The only reason we are not pushing is because we can afford to. On odd you always have to lynch to maximize the number of chances. But given the structure of the game and number of players. It’s advantageous to go into the np with mafia having little to nothing to work on
Fun fact: In English, Queen Speaks With Every Word Capitalized Like This. Since this doesn't really translate into Japanese, in the Japanese localization, all her dialogue starts with '' . This is how comments are notated in HTML!
this mentioned queen
king is big bad chapter 1
queen is big bad chapter 2
this is likely the mafia combo
to note king and queen had lancer
lancer starts out bad and turns good. My assumption is that they can fuck with his mechanics
susie also betrays the good guys - so that is another possible person who can be fucked with. Joins lancer temp
as lancer starts bad in chapter 1.berdley starts bad in chapter 2 and flips good
saying all this out loud because I suspect. Susie, berdley, and lancer are all town and they are the ones king and queen can fuck with
"If you didn't know, an evil ruler is taking over this world. I don't really like politics, so I have no opinion on this."
This is a king quote
my assumption is king and queen are mafia
Also to note. I deep dived the lore to this with yt.
so my theory based on the op and what Rex pointed out is that queen is mafia. Most of the characters in this game start bad and then convert to good once they are beaten. Lancer, queen, etc. Even Susie betrays the main character at points. I think the quotes Casey is giving outlines the mechanics. One said queen chose someone. Didn’t piece this together u til Rex pointed it out but I do wonder if mafia has a recruit mechanic to certain characters. That or can disrupt them.
52 58 and 84
no more hard of soft claims. TMI
pushes me and Wylted after saying this
into 84 also tmi
he never is saying or explaining why he thinks it’s a bad idea to soft or full claim. Rex is the first person to do this and points back to the op. I would have missed this if Rex didn’t say it.
Also reading back on this, I do not like RT. Popular or not. The way he said he refused to claim anything past his role without even acknowledging why he had that logic reads as TMI
Also reading back on this, I do not like RT. Popular or not. The way he said he refused to claim anything past his role without even acknowledging why he had that logic reads as TMI
Also I said supa cus I thought rt wss supa. Saw a anime profile picture and similar mannerisms.
but yeah I’m a fan of vtnl
fully disagree with pushing for anything else. We need to press activity in the following Dayphase. Myself included. We will get nothing out of a claim at this point as the Dayphase is ending soon and won’t have enough time to do anything with it. It will only give scum info
let’s move this along. And pressure tomorrow once we see if there are results.
I do agree with Rex. I think there is likely scum on the bandwagons for pressure. Mod indicated mechanics could negatively impact town for full claiming so (yes) there needs to be a way to move the game along so doing is that is NAI but assuming the op is referring to full claiming can have negative draw backs, they absolutely would take advantage of that
To clarify I’m not saying lynch him for being new. I’m saying get a claim from the new player and you do that by pressure
I just noticed this is 10 players so a vtnl is feasible. If we want to vtnl, we do that with no additional info and move along
if we want to pressure someone, there should be a lunch. It’s pointless to get a claim then vtnl. It’s ammo for scum so we need to do one or the other
with it being 10 and lack of activity
vtnl
I agree I am. I’m just saying it’s uncommon for you.
Town lean rex
little sus on Luna with activity
Thoth initially pinged hard as noobtown until he said he’s asked noon questions for cred before
personally I’d like to pressure McDonald’s on super. Super because he’s dogshit at fake claiming and McDonald’s because he’s new.if we have to move the game along, I’d rather lock in a claim from a person who is more likely to blunder a fake claim
that being said I think rex is right. Op implies full claiming likely gives mafia some sort of edge and I can totally see this being a thing with the theme. Like full claiming a character and mafia having a character that fucks with that character. Queen as mafia for example.
we do have to pick someone to move the day along with and I’d rather it be a newer player
You are drawing the same inference I am
why will you not reveal a character? I’d like to see your justification personally. If you already outed your role then what is the harm in full claiming?
unless op was implying. Claiming characters could affect something in the op
No I was sitting at an airport in Atlanta and glanced at the game. Since I’m always a prime target and was not active, figured I’d clarify.
can you confirm this was 6/6 and the VTL and unvote in the same post made it 6/6
Okay done with travel and back around. Just got off woke and will catch up shortly.
Will not be able to post today. Just getting off vacation and on flights all day but should be back tomorrow. As soon as I get home I’m crashing.
