RemyBrown

-> it's called lying in order to manipulate people into accepting a political viewpoint

How can you tell what is true/false? The FDA tells you to eat a lot of carbs. Trust nobody.

-> There is a very big difference between cheering the murder of a single individual who is viewed as responsible for spreading a dangerous and hateful ideology, vs wishing fort the deaths of over 200 million people. Both are abhorrent, but the former doesn't come close to the latter so asserting it with no evidence of a connection is ridiculous.

All conservatives spread beliefs the left argues are dangerous and hateful. Don’t kill 200 million people.

-> Well at least we're admitting that the political right in this country is a fascist movement. That's progress, I guess...

What it used to be:

You said the right was facsist and I denied it.

Once I learned how you defined fascism (having any right wing opinion), the Overton window shifted:

I support Facsism and you don’t. I will let you water down the definition of facsism so it encompasses more people.

-> No serious person said that.

I’ve heard from transgender activists that the right wants to murder them for being trans (which maybe some do, but I don’t want to murder transgenders for being against the first amendment). I just hate them for being against the first amendment on the personal level and I do NOT want to murder them over it; I just hope they become irrelevant on YT.

-> A rape victim is a person who actually got raped. What happened with Kirk is that he (the individual) was killed by a deranged kid. You didn't get killed.

Obviously rape victims suffered more than ME. BUT they suffered less than Charlie Kirk because getting murdered is worse than getting raped. Getting raped is (obviously) worse than dealing with childish minded trans people on the internet. But murder is worse than rape. I’d rather get raped 100x than get murdered.

-> Not only because retaliation Isa normal concern in any situation such as this, but because it's the right salivating at the prospect of going to war with many claiming we are at war.

If the right was mass murdering leftists en masse (even the petty transgender leftists), then I would probably flat out join your side. I voted against Trump in 2024. But if the, “going to war” against the ideologically conformist left was merely retaliatory disassociations and firings, then I’m on board 100%.

-> Hitler barked, the dogs did the rounding up and killing and the sheep bleated.

When you are a leader, ordering = acting.

-> Karl Marx spent so much time hating his opponents that he forgot to write what Communism is

The issue with Marx isn’t that he wrote the communist manifesto; the issue is he wanted to kill all who disagreed with him enough (the communist revolution had a lot of deaths).

Killing based on political disagreement is unacceptable.

->This is so incredibly stupid. I wouldn't even take this post seriously but it actually does reflect much of what we are seeing on the political right these days.

2 people liked it; it's serious; get used to it; the Overton window shifts with time.

->So naturally, when your political movement runs purely on propaganda

Propaganda is awesome (it's called a dramatic opinion).

->Wanting a person who has significant influence within a vile political movement to die doesn't = equal "I want to commit genocide".

How could someone want Kirk to die for his opinions and not want rando conservatives on the street to die for their opinions?

Kirk has 5 million subs.

A rando conservative YTer has 1k subs.

How big is big enough to justify getting shot? If all sizes are fine, then they would want to murder conservatives to take out fascist viewpoints (aka right wing viewpoints).

->The crackdowns on free speech, the overt victimization

"Overt victimization" is claiming the right wants to murder you over a bathroom disagreement. The victimization here is more justified than a rape victim's victimization (because murder is worse than rape and anyone that disagrees has an invalid opinion because they did not experience both and survive to tell people about it).

But your whole essay is a nothing burger.

The majority of Americans are proud to be whack jobs and the fact that you can't prove why that's bad shows that it's good to be a whack job!

-> The fact that they are often born with a vagina and have no idea themselves let alone anyone else that there's anything different about them. So sure, call them a male if you want, at that point your pronouns are utterly meaningless.

The right could call them a male. If a dude is in the Aussie outback and they get their dick bitten off by a rabid dingo, and they somehow survive, then they aren't a woman.

->Are we talking about genitals? Then Caitlin Jenner is a a female.

The left says some women have dicks and the right thinks Jenner is a male. Nobody supports genitalia absolutism.

->Are we talking about a uterous? Plenty of biological "women" are born without them.

Nobody uses that as a definition (intersex people have both).

->Are we talking about what gender they live their lives in accordance with? Cause the political right outright rejects that definition.

What does it mean to live life as a female/male? Some men like barbies and some women like guns.

->"We" is society, and whatever the majority of people decide to call it would qualify for the most part, but if a significant portion (I'd say anything around 30% or more)

1. So if democracy rules (because you love democracy), then wouldn't that apply here?
2. It's not 30%; it's 18% according to Ipsos.
3. That 18% relies almost exclusively on identitarianism (which is inconsistent as then you can identify as a deer, but that doesn't make you a deer)?

->And leftists just want for USA to be Communist utopia like North Korea, China and Venezuela.

Don't care; you can't kill people for your political ideology.

Hitler had a utopia as well; it doesn't justify genocide.

A lot of left wingers in America have worse morality than Hitler. If you believe saying, "Transwomen are men" should get you the death sentence, then you're worse than Hitler because that will result in more people getting killed than the death toll from the Holocaust.

->They have many different characters with different ways of talking.

What different styles are there? It's naive vs tough and for me, I notice a dichotomy.

Imagine a woman's talking style and imagine a male emulates it. It seems very easy to do because there is little difference (other than pitch) between Ariana Grande and James Charles.

->And there it is. AIS is a condition where many people born with it grow up being raised as a female and don't even know there's anything unusual until they hit puberty. But in your mind, that's a male plain and simple.

What would be the issue with calling an AIS person a male?

->By other definitions they don't.

But what are the other definitions?

->As many as we decide to define.

Who is, "we"? And how many have they decided to define? Because the majority of "we" has answered 2 with chromosome absolutism.

Democracy!

Hitler killed 10 million people. If he had no political power, then he would merely WISH that 10 million people would die.

A lot of left wingers support murdering Kirk because of his political views. They would WISH for every conservative and independent to get murdered (because of the belief that the conservatives and independents are filled with hatred and fascism).

This is 200 million or so people vs Hitler’s 10 million.

A lot of left wingers have worse morality than Hitler.

Alright.

How does a girlfriend talking to me make me feel better? They talk with too much sugar.

I prefer the talking styles of AOC and Danielle Smith over Ariana Grande.

-> Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome

There is the precense of a Y chromosome, so male.

->How about you define it since this is your topic.

Precense of Y = Male; else, female.

->TW = TW. 

So then neither, then? You are saying that TW aren't men or women.

->You continue to try and place everything into two neat buckets as if there are no other options. 

Well, how many genders are there? Base it off of the precense of the Y chromosome for humans.

->You know who disagrees with you? Nature.

In Nature, Lions don't even identify as lions. Someone with XY that identifies as a woman will call themselves a TW; but this requires talking; something animals don't do.

-> Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome

There is the precense of a Y chromosome, so male.

->How about you define it since this is your topic.

Precense of Y = Male; else, female.

->TW = TW. 

So then neither, then? You are saying that TW aren't men or women.

->You continue to try and place everything into two neat buckets as if there are no other options. 

Well, how many genders are there? Base it off of the precense of the Y chromosome for humans.

->You know who disagrees with you? Nature.

In Nature, Lions don't even identify as lions. Someone with XY that identifies as a woman will call themselves a TW; but this requires talking; something animals don't do.

1. ->Talks to you when you want, about what you want.
2. Loves you unconditionally
3. You can turn her off once she becomes boring
4. You can reset her back to starting point.
5. You can have multiple AI girlfriends
6. Some are very smart.

How is this different than Chat GPT?

How are they useful to me? How is a gf useful to me?

-> Scientific research throughout the last decade has demonstrated that being transgender can have a lot to do with the health of the brain and the rest of the nervous system.

Who has the healthier brain, men or women? Answer: Depends on the man and woman in question.

->So good for you to settle on one simple definition

Does the person have a Y chromosome? If yes, then the right says they are a male. Else, the right says they're female.

->No, it's when the right claims that the left is doing these things that people listen to the propaganda and go vote republican.

Well, one of 2 things are possible:

1. The left says that they don't believe that TWAW anymore and that they're men to concede the culture war (which they seem they want to do).
2. They fight the culture war because they believe that TWAW.

Either option they can select, but select one.

->So good for you to settle on one simple definition, but too bad it's meaningless when it comes to settling the public debate around trans people.

What is a woman? If you can't define what a woman is, then just claim that TW are men and then you can eliminate the culture war. Obama won states like FL (and he didn't lean into the transgender crap). He leans into economics, denounces the crazy pro cancel culture crowd and he wins.

->Have you ever heard a TW say "I'm a TW"?

They claim to be women.

->I think TW are TW

Is a TW a man, woman, or somebody else?

Mandami to conservative NYC immigrants (who voted democrat with Obama, Clinton, and Biden when they were a conservative party due to immigration, but Mandami is no conservative and a lot of them got their citizenship and feel so integrated with America (especially their kids who were born here) that Mandami flies stuff like this in immigrant NYC):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-eevWRE9AY

(Anti identarian). Flying the American flag by it's self is an anti identarian statement, the, "we are all Americans" and will call segregation racist, but the label racist has to be tough to earn, not loosely given.

