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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

If we are not all doing this. We should not do it all. The point is the mass claim was to analyze who took what actions on np1 and why. Also to analyze roles from balance since town roles are no longer confirmable since any town role could be mafia.


having most people do it and not all just gives scum an advantage. If we are all not agreeing to do this, we should abort



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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

I was glancing and saw 2/5 so didn’t pay attention cus I figured it was beyond safe.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

Do you think anyone last dp was widely town read. Dp ended in hours thanks to a botched vote count by David. Mafia uses the recruit with only one role that was outed. Do you think they picked randomly?

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

to clarify, that means we have to hit his partner. If we miss his partner and he's scum it's gg. It could already be mylo.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

We either kill him today or town lock him. Assuming we hit his partner if he's scum, that math changes and we have breathing room.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

lol literally posted about the same thing above. I want to hear from everyone first.


ima be honest, I really dislike a lot about your claim and play. You softed a power role to "fuck with mafia as you put it". Which is convenient after I said you could confirm me. Granted, I knew you could be passive so it's still possible this is truth. It's just a very good out which is why I did not want to say shit until you claimed. I want to hear from everyone else first and dissect from there.


who would you target as the kill?

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

I think the way this has to play out. Is we by consensus have to townlock david and not touch him the rest of the game and pray we are right. Or we have to lynch him and let him shoot the lynch target. If he is town and shoots town the game is prob over outside of some type of protection or prevention. If he is scum and shoots town. We still get another dayphase. I can't think of a better option than this.


if he is scum and the game goes to tomorrow, the game is over.


so yeah, I am fine with noon tomorrow. Full claim, with actions and see if we can solve from there. We need as much context as we can in case david was the recruit. If he is mafia, this is basically mylo.


are you okay with this


again someone triple check my math, but I can't think of another way that covers all our bases.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

That is fine. Just a waste


only other reason to do that is if you are baiting a nk. You aren't claiming pgo so we have to assume the recruit went through and if you come out and claim bomb or beloved, I am prob death tunneling you.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

We also need to here from supa or skep. I don't think they have posted once this game.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

That really seemed like a soft of a power role.


Either way we need to prob full claim. We need to set a time and all claim at the same time or popcorn. Don't think we have a choice given davids role.



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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

I also dislike this. I know it's a possibility but the way you feigned saying not to protect you or whatever you said heavily implied you had a power role. Assuming you were saying that to make mafia not target you.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

What would be an anti recruit role? I don't think there is something that just makes a recruit die. Unless it's a pgo or something. Like in theory casey could have tried to recruit a pgo and just died but that seems not likely and someone would claim it. Kinda doing occams razor.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

A recruit role really fucks with the game. There has to be some balance to it.


I doubt there is a TP as well (with a mafia recruit) unless there is just 1 mafia, but it's the way people word things. The way he worded that was in the affirmative.


" It is 6-2" - Which there are only 7 players so that's odd off the bat. But the "it is" followed by 2 mafia can often imply knowledge that should not be there. Not saying that is definitive but that is typically a TMI post.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

It’s 6-2 right now


Ngl this bothers the fuck out of me too. There is not even consideration of a TP, or some other scenario. It's an affirmative statement.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

Assuming 2 scum


we have 7 players so (5-2)


if mislynch 6 players (4-2)


If a Nk goes through 5 players (3-2)




if we kill kohai tomorrow and he is scum 4 players (3-1)

he shoots someone 3 players (2-1)

If a Nk goes through 2 players (1-1) Game over



is this not correct?



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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

Math wise, if hes scum and alive tomorrow the game is over. Check me, but I've checked it twice. Assuming there is no nk preventions.


yes you need to claim first because you should know I targeted you and that also makes me uneasy.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

Based on math, if you are scum and are alive tomorrow. If there are no NK preventions, we lose. My gut is uneasy with that. But the fact you are so adamant about not being recruited and saying it so openly, makes me townread you for some reason. It's just odd to keep pointing it out as much as you are. It's like noob town.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

unlikely based on how a role stopping mechanic would work. Role would only trigger if it was successful. At least it would be stupid if she killed herself and the action did not go off. I can't see a world where a Mod would process something in that order.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

That is disgusting and also adds a layer of complexity to this that I really need to think on.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

It's largely irrelevant as the flip changes everything.


Pie is prob one of the harder ones from DP1 based on a certain post but he could have got recruited. I also dislike that he is saying he received nothing from me. Castin pings me as semi town based on her not reading the flip. So that is the only thing I have going after DP1. Game is basically a hard reset. As I mentioned it could be feigned but it seemed genuine


A large portion of the others have been inactive. Role confirmation means nothing so at some point we are going to have to look at why people targeted who they targeted and if that lines up with their behavior and if it's consistent with other results.


I really am scared of you tbh. You had already claimed vengeful Dp1 so you are the logical mafia recruit (you mentioned this also). I am not sure if this is feigned either. But logically based you would make the most sense to grab as it is a free kill if you ever get targeted for a lynch.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

He was one of my stronger town reads DP1 behaviorally. I really dislike that he is saying he cannot confirm my action.

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Alien Mafia DP2

Mikal · a year ago

If I claim, we should really look at just full claiming at some point and I am not claiming before pie does. It will give him leverage to wiggle out of something and I am not doing that.