RemyