Misterio

Well, Iran and Trump agreed a ceasefire. The peace negotiations are coming about hopefully in a week or so.

I think it's worthless to strike Iran again because there is nothing left to strike, except the basic insfrastructure. With that level of destruction, Iran will be busy rebuilding their country instead of retaking their nuclear project.

Hope Israel comply with the ceasefire, nobody knows what these nazi jews can do.

I think a military and country can be made stronger by war,

We engage in a conflict, see our capabilities and our enemies capabilities.

By said conflict we are able to restructure our military to be more efficient.

Or to find corruption in the military industry.

I think that the American military power is overestimated. I mean, there is too much money invested in weeapons that it's very easy to corrupt government officials. You'll find dirty things going on in there.

Egads man, go look up the definition of the word marine, it is "of, found in, or produced by the sea." The US Marines primarily function as an amphibious force-in-readiness, providing a rapid-response combat force for maritime and expeditionary warfare. OORAH!

It's those punk ass Army guys that are "meant to fight on the ground, not on the sea."

While 'marine' is semantically associated with the sea, the marines' role are not on the sea but on the ground. They use the sea, or even the air, as a path to reach their objective. So, the marines sent to Iran are for taking over a territory (or an Island as it seems to be in this case).

This explanation is also for @fauxlaw.

History tells us that old Dictators tend to get more entrenched, irrational and deluded.

Trump is not a dictator, but yeah, he's acting erratically which is a sign of despair. It's clear that the US is not doing well in Iran.

You really believe that, don't you? Ever hear the Marines Hymn: "From the halls of Montezuma, To the shores of Tripoli, We fight our country's battles In the air, on land and sea." Their "terrain" is all of Earth, Semper Fidelis, my friend. I ignored the rest of your blather after reading that.

I'm refering specifically to this war. Iran has no troops in the sea, so who are these marines going to fight against? It's obvious they'll go in.

Besides, two US fighter jets were taken down in Iranian ground. What were these jets doing in Iran? It's obvious they were doing recognition before doing an invasion.

You're probably too young to remember when the ideologically inspired US went of to Asia to sort out those vile commie Vietnamese.

I don't need to be old like you or @fauxlaw to know how the events ocurred.

Though you are saying truth, the US is acting right now as the US that invaded Vietnam, or even worse. According to some seers, the energy crisis will get worse and there will be a social crisis in the US because of that.

All depends on Trump. Hope he can see it more clearly.

Trump is sending marines to the Middle East [specifically to Strait of Hormuz] to protect commercial ships carrying oil specifically to Europe because Europe refuses to participate in the defense of their products. We don't need oil through the Strait, but Europe desperately needs it. Trump is shaming Europe for their refusal to protect their own product. There will be much due from Europe to the US come the time to demand it from them, or Trump may just wash his hands of NATO, and goodbye, NATO. We don't need NATO; Europe does, and our bill to them will come due for our protrection of their chicken shit cowardice. Neither Oba'a nor Biden, nor any other current flippant Demo would or will do that. They think like Europe, admire Europe more than ourselves. Who needs them? Any of them?

You don't need marines to protect the Strait. Marines are meant to fight on the ground, not on the sea.

All the same, it's a terrible error to send soldiers to the Middle East. I mean, it's unnecesary, the US don't need to get involved in a useless war that only benefits the nazi jews. Trump will pay it politically, and that's not good for those who support the fight against progressivism, like me.

Oh, boo hoo. Trump has no in tent of invading Iran, which would me3an a significant boots-on-the-ground force. That is not his plan, but merely7 to take out their military to the extent that they have near zero ability to wage even conventional warfare with anybody, let alone us or Israel. Have a modicum of reality.

And why Trump is sending thousands of marines to the Middle East? To make a party?

The best battle the US can give is the guerrilla warfare. Sending costly armament is useless today.

Hey Misterio...The best way to "face" alternative cultures is to treat them as not American...America, the gun ravaged, second largest, self righteous hoarder of nuclear warheads, led by a megalomaniacal nut job.

I am not criticizing Iranians for how they live. They can do with their lives whatever they want. I'm just warning what would happen if the West let these mother fuckers go on with their stupid religious plan to destroy the West. These people only think in religous wars.

