Mikal

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Lady Dayphase is not relevant.

This has to be the path. At least pressure him to cooperate and he will die by not claiming or claim. If he claims, then we set a time after that and all mass claim.

Please look at the tmi thing and see if you see the same slip or am I crazy

That is not grasping at straws. I’ve said since the start of this dp you make the most sense as the recruit. We are not focusing on you because if it happens to be wrong we outright can lose

I’m just saying it’s very odd to say Casey was innactive so the recruit was used. Yeah she didn’t post but the dp ended quick as shit. It’s the inference as to why she didn’t post that is weird to me.

I really dislike doing this without him Ngl. As if he’s resisting because he is og scum it’s giving them options for claiming.

think we need a time and all agree to it. I’m more asking if he is still refusing how do you see a path forward. As much typing as there is. This dp has been largely useless.

Everyone read this

Casey was not very active last DP. It makes sense for them to use in on NP1. Also I think this also clears a lot of the folks who were and have been rather inactive.

is this tmi to anyone else?

The only ones that are largely in active are supa and skep

as mentioned above and for different reasons. I don’t think they were the recruit anyway. Casey being innactive is also not tied to why they used it or at least I can’t image it’s relevant.

Ngl that kinda read as tmi. Felt like you knew she could not play so used it because she was busy or something.

If we can’t get this mass claim off the ground. Do you have thoughts?

we are running out of time and im on a time limit tonight and tomorrow

It’s not a skill thing. 3 of us have been playing for years so in terms of experience. That makes sense

you being newer is less relevant than your role.

them using that np1 and not later in the game is telling. They either immediately wanted to use it to gain an experienced player or you but they could cause a lot more chaos if it was later. The only thing that was open dp1 was your claim.

but I do think it’s between you pie or wf. I get stuck on you because I don’t see why else they would sacrifice that np1. Even if they wanted to recruit someone that is experienced. Doing it later in the game just to reset the game makes so much more sense.

Thought process so far is I don’t think Ref or Supa is the recruit which means I don’t think they are the team together

supa because I really doubt he was the recruit because he’s always scum read and it just seems like a off the wall pick when David was on the table as vengeful or more experienced players.

ref because I think he would be jumping at the fake claim for town cred

they would have to have started scum

ref bothers me. I think the entire table is in agreement with pie that we need to mass claim due to the recruit and the resistance is largely pointless at this stage. It’s either because he is softing a power role which is totally obvious to mafia at this point with the refusal to claim or he could be scum and the one who started as scum and is scared to claim in general due to being caught out with his role.

betting man. I think the recruit was between David, Pie, or Wf

i also think supa is likely town with that role. The role exists prob to make sure all 4 robots, synethics, whatever all claimed and didn’t fake claim. Leads me to think the starting scum was between one of those 4

so with what we have now

gut is going towards

skep

wf,pie,David as the recruit

if we do this we all need to pick a time. I don’t think drawing or popcorn is useful as if ref is refusing due to being caught out . Being on the backend will only give them an edge.

if we are going to do this we need to do it soon. Good chance I’ll be in active from tonight until tomorrow evening because I have a certification thing I am working on. We either need to commit or not

I’m off and on so just let me know when we wana do it. Working my regular hours but I’m also studying for some certifications so I check up on it when I can.

I will say if Rex continues to refuse it. We prob should abort it as it kills the point. As wf mentioned it will be a way harder lynch with less info.

i don’t think Rex was the recruit which concerns me even more with David. If Rex was recruited, he would be open as shit to saying his role if he was town. So he likely either started scum and doesn’t want to risk a claim or he’s town.

My pm talks about humans and xenomorphs

Also was not saying we have to lynch David. I’m saying if he’s scum and we don’t lynch him the game is over.

pie is operating under the assumption he is and taking out his partner.

im just pointing out factually that if he’s scum and we don’t hit scum. The game is prob over

Finishing up work but I’m around

Which is why Pie is wanting full claims. He wants to focus on the other potential mafia.