Mandami to his base:

https://www.instagram.com/p/DKzpfHaOT1s/?hl=en.

He calls a dark beard racist (more identarian than what I've ever seen before).

And anyone that hates Cuomo over SA convictions should understand that they are getting mad at someone over a misdemeanor that occurred 3 years ago.

Misdemeanors that occurred 3 years ago are forgivable; stupid race baiting in your current campaign isn't.

Cuomo > Mandami.

How? You gain testosterone. Although if you were born with XX and raised as a man, then you might turn out tougher.

->The second is consistently reinforced affirmation. If my position is wrong, someone would be able to show me how or why. 

Alright.

If someone tells you, "If Y chromosome, then male, else female", then how do you respond to someone who believes the CDC and all medical entities will say what they get paid to say (so they don't trust medical organizations)?

->2024 proved not only the absurd extent of this but also it's effectiveness. That really makes me feel sad for this country. 

Then concede the issue. Obama didn't enter office claiming that TWAW and he won states like Florida and Ohio.

But when the left does things that upset normies, then they lose states like these to DeSantis and Vance.

so if you try and convince a person of color like me that TWAW. -> Already started to you that this is not my position, nor is this the position of the overwhelming majority of trans activists. It's yet another caricature you guys invented.

Oh; so if you don't believe that TWAW, then you think TW are men then, correct?

->This is yet another example of where you guys cherry pick rando's on Twitter or Bluesky so you can claim that is "the left". 

This person I knew from real life, not social media.

Transgenders have this very Trumpian mentality of, "I don't care what anyone thinks of my ideas so my beliefs are unchangeable" so it really makes it so they don't accept criticism. It also leads to them saying flat out stupid things.

I'm willing to accept Trump as crazy and insane if you also do the same thing with transgenders.

->That's crazy work.

Did you see the reason?

->Apparently burning the US flag is legal and burning the Israel flag is illegal. In the US. That should be something I believe.

Legalize both.

I should also add that the majority of blacks are transphobic; so if you try and convince a person of color like me that TWAW; then it's viewed as "whitewashing", "colonization", "Anglo Imperialism" (transgenderism is white culture and the blacks that join in are Oreos).

Blacks in America feel more connected to Africa than to white culture in the states homie.

Wakanda forever!

-> I do it for the intellectual exercise

Then do a sudoku or something.

->No, that's how English interprets the definition. It isn't just that the words make that unequivocally clear, it's also common sense in how you apply such a term. If you don't know that it's no wonder you believe the silly things you do.

Alright; so lets then forum debate, "Is transphobia good?" where I take the "yes" position and you take the "no" position.

->The person who believes in and studies epistemology (something you have clearly never done)

I've studied epistemology. Quiz me for proof.

->The side stepping, the strawmanning, the denial of basic facts

Facts are the opinions of rich and powerful people that they use the CDC to back up (on anything controversial). Gravity is not controversial; politics is.

->It teaches me more and more about the world I live in

What makes you so sure that you're right and everyone else is wrong instead of vice versa?

And why are you so passionate about a minority position that doesn't impact you?

Do you have like a trans partner or something?

If so, then I won't call you gay over it; but come up with better arguments; otherwise, you will have to conceal them like what Obama did with Michelle (Michelle was born a dude).

->Enjoying arguing with caricatures

Transgenders are caricatures of the left. One that I knew thought I was sexist for saying that men are stronger than women on average. They argued that any woman can be as physically strong as any man; maybe even stronger than any man (personal life, not rando on the internet). It's because from their perspective, becoming feminine is about conforming to feminine stereotypes and they tend to be younger (so more pro technological progress); so they apply that conformity to other areas (ex: leftism and progressivism).

I see why they do it, but it is cultish and stupid.

I'm racist against Indians and Nigerians that I don't know.

I'd rather do a voice call with a child rapist than a strange Indian or Nigerian that I don't know; at least the child rapist I know won't scam me. I'd rather my kids be around a strange Indian or Nigerian than a child rapist though. Calling a child rapist is harmless to me, even if they're a shitty person.

There are 2 types of men on this:

1. The men who will call you out on it. You think they are the reason because you think arguing is worse than murder.
2. The men who will say, "I respect your answer" or flat out be self hating men and say that they prefer the bear over the man. They just hope to lie to you for sex/validation (they know you are bullshitting but will lie for your approval). They don't mean what they say; but they want to fuck you (unless they're gay or ace, but then they want validation from women and are willing to be pick me's to achieve that) and are willing to lie to achieve that. This group of men is worse than the 1st; at least the 1st group is honest.

