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The anti claim would have just caused a mislynch which is fine. I have not seen one with a role anti claim because balance is often something you look at but even the permanent vanilla thing is whatever. I can eat that. The extra kill is what flipped the game. Or at least say, yeah I’ve fucked up enough so I’m giving mafia 2 kills. Allows wf at least the chance to doctor and unsaid not to shoot so it’s not mylo. Unsaid likely shot cus it’s 10 people. We still get 2 more Dayphases and I’m sure wf didn’t think 2 kills were happening so he went cop first.



that is my peeve with all this. All the anti claim role madness is whatever. If you make a choice like that. You have to let people know cus they are picking actions around that.

Mikal

Like every choice punished town. I would rather have just been modkilled.


and because of mod mistakes it takes out 1 extra town person for no reason



anyway I’m done bitching. This just wa incredibly dumb and not fun. On to the next one.

Mikal

Copying this from the other thread


1) if you didn’t like angle shooting put rules against it or just mod kill me


2) you can’t just give mafia an extra kill for fucks and giggles. Literally punishes a town player for something you messed up. If you wanted to end that. Mod kill me and move on. Don’t give an extra kill and make an unbalanced game more unbalanced.


3) you literally gave them the win by allowing them to get to mylo on dp2.



spin it how you want. This entire game was a series of mistakes and bad choices and instead of just letting it play out. You allow one of the town power roles to die as a response and send us to mylo dp2



I get it’s a learning that but no part of this was town sided. Nor were the choices made correct.

Mikal

Thre extra kill literally let pie lock in innocnent child which he has been softing since dp1 where as a single kill at lesst gives 3 Dayphase a.


the extra kill literally broke this


removes one power role from the game entirely and removes a Dayphase.



lowkey so annoyed. I always say gg and move on. But this was definitely bastard modding

Mikal

its a 10 person game and we got 2 tries to kill someone


1) none of that was mod confirmed. I was trying to sell it and make a case but half the people were questioning Luna


2) you can’t just give someone an extra kill cus the mod messed up. Completely breaks balance. Makes a tp look like it’s in the game or other weird shit that should not happen. Doing that literally was a dp2 mylo in a 10 person game. It’s not fair or balanced.


3) anti claim has always existed for a full claim. Not a partial claim (but that’s fine)



4) refusing to tell me if I was roleblocked because he thought my role should not let me know if I’m roleblocked then saying everyone doesn’t get told if there is a roleblock is just weird.


2 anti claim blocks + 2 night kills to cover for a mistake is wild and there is no way to defend that



a 10 person game ending on dp2 lmao

Mikal

It’s not your fault dude.



literally says most townsied game in history when entire town can turn into vanilla and he gives them an extra kill and it covers pies claiim

Mikal

Also the reason I was not coming off you is cus godfather is common like very here


my role bypasses that



he also adjusted how roleblock works because he felt like my role should not know.


so the fact that claiming your role turns you into a vanilla. Nah.


ill eat it.

Mikal

Not even mad at mafia.


had to be exactly you and pie


or awesome + 1


but dear holy fuck. The extra kill and stopping 4 people in one night and just saying. Nah I can’t say if you weee roleblocked so no one knows if they are roleblocked



just the fuck

Mikal

Like just yolo. Mafia gets 2 kills cus why not.


let me kill Thoth or Luna cus one person is making a half ass care about mod confirmation so they assume a tp is in the game



oh also


your about to get lynched and need to claim your role cus the game has to move on. Wonderful. You are vanilla


sop claim. Your vanilla



I’m crashing the fuck out

Mikal

Bro.


anti claim for 4 roles and not characters to stop 4 fucking people


then awarding an extra kill because he viewed the two as mod confirm. I was the only one who even sold on that. It effectively negated Thoth or Luna and lunas rb could have stopped a nk


giving me a role I can’t even use cus role madness.


adding like 17 investigative roles



this low-key was the dumbest shit I’ve ever seen in 10 years of mafia and I never rage. Adding an extra kill to compensate for a case that I was making when it wasn’t even a mod lock.


then telling me my role doesn’t tell me I’m roleblocked.


I very seldom call bastard modding but this is literally the definition of bastard modding.


a 10 person games ends in 2 days is just Kekw



ready to move on to the next. Dear god

Mikal

O percent chance I was coming off awesome. Because my role superceded a cop.


and I had not claimed my character



not even considering the fact someone had to not move to hear me and every person in the game could move.


holy fuck


Mikal

This was the dumbest fucking game I’ve ever played. Not even rage. The fact that he said Taylor was op but then allowed 3 people to die and all 4 people that claimed (not even their character to be stopped)



Low-key I don’t even care



also told me my role would not allow me to know if im roleblocked

Mikal

I’d be super interested to see how my result didn’t work. Honestly stopped caring when David told me he would not tell me I was role blocked because he thought my role should not allow me to know.



it did have to be exactly pie and skep or wf would have pushed but I was not coming off awesome with how my role works.

Mikal

I just wana kill awesome and this point and either lose or move on. I don’t think we are getting anything else and I don’t think the target is moving with the evidence I have



it is what it is. I usually have thoughts about balance but can’t even rule all these roles in the game with 3 people dying and me having multiple roles. It’s very hard to solve this and just ready to move it forward. Win or lose

Mikal

I’m saying if you didn’t move you would have had to heard my song as town


the only way you would not hear it is if max and I both were roleblocked. In which case it’s gg



i am not moving off you and my gut id saying its you and wf. If the result is wrong then what can you do. I’m not even told if I was roleblocked so have to trust what I have.



Mikal

Do not end until skep claims. There is actually a reason now to get it. Was more useful not knowing if pie didn’t claim inno child but with that out, now we need to solve.

Mikal

skep. Now that pie has claimed innocent child. I do want your role , not your character. Your result won’t matter tomorrow as it’s going to be you vs wf

Mikal

I largely don’t see the point in wasting more time. Let’s just vote awesome. If he’s town gg


But the fact max seems like he got roleblocked and he didn’t hear me and he’s not even trying



I’m just ready to move on

Mikal

Note : if awesome flips scum and he has a roleblock ability



if you are town. Do not move and waive your action.



they won’t have two role blocks and I can’t die.



I’ll target wf or skep and if they don’t hear my song it’s gg


this is only if he flips roleblocket

Mikal

Okay you are beloved


will wait to hear from everyone



if we kill awesome and he’s scum. The game is in good shape. I don’t think I’m changing my vote



max is town confirm and anyone going into tomorrow should know that


either pie is town or the game is over. If he’s fake claiming beloved and awesome is town. Game is already over from mod fuckery and results.



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tldr. If awesome is town. Gg scum


if awesome is scum.



we are going into tomorrow with a town lock max, a town lock me and a town pie cus he will flip innocent child






Mikal
Lunatic’s last sorta scumread was on me. So logically, he roleblocked me last night. Didn’t matter cause there were a million kills. I’d like to take the town cred but it’s speculation, so I’ll leave it.


pretty sure this may be a slip