Mikal

Are you saying you were role blocked?

Will you claim your role not character

Like I said if he’s town. We already lost.

I am town. I know my results. We had 3 deaths in a night phase which is lol and max could not use his role. So if I also had something that made me not act so I’m assuming things incorrectly. It is what it is.

kinda want to move on to the next game anyway. This game is role madness and I have no idea if I was roleblocked

ready to move on and be happy it’s right or just be happy the game is done

it’s just the reaching

I am confirmed popular (that portion of my role is locked). So you are theorizing that as as confirmed popular scum. I took my partners fake claim, claimed an insane role to blend with the popular (which would take his fake clam) , have softed everything I said up until this point. In addition to town locking 2 people which then forced us to target them to take them out of the pool I put them in?

Because town locking them as scum which then would force me to only kill them makes a lot of sense?

Town locking two players that flipped town when I largely would have avoided that as scum so the Poe is larger.

/in- critical role mafia

Got it. Instead of just claiming popular town if I were popular scum. I would have wasted a partners fake claim to claim somrthing that stuck out like a sore thumb at the start of the game.

I would absolutely not have claimed out the gate. It would have to have been a fake claim. So unless you think im popular mafia pulling somrthing it largely makes no sense.

especially since as mafia I would not know the balance and have access to a fake claim (which David confirmed he provided)

so you think I openly claimed this when they were given a fake a claim?

Consistency is a massive indicator yes.

I think for a fact. It has to be awesome +1

or it’s exactly pie and skep

you can’t be scum and awesome be town because you would be pushing this already.

I’ll say it again. If awesome is town the game is over

what pie says largely changes tomorrow from Poe

I will say the only missing piece to this puzzle is who unsaid shot

because the only person he was sus on was awesome and you. He did flip his read on you but off eveyrthing he said , he said he scumread awesome.

if someone can explain to me how my role didn’t work when max was also role blocked then im game to listen. Max would have had to have been anti claimed.

i have outright claimed my role. Validated popular and have been nothing but consistent this entire game with what I said. Other than how the role functions. Specifically said anyone could get it so I was less likely to be fucked with (thinking scum eould hope they could get results and fake it )

yes my role - which tbf is functionally useless as everyone can move. I happened to have one person said he can’t move and went with the logical answer

I have hinted at this the entire dp and even you said everything I softed made logical sense. Now you are backing tracking that as a balance once I am agree out with someone that claiming is useless because if anti claim.

the reason I’m asking pie - is inno child. He cannot have results

and not skep - he’s a gaping hole on what we can do. He may be able to get results.

is that anti claim could actively hurt results. It baffles me what case you are trying to make or even the logic.

all this back and forth is kinda useless. As I just need pie to say he’s inno or not and we either have Poe or pie is the last scum

The only thing you said was

him claiming at mylo should be done for Poe when we have a person that is already locked as scum. You still have yet to validate the above points. As town it hurts us and as scum it won’t change the mislynch. He’s not going to just claim godfather or jailkeeper. He’s going to claim something super obscure or safe and we will sus it and still kill awesome because of the results. If awesome is town we have already lost. Him claiming does not change that course.

Series of simple questions

1) do you think anti claim exists? You yourself made an entire case it does because it’s nasty.

2) if skep is town. Does exposing him to anti claim harm us?

3) as town do you agree the only time you typically out your role is when you have relevant info

4) as scum do you think he would say anything that alters me causing a mislynch if awesome was town (if I’m wrong I’m wrong but it changes nothing) he would claim passive shit and let me run us off a cliff

if 4 is true then do you not agree that the risk of 1,2, and 3 is a reason for him not to claim. As him claiming as scum does not change anything. It only hurts us if he’s town

You may as well appeal to max and pie. No idea why you are tagging your scum partner.

To move past this. Do you have anything to offer that could change or alters my results?

Not even that. As a scum you would just validate my results if im up the wrong tree. That’s my point. It does nothing

I mean if im wrong im wrong but I know mu

logic is right regardless of the flip. I have damming info on Awsome so barring skep affecting that. Him claiming does nothing

Also yes. I want pie to role claim because he’s all but said he’s innocent child. It’s entirely relevant. Also I asked for just his role and not his character

Again give me a reason that it makes sense for him to claim

1) as town is his info pertinent to this lynch. If so yes, he should claim. If no explain the value in having it now when it exposes him to anti claim if it does not offer a better target or provide something that invalidates my read

2) as scum do you think he’s going to claim

something that is inconsistent with other NP actions that have already been outlined? If so you think he’s dumb. Also as scum do you think he’s going to derail a mislynch when it’s gg.

my point is he’s going to claim something as scum safe enough to not change anything but if he’s town (outside of having info that alters this path) the only thing it’s doing is exposing him to anti claim

please give me any scneario like 1. Where anything he says as scum is valid. WhT

do you think. He’s going to be like. Oh yeah I role blocked him to derail it lol?

if he’s a town jailkeeper that targeted me. Then sure he needs to talk.