I wouldn't mind if they wipe Israel out of this world to be honest, but I'm really worry about what they can do with the rest of the world. You must know a little bit about history, that in the Middle Ages the muslims expanded over all north Africa, even occupying part of Spain. So, yes, Iran is a danger for Europe and America.

Haha...Go sort out Russia...No...Playground bullies never mess with the big boys...Trump just wants to bully the little guys in to handing over their sweeties...Which was what he did in Venezuela

Bullying? Dude, Iran is not a "little guy", it's a regional power in the middle east along with Israel. Nobody dares to mess up with Iran. Can you imagine if they got nuclear bombs? No surprise all the apocalytic prophecies point to those goat fuckers as the initiators of the end of the world.

Trump got too much overconfident. If he doesn't realize about his mistake, the US will pay the consequences.

Millions of zealots? You act like the ordinary Iranian people, who are opposed to the now virtually defunct regime, were and are in favor of that regime. No, /and what makes you think Trump wants a protracted war to take over Iran? He's never said that and is not aiming to con tin ue a protracted war in Iran. Stop listening to MessNBC, or at least take in other news sources.

Around 20% of Iranians are in favour of that regime, so these fucking radical people that don't have self esteem are 18 millions. I don't know why it is that, maybe it's nature's whim to always create 20% of retarded that complicate our lives . In Venezuela is the same, 20% of fkn idiots in favour of a miserable life. I mean, they are not majority but are enough stupid, violent and extreme to take over a whole country.

On the other side, Trump is planning on invading Iran, it's the only way to beat these goat fuckers. That's why I say it's a bad idea to occupy Iran because this regime has been waiting this moment for 50 years. They are ready and the US not.

Every president since Carter, who effectively winked, then blinked, at Iran's rise to an ill-gotten power, willed that Iran's nuclear ambitions be quelled, but only Trump had the balls to do it.

Honestly, I am not against Trump attacking Iran. We all know the Ayatolla is a threat for everyone who lives in the West. Those goat fuckers are sick people, demonic, and are willing to set the whole world on fire

The problem is that Trump is getting carried away by the last victories in Venezuela and Cuba. Iran is not the same. These people, who are counted in millions, are zealots and have no fear to die. Besides, Iran has a vast territory which is difficult to take over. Some analysts are saying that Trump doesn't have any plan and some generals are quitting because Trump is not hearing their advices. It seems that Trump is only hearing the Jews.

The best thing Trump can do is to avoid a second Vietnam. There must be other ways to face an enemy like Iran.

Worse than Epstein.

I don't know if that it's true but from what I know, Epstein was very likely a spy of the Mossad.

Right now, the number one enemy of the United States is Israel and the zionists. According to some pandits, Israel has gathered compromising information from important people in the United States and Europe so that they can use it to their advantage. Almost the same modus operandi of Russians.

I've said it once, the zionists and the jews in general are untrustable. It's good that people have self confidence but the level of self confidence in the jews is unhealthy and perverse, they can have the same mentality as nazis. Maybe the zionists have Trump by the balls with some information about Epstein. We don't know.

"I was really excited about what Trump has been accomplishing so far" Really?

"Trump was really an example of how to fight against progressivism and the woke culture" Was he?

Yes. Maybe you can't see it because you're used to the shitty wokism that has been implemented all over Europe, but in America we're not used to it. We are actually fed up with politicians that spend our money to finance sex changes or try to impose a new fkn language that they call inclusive.

And most importantly, Trump is ending socialism in all the continent, not just beating Venezuela but also Cuba which is the root of all the problems in Latinamerica and the United States. So, it's not small thing.

As of now, all the analysts are advising that scalating the war in Iran would be the biggest mistake for America. It's evident that there is no benefit for the US to engage in this war, except for Israel that wants to expand their territory. I understand that the jews have a strong influence on America but not to this level. We don't even know who's the boss.

Damn it. I was really excited about what Trump has been acomplishing so far, specially for what he is doing in Latinamerica, but if he doesn't keep his promise of not making war any more I think this would be the end of MAGA. Trump was really an example of how to fight against progressivism and the woke culture, I don't know what we would do without a figure like him.

I hope he puts the jews away and starts making good decisions for the good of all America, but if he decides to go on, he will become the useful idiot of zionists.

Don't see it happening. That would be stupid.

I think Trump is using his comments as a mantra to make it come true. If you say something for sure as though you are going to do it no matter what, it will materialise.