Correction

if he’s scum and we lynch incorrectly we lose *

It still largely is true.

if he is scum and we don’t lynch him we lose. If he’s town and he shoots and misses we lose. If he’s town, we lynch him and he holds, we get one more dp

the fact is still there. If he’s scum and goes past today, it’s gg If there is 2 scum.

Non humans and non aliens*

the 4 that are being called out in that role directly.

i think supa is town and I think pie could be town unless he was converted. Claiming

ripley when it’s mentioned in the scum

flip is ballsy as shit if he’s scum.

Initial thought is one of the 4 non humans is scum and the role is there to prevent fake claiming.

I agree with this

I think it’s more likely David was still the possible target or another experienced player. Supa is like the worst person to pick because he’s always scum read. He would have had to been scum off the flip

seems like the information is there to counteract fake claims. Don’t really understand the point of it as pie had said he talked to Luna last dp and the split was “hard” and the game was swingy.

so it’s not helping the split and and there is the possibility the person that received it (wf) could have been converted

I doubt that is a scum role though.

makes me town read supa but the information seems largely not helpful and is more role confirmation.

Rex also claimed

I’m the engineers btw. I claimed earlier.

pie is ripley.

Go ahead and character claim. We have to do something to move it forward and skep has already claimed that. At least we can start there and it at least limits the amount of fake claiming of roles if we decide to do it later because it would have to fit with the character.

I agree has to be everyone or abort. Are you good with character claiming? We can at least popcorn that to move it forward

Explain how we pick a good target today when it can be potentially be mylo and the yakuza set us back to this functioning as dp1. This is not just me pushing. It’s everyone else in the game agreeing and you are the oddball. Pie was the one who started it if I recall and I agree with him. Given the potential that David is scum and the game just ends if we mislynch, we have to have information from somewhere.

and the only thing we have to go off of atm is theme, balance, and motivations. Again I’m open to other suggestions but pies proposal seems the most coherent given the current situation.

I think having everything on the table to analyze is important because you not claiming your role for protection or because you think it’s important is useless if David is scum and we mislynch. Great you don’t tell anyone, and that is less info we have. For whatever reason you are an op role, it’s then useless because the game is over.

if we are not doing that, then Im fine with character claiming only as at least we can look at theme. But it’s less info to make a judgement call on at potential mylo.

not sure how else to explain it but again if we pick wrong the game could be over

Just in case we don’t get a mass claim. I’m the engineers. We have to do something to get some type of info and super has posted like 3 times and you are not wanting to cooperate with it. So it’s extremely difficult and frustrating to gauge things atm.

The issue is if we aren’t full claiming it’s worthless and giving to much info. With a mafia recruit, confirmable roles are useless. The only thing we have to go off is theme (which Luna said would be hard if I recall), balance (we need all roles to do this), and motivation about who you targeted (need to know the role to understand the motivation)

the only one who revealed anything dp1 was David. And mafia activated that recruit off the rip. So they either gambled and we need all the info we can get or they picked David because if he is vengeful and takes someone down with him. I’m not sure if they picked him, because I behavioral lean town with him but if he is scum, today is mylo. That recruit role is very powerful and imo is better used on a confirmed townie or disrupt thought processes later in the game. Why use it off the rip and gamble with who you get? That’s what bothers me about David. Is when they chose to use.

we need something to progress the game and I agree mass claiming is a situational thing but this is one of the few times we legitimately need as much info as we can because if he is scum and we pick wrong the game is over

so we have to assume they picked at random. Dayphase is ended fast as shit because of the vote count blunder and no real info was givien. Or we can assume they could have went after the only claimed role which is extremely powerful as scum.

any role even even confirmable roles can be scum. So if you have another way to move the day forward outside of voting mostly at random and without using what we have to poe which is only night actions and motivations/balance (it’s essentially day phase 1 again along with potentially being mylo). I’m open to hear it

ref refused above