Please explain to me both scenarios.

as town I concede. If he has something that altered last night. He should speak up

as scum. Please explain in which case he would ever derail a mislynch and what him fake claiming does to contribute to finding out I’m wrong. Any scenario you can imagine.

1) the part about him validating shit now or tomorrow is true but it’s also at the risk of exposing him To anti claim. Unless he outright says something that catches someone. What has isn’t relevant today. If he had that He would have already said it.

the only thing claiming today does is expose him to anti claim if he’s town

2) you explain how anything he says affects what happened. I invite him to say something that affected it. If I’m wrong. As a scum hes just going to shut up and let it ride. The only person who would say something is town. So sure if he has info that changes my analysis. I invite him to claim or speak up

3) you tell me how him claiming helps get the lynch right? If he had relevant info he would say it. As scum if the lynch is wrong he doesn’t speak anyway.

Pie has put himself in a corner

he has

claimed a role that was affiliation confirmable. Very few do that

claimed a role that operates or gets use dp3. As scum he could be saying that knowing today is mylo and he just needs to get to tomorrow. But now that I have said damming evidence which is why I wanted to get wait to say it all. He’s kinda fucked

needed him to soft claim or claim as much as possible to tie him to that so he coudnt move

and needed to validate awesome was or wasn’t town

basically just hard locks pie into that claim

I do want pie to role claim. Don’t care about his character or justification.

1) do you think he is going to claim something as scum that doesn’t line up with what’s been claimed. You either think he’s retarted or just not paying attention if so. Literally every night action has been said

2) there could be a small margin of error in what I did. Max being anti claimed and me being role blocked. But at that rate. 3 people dying and my role past that being useless. Not much I can do.

3) why do you think locking him into something now is better when we can lock him into it tomorrow and awesome is today’s lycnh regardless? He won’t have tomorrows night actions and has to claim or validate what someone did. We have him claim first and if anything is inconsistent we caught him. On the chance he is town. It’s telling mafia how to fuck with his role and exposing him to anti claimed shit when we already have today’s target.

4) if pie claims anything but innocent child I’m prob outright killing him. He literally said his role is used on dp3 and he’s affil lock. Not worried about by pie. He will die tomorrow or not

if pie is confirmed then it’s between you and ref and I’d rather have ref caught in a lie that giving him the chance to plan something

Ngl. If i know something affects my read. Ima say it. If I can’t I’ll just bullshit a reason lol.

it’s impossible not to act or operate on something that impacts your perception of someone. It’s just whether I fabricate a town read or don’t.

Pie has said he can’t move almost in full.

I think ref claiming largely does nothing. We have all said what we can did. If he’s scum

hes going to fabricate something to match that now or tomorrow. If he’s town, it’s one other thing scum have to account for.

it will larger solve nothing. We have to hope awesome is scum. Outside of bastard modding or just pure lack of balance. Awesome should flip scum

pie will be confirmed innocent child or not tomorrow

and then if his role has lawyer or godfather and you are validated

either way we win this by Poe primarily cus of pies claim.

giving scum more potential info when it won’t matter by Poe anyway is largely useless.

whether he claims what he did now or claims what he did tomorrow. It doesn’t matter. If he claims now it’s actually easier for him to lie if he’s scum cus we all said our night actions. If he claims tomorrow at least there will be shit he can’t account for. Assuming he’s an active role. Fuck even if he’s passive he could claim Something that doesn’t match up. Fact is him claiming how allows him to come up with a pretty easy fake claim as scum and if he’s town. It just harms us

picked the best possible target to solve because of what he claimed. If I’m wrong then I’m curious to see what affected it. But largely anything anyone says is not moving my vote and now we have pie who has basically all but claimed innocent child and if awesome flips anything to justify a cop we can have 1 or 2 more town locks with max and myself.

happy to throw it up to the wind at this point.