Trump is doing what he has to do.

By the way, he didn't start any war, he just got into Venezuela to abduct the gorilla Nicolas Maduro. Once the job was done, the US military forces left the country.

Not much to explain.

"Misterio" means "Mistery". I'm in this forum after mistery topics, especially about ufos.

I had different usernames previously, so I don't like to use the same username over and over again because it's boring. I'm in fact planning on changing my real name because I don't like it anymore.

That was good news for all the latinos. We were so fed up with many Venezuelans getting into our countries bringing their fucking customs and criminality.

Unfortunately, Maduro was not the big fish. He was only a puppet of the Cubans and the Venezuelan communist military. So, if Trump really wants to put in order that country, he has to drop some bombs over the main high-ranking military officers' houses. He also has to free Cuba from communism.

There is something wrong with the social media you're using then.

It seems that Democrats can't deal with Trump being in charge of the US now.

But let's concur with just one thing, Trump is the result of what Democrats have been doing so far to the US. They have deployed bit by bit the progressivism in the US, the political correcteness, the wokeness, and Americans were just getting fed up with this because they were suffering the consequences and they decided to choose an extreme choice, because you need extreme solutions for extreme problems.

So, to me it's really pathetic that a Democratic affiliate comes here to say that Trump is destroying the US when they were the ones who started to destroy it first.

There are *rare* spontaneous remissions in medicine, but they're not linked to psychological catharsis.

I'm afraid to say that there is no such thing as "miracles" through praying. In the end, it's all about the mind.

Even the aliens remark that the human biology has been designed to attain high levels of mind control, which means we can heal our own bodies through the mind. That's why aliens suggest to practice meditation in order to achieve that. Praying also works but through meditation we can have better results. In fact, there are also a lot of similar cases in non religious people that practice meditation.

People call it miracle because they don't understand what's going on, but the explanation is based on the fact that we are not just matter but also energy. You can find this in the buddhist cultures, all this stuff about chakras and the like. Even aliens confirm the existence of these chakras or energy centers. I remember that there were scientific investigations about it trying to determine an energy map of the human body which can tell if a person is sick or not. According to buddhism, if the chakras are unbalanced, the person can develop a disease.

I remember a case of a man that also cured himself of a cancer, no praying needed. He just decided to rent a lot of comedy movies and treat his cancer with laughter. It worked at the end. So, if someone who prays can heal it's because his mind has attained the same level of relaxation a medidator's mind attains.

A contradiction in the bible? What a surprise. Lol.

Most of the diseases come from the mind, meaning that it's the result of repressed feelings.

I don't have time to put the sources but I heard if a person relieves the pain or trauma he has in his unconsciousness, the disease dissapears "magically".

No genius. what I just explained is that those who help drug traffickers are criminals, and criminals are subject to law enforcement, not a military strike.

Do you understand the difference between how we deal with criminals vs how we deal with enemy combatants? Yes or No?

I'm not sure if you are not paying attention or you are simply dodging my arguments in order to "win". I remind you that this is a forum where all the posters put forth their arguments for consideration, though you don't give a sht about our arguments.

I said that Venezuela set up a plan to send drugs to the US in order to undermine their society. I also said that behind this plan is Cuba, a communist country. Furthermore, Russia and Hezbollah (the armed wing of Iran) also participate in these actions to weaken the US. So, it's not about "poor sailors" that are helping drug traffickers, it's a whole international organization that uses, among other things, the drug trafficking as a weapon against the US. This is the main argument that Trump uses to consider those muthafuckers as terrorists.

Have you never heard of a devils advocate debate? Pretend that’s what this is. Pretend I am a Trump nut licker who is testing you to see if you can refute dumb left wing talking points. Go on, show us what you got.

I think I know what your problem is. Look, I'm not here wasting my fkn time just to defeat someone. As I said, this is a forum, and what we do here is to interchange ideas in order to find the truth. I'm not here to win anything, this is not a contest. If you want to test your argumentative abilities why don't you just go to the debate section and stop wasting my precious time?

Let me repeat once again; the criticism isn’t that the secretary of defense ordered the strike, it’s that the administration’s account is not trustworthy due to being a silly explanation in its own, being one of multiple different accounts offered, and coming from the most pathological lying administration we’ve ever seen.