But women are anti-male sexists for answering this (and it's fine to be sexist if you own it). But then normalize sexism. That's all.

Being straight is sexism. You prefer one gender over the other. Preferences are a euphemism for discrimination. If you prefer pizza over burgers, then you discriminate against the burger for inclusion in your diet in that instance.

If you are going to be sexist, then own it. That's all. Own it, and become lesbian or asexual (because you prefer women to bears and bears to men, so therefore, you prefer women to men).

I've become asexual because I think women's personalities are unfuckable and men's bodies are unfuckable. I'm breaking my porn addiction gradually.

If you are a woman and choose the bear, then own your sexism and become lesbian. You have voting rights, therefore, your thoughts have weight and your words have consequences.

Any woman that verbally changes their mind I just won't believe and I would think they are lying to me for companionship. I will assume this of all women, even if they never fell for the man/bear question because so many of them did.

Artificial wombs should be developed so women's wombs are no longer necessary for species reproduction. Then women can turn into men and trade their aesthetics for productivity.

Nope; I steelmanned your party, and this website is bad for your mental health; you should quit it.

->I'm not trying to win people over. We're on a debate site

You debate people to change their minds.

->If there were better arguments against my position I'm sure I would find them on a place like this, that's why I come here.

On the trans issue, if there is a bad argument, then you refute it, if there is a good argument, then you label it as transphobic. Saying, "The right has a definition for a woman, the left doesn't" is a common sense argument.

->Wow, even after quoting the definition you still don't know what the word means or how to apply it. You don't get to label trans people as bigots.

That's how you interpret that definition. The right wingers interpret it as viewing the trans people as the bigots and the MAGA people as the factual ones.

That's why I don't care about official definitions for scary but legal terms; you can interpret definitions however you want too for your selective purpose.

If a bigot is defined as "Bigot: a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief", then the trans people think Matt Walsh is unreasonably attached to their belief (so a bigot), Matt Walsh thinks the trans people are unreasonably attached to their belief (so a bigot), and the word becomes meaningless because it's not the law, but the enforcement of the law (except the law is the definition). BLM will use that slogan a lot.

If you dig deep enough on anyone, then you will find out, everyone's broken the law. There are laws where it's a felony to insult a horse. The people who nitpick scary definitions and laws (aka illegal definitions) are some of the most hypocritical and arrogant people on the planet.

->No one said, argued, or suggested that all it takes to qualify as a fascist is one authoritarian opinion.

That's cap; there have been plenty that believe that but don't realize it.

They will say, "Legalize free speech but crack down on hate speech. Right wingers are fine, but not Nazis".

When they realize that all right wing speech is hate speech, they end up thinking, "Now, I don't want to affiliate with conservatives, libertarians, or anyone with even one right wing opinion." They don't go saying, "Arrest them!", but they do the most that they can legally do which is, "I don't affiliate with right wingers anymore, even if only one of their opinions are right wing; it's too hateful for me".

That is how NYC becomes battleground. That is why they canceled Dave Chapelle (BLM activist who is right wing on trans stuff). That is why they canceled Cenk Uygur (who supported Marian Williamson). The left hated Musk before he was an open Nazi; they hated him for buying Twitter to protect free speech (even though they're an environmental activist and made EVs).

If the left tries to undo this cancel culture, then it won't feel genuine as to them, they would have to give in to views that they think are fascism, and the politicians will easily do this, but the voters can't because it hurts their heart to do it.

-> So if you're going to accuse me of not thinking for myself then you need to come with evidence of me parroting talking points I don't understand 

I could do this, and then you will claim that your talking points are not actually you parroting anything and it's what you actually believe. Everything you say I will think you are being a left wing parroted and you (in your mind) will be genuinely convinced that your beliefs are really yours. The brainwashed don't see themselves as brainwashed.

If Fox and CNN make a claim (Fox says Item A is good, CNN says Item A is bad), then do you really think your odds of viewing Item A well is about 50%? No; it's 0%.

->If you can't do that then you have nothing but mindless and rehearsed retorts which makes talking to you a huge waste of time.

You talking to all non-leftists about politics is a waste of time. I'm wasting my time talking to you, but I find it fun. You find it a chore.

You won't change the minds of right wingers. If you hate talking to right wingers while knowing that they will stay transphobic and homophobic and fascist no matter what you tell them, then maybe debating isn't for you. Enjoy a Discord game. Enjoy spending time with family and friends. If you're into hockey, then spend your free time playing hockey.

Politics and changing people's mind isn't for you because you find non-leftist's political views tiring; accept it and move on.