go tomorrow. Mentioned to skep id have to start Monday as I’m still moving and setting stuff up.

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literally that someone other than myself visited them. Not how many, (can be more than 1), just that someone that was not me also visited that person or if no one visited them

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I targeted you and saw someone visit you other than myself


if I was redirected to Mharm then yes. Someone visited him other than myself. I could have saw supa since he redirected me so not sure how that works.

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He did start by saying your target was not visited by someone other than yourself.


and then correct it.



that means magic was visited by someone if super is telling the truth and pie was likely not given his first response.

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I saw something about full claim so don’t want to do that yet but I can see if someone visits someone. I didn’t read the game at all cus he sent me the pm super late as I was going to bed


said im invited to be a magical girl and was like bet. Then said it failed. Then he asked me how I wanted to target and I said pie cus he’s normally the most active and as town I figured someone would target him which they seem to have


if no one person is claiming to visit him then that all but town locks him

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Did vader claim what he is, also does anyone have a result. I do have some information but its largely useless unless other results are said

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I am very tapped on time but agreed to play just to try and get mafia moving again. I got targeted by the same offer. I accepted but did not through as well.

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I think the only think I noticed is


town wins don’t count a lot

mafia wins count a lot


town loses also don’t count a lot

but mafia loses count a lot


im assuming it’s the number of players in the game



but if you had 2 mafia wins compared to someone who had two town wins my assumption is that the mafia wins would weigh significantly more

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No we only had role blocker and she accidentally kos herself. But like seeing it now. It was cooked after that.



by people claiming figured you or skep was cop cus miller was in the game



but yeah no shot I was making it to the end. Surprised we only had a roleblock