As I said, I'm not a lawyer to make a full analysis of something that I barely understand. HOWEVER, my commonsense tells me that a president of the most powerful nation in the world might have a lot of legal advisers behind that tell him what he can do or not. Maybe you should try first to understand Trump's plan for the US and Latin America, so I suggest you to read a recent document the US government released about this matter.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/2025-National-Security-Strategy.pdf

I don't give a fk if Noah's flood is hearsay, I'm refering to the deluge as a general event not necessarily related to a specific culture.

Meanwhile, I think the best explanation for a worldwide flood is the arrival of a meteor that shakes the planet and causes a massive destruction all around the world.

If anyone here wants to expand their knowledge about it, there you have the predictions of Edcar Cayce, or if you know Spanish, you also have the predictions of Benjamin Solari Parravicini.

When a meteor hits the Earth, the whole planet slightly spins, provoking the change of the poles. This sudden shake also causes a great tsunami covering most of the lands in the planet (except the highlands) for a time, but when the waters return to their place, some lands end up covered while other lands that were covered get exposed, reconfiguring the world map.

This is why some civilitizations got lost, they were covered by the water. Other civilizations were covered by the ice after being placed in the poles, that's why some people think there is a civilization under the ice of the Antartic.

So, there is no water addition or substraction, the water just moved, exposing some lands and covering others.

No, it’s not, but thank you for clarifying the issue. You do not know the difference between the purpose of military vs law enforcement, or between a criminal vs a terrorist. You might want to try Google or ChatGPT. They can help you with that.

So, for you those who help drug traffickers are not drug traffickers but humble poor sailors. Right?

Get out of here, bald man.

Baseless and therefore meaningless. But you typed words, so congrats.

It's not meaningless. You can't call out a known communist to make an informed unbiased report about Cuba, for example.

We can't take your arguments seriously because you already have a bias against Trump. You loathe the orange man.

You haven’t made a single rational argument this entire conversation, all you’ve done is dismissed every argument I’ve made as the product of bias without even an attempt to explain how or why.

Do you think that what you've just typed is true only because you say it?

I repeat once again because you seem to be a bit slow to understand. The Secretary of War didn't order any attack on the survivors, let alone Trump. Does it need to be investigated? Of course, but don't judge beforehand when you don't know all the facts.

Though, what is important to know so far is that Trump didn't order the second attack otherwise that would be used against him by the Democrats.

There is scientific evidence that a worldwide flood came about, and the most compelling explanation for that is that a meteor hit the earth and caused the great flood. Then, it's very unlikely that a continous heavy rain triggered the flood, so the bible is wrong about it, no surprise.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XFQ2sKQh2JM

The most interesting thing about it is that this flood buried previous civilizations, the most known the Atlantis which Plato referred to in his writings.

I can't help saying that this meteor was planned by the fkn aliens as a planetary reset. The aliens are doing an experiment in the Earth and when it doesn't get on as they expected, they reset the planet sending a meteor that wipes out everything. If you check the predictions of Edgar Cayce, there is supposed to be a second flood for our times, but according to the fkn aliens, they changed their mind and there won't be a planetary reset. I mean, there will be a reset, but only of the system (religious, politic, economy, education, health, etc).

Correct, and that’s why we have law enforcement agencies… to enforce laws, aka to address criminality. The military exists to protect us from enemy combatants, to which criminality does not cover.

It's the same sht, just replace criminals with terrorists, and police with military, or whatever the US use for that.

The general in charge already explained what happened, but if I were an American, I wouldn't worry about it since the US always do whatever the fk they want. Of course, you only complain when Trump is in the government, but if a Democrat were the president, you'd be full of praise for him.

Was never part of this conversation. Stay with me.

I has a lot to do with the conversation because your hatred against Trump make you biased.

You have responded to not a single word of any of that, opting to instead vapidly tell me I’m just repeating what I’m told.

I said that the general in charge of the military operations confirmed there was no order to kill the survivors. So, your wet dream of seeing Trump behind bars will never become real.

Trafficking drugs to the US does not meet any reasonable definition of the word terrorist. That’s a heavy label that requires evidentiary support, this administration has yet to offer a drop of it.

Are you a lawyer or something of that sort? I wouldn't dare to analize this from a legal perspective because I'm not a lawyer but from a prosaic point of view I can say that those who help criminals ARE ALSO CRIMINALS.