It was interesting to see how impacted the game was with the mason chat. I feel like it adds a layer of trust that isn’t present in most games. Would like to explore it more as it reduces the post count and encourages ways to solve the game. There is more balancing to work out with it though
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10zP0hXx_2VlfCwB3exd4-cI4FukeL1nu-QDUKAvfbqQ/edit?usp=sharing
Mafia Victory Recap
Pie
Casey
Supa / RT
Resolution Clarification:
I was on vacation and didn’t have my computer, so just clarifying how this resolved:
After the super lynch, the game reached a 3-2 state. Skep had tracked Casey to the whiteflame kill but was injured. At that point, if either Casey or Pie had died, it wouldn’t have changed the outcome, it would still be 3-1 in favor of mafia.
The next Night Phase, the mafia pre-locked a kill on Ragnar. With Skep injured and unable to act, both Ragnar and Skep would die, leaving either Casey or Pie (whoever lived) against Earth. The only possible out for town would’ve been if Earth had delayed his PGO ability, which could’ve led to a delayed kill during the following NP after everyone was dead. But even with that, the next phase would still result in at least one mafia remaining alive, ensuring a mafia win.
The core idea behind this setup was to give town a lot of roles, but ones with anti-town utility, to cause confusion and punish bad reads.
Town's only real investigative roles were:
They had just one protection role and a BP. Despite town having 3–4 JOATs, if they used their actions poorly or targeted wrong, mafia would benefit heavily. Additionally, several town roles had scummy optics by design, such as Beloved, Hider, Role Stealer which could naturally lead to misreads.
Mafia setup included:
A lost wolf who didn’t know who his team was or they didn’t know who he was
So while mafia didn’t have a large number of roles, the town was prone to self-sabotage through misleading role claims and actions. Roles like WFS and Icon’s were intentionally scummy in appearance.
Masons and Communication:
Mason PMs were included as a fun way to give town an edge and help with PoE. I wanted to test how a role madness game would play out with anti-town utility combined with constant communication. It created a dynamic where you had to really trust someone or lie to them to keep your actions hidden.
This was likely the most actively posted mafia game in the history of site even compared to the old DDO days. Despite the low post count most communication was through discord. There were over 5,000 Discord messages during the game, not including the forum thread.
If I could redo anything, I’d remove the injury mechanic. It was way too swingy. But hey, live and learn.
Hands down the MVP of the game. Had the game fully solved and played a phenomenal game.
Town had some awful situations. Icon having to be lynched due to not speaking English or trolling. Plus the lynch on David. Weirdly I felt like this game was more mafia sided than town just because of all the chaos town could cause on themselves but town started very behind because of those two things. Not to mention the mafia pgo posioner which I think could have been sued more creatively. With proper Poe it could be in favor of mafia. Mafia did a good job at calling the correct actions and narrowing it down to solve. Also Mharm was clutch telling Ragnar to deflect or the game would have ended then.
Srop posting
RT has been lynched
flip will be next Dayphase
4/7 - whiteflame Ragnar Rex rt
going to end the Dayphase at around 9 est pm tomorrow night. Giving time for people to catch up since we needed a replacement and I’ve been on vaca
On vaca all week. Will read through tonight and get a vote count.
David is replacing supa
Graveyard
Icon
Frogger (Released 1981)
An arcade classic centered around a simple yet tense premise: guide a frog safely across a busy highway and a treacherous river full of logs and crocodiles. Time and timing are critical as you hop forward while avoiding obstacles. The game’s repetitive but addictive gameplay highlights the danger of standing still,
you must keep moving or lose. Your survival depends on quick decisions and constant vigilance. This relentless drive to move and react fast shapes your role in the game, where hesitation can be fatal.
Ability:
You must visit a player each night. If that player is the mafia's kill target, you die along with them.
Win Condition: You win with the Town.
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Lunatic - ?????????
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RT
Chrono Trigger (Released 1995)
Considered one of the greatest JRPGs of all time, Chrono Trigger tells the epic story of Crono, a brave young hero who embarks on a journey through time itself. Using the time machine Epoch, Crono travels between eras,past, present, and future, to prevent the apocalyptic rise of the monstrous Lavos. The game’s innovative battle system, memorable cast, and multiple endings have cemented it as a classic. The weight of time rests on Crono’s shoulders, and your actions ripple through history, affecting the fate of the world. If you die, time stands still
Ability:
Win Condition: You win with the Town.
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Living Players
DP2
With 8 alive, it takes 5 to lynch
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TIME STAND STILLS AND WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT NP
TIME STANDS STILL FOR 2 DAYPHASES. WE WILL HAVE 2 CONSECUTIVE NIGHT PHASES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8cPBUazeAXo
Stop posting till I can get home and verify
Yes on phone , will you revote? Sorry.
RationalTheist- 2/5 RF, iLikePie5
Pie - 1/5 - Supa
Rex - 1/5 RT
Casey - 2/5 Mharm, wf
approx 6 Hours remaining
To be clear the item was already handed out
To be clear the item was already handed out
