It’s not complex at all. I also don’t think hes new new. His mannerisms and terminology are better than a brand new player and he likely could have had help. The character also just does not make sense as bullet proof at all. The justification is awful. I have such an in-depth justification for my role and character that I do not buy that in the slightest
Should be l-1
if there is a mafia popular again and wf fake claimed caroler to line up with it. It’s a very good play. It’s possible but doubt it.
I’ve listed out the three scenarios above in another post and I think we need to start with the Poe in the results. It’s just to much to buy that wf is scum and ending the game on a caroler fk. I see why he has to push it though because if he’s claiming to lynch off the read list, he will eventually die. So he’s trying to invalidate it.
VTl Thoth
don’t like the claim or the character thematically. Also the crown and bp thing makes very little sense.
It’s not omgus it’s just scum will likely jump on a wagon when it’s convenient and you are refusing to believe my reasoning so I am not going to beat a dead horse. Already explained my thought process and if people don’t believe it not much I can do. Typically think town you would entertain reaction tests or pushes.
i realize I’m the likely lynch and I think scum will go for the low hanging fruit. It’s also not a dare or whatever. I just don’t care to rage or bitch at town. If town is insistent on playing bad, that’s on them. Helps the Poe regardless. I’m having a lynch slid at me when I’ve openly stated results, reasoning, my role, and my character. When 2 of the other people who got listed has claimed literally nothing. So if town is that dumb, then what can you do.
im surprised everyone keeps looking at my way when I have explained my logic multiple times. I knew wf didn’t get results and wanted to lock him into something so he could not backtrack or alter. All he said was “when did I say I had results”. If forced to claim and he was scum there is a chance he could have tried to fabricate something and I had the ability to cc.
I think wf is town. The reason I wanted to test rt was because if he is scum and we believe him, the game is over
very unlikely - wf and rt are scum and made this up
more possible- wf is town and rt is scum
most likely and what I think - both are prob town blocked.
I just wanted to test again before we went down the rabbit hole and killed ourselves on the off chance 2 is possible.
also my role is actually powerful. It confirms a role. You know how many games cop has been a fc or mafia can fake claim results. It allows us to mostly town lock someone unless you assume I and that person are scum
past that because it’s not a dreamer and a caroler. I’m assuming partial balance because I can results if I target the person who is caroled ( if I targeted rt and not wf)
wf targeting David makes sense as popular can’t move and wf wanted to confirm his result but would stick.
i think there is one between shining and Thoth. I mostly buy the dreamer result and will buy it more if we rest popular again. All of David’s tmi bothers me and would rather confirm that there isn’t a 1x use or some weird mafia thing. Affiliation is not confirmation. Surprised Luna does not bite with this as we have discussed it multiple times
so
shinning and Thoth
and second is between Luna ultra and skep
at least initial thoughts. I would assume someone pushing me is scum. I buy wf is town but I don’t I’ll say I really dislike how he town reads but is willing not to defend me and let me die. Seems like town cred farming but I’d have to do mental gymnastics to think he’s scum as it would mean him and David have to be the team. Think that’s unlikely
Low-key it kinda feels good to die when town plays shitty lol.
I do think wf is a lock but is prob dead anyway. Both of the people looking at me also like to dominate the game by taking out people who talk and try to have thoughts.
but yeah wf is town. Prob dies and when he does look at the Poe shinning or Thoth
other could be Luna or skep.
I’m fine with dying if we want to start with me in the Poe. Busy anyway since I’m catching up with vaca
if we go that way, look at Luna.
Im berdley, so it’s not light vs dark split. I’m just to lazy to argue against my lynch but I do think scum would push it.
I clarified specifically why I pushed wf, and why I’m wanting to test rt. If RT is scum, those dreamer results could run us into the ground. I think that’s unlikely but it’s possible and wanted to see if wf would claim a result so I could cc.
but yeah, I don’t have the energy or care enough to make a case. If you lynch me, you lose a strong investigation role.
I’m heavily leaning Thoth over shining. Something shining said made me lean town towards him a bit. It’s not really AI but it show he said it, read me as genuine. Prob will land on Thoth if the popular works again
I am, slightly. I buy wf. I wanted to see if he fake claimed some result because I knew he didn’t have any and he was claiming a visiting role.
i think it’s very likely wf is town based on his responses and I think it’s somewhat likely rt is town. I’d rather the test the popular again because of how he’s had tmi a few times. But if popular works again, I’m okay with going shinning or Thoth.
i will admit I’m very confused about the split. It’s not dark vs light or queen and king vs all.
All the above analysis is weird
1) wf is scum - rt would also have to be scum
2) wf is town - rt could be town but also could be scum and lying about the 3 people he got
3) rt has had some very weird tmi info
test his popular again, if it sticks. It’s more likely to be true. I am pretty hard locked on wf so if the popular is confirmed again, we pick between Thoth and shinning.
I've already soft claimed too much so I won't reveal my character or gender. I feel like it may have been better if I didn't make it bold.
84 froM dp1 also just bleeds tmi
Wf is def near town locked for me. The way he handled the pressure. Responded and general logic really comes off as town and very similar to last game
keep in mind you are town and he can mafia lying about the results. I think it’s unlikely but I do want to see if that role has stuck.
There is some weird tmi stuff for sure. May have mentioned this earlier. Happened last day phase as well. I have you town locked and I’m interested to see if it sticks.
I only did popular mafia to teach town a lesson about affiliation last game. But something about RT bothers me. If we test and it works again. Im
happy to leave it alone for now.
He tested it. But I’ve seen 1x popular mafia as a way to help them in the past. Popular should only deactivate at mylo lylo
If it works. I’m good with situationally town blocking David and wf
VTL RT
i want to retest this popular first
Asked Casey. I can’t get results off whiteflame but I target his target, I would learn those results. Makes sense from
a balance perspective
I buy wf
I also buy David
I’ll trust the dreamer result given how wf has played and it makes since from balance. So it’s shining or Thoth
David I love you but lord your reads are all over the place sometimes lol.
I’m the beholder. I get informative information back if I target an information role. I was told
you did not receive information. You implied you were visiting someone, so I wanted to see if you were going to lie and fake claim a result.
can you claim a result?
It’s not light vs dark but I do think that functions as a soft claim for you.
Because I’d prefer not to say what I have until I see inconsistency in information that is provided.
What is your result ?
1) I don’t trust a dreamer outright. It’s something to consider
2) I didn’t say it implicates you. I said I had something on you and want your role and not your character.
I also totally missed the mark with the theme. Not sure what the theme is tbh. Once we see a flip, we probably can solve it.
I will after he role claims
I have some info on wf and I was not sus on McDonald’s
I want a claim from wf
and I don’t want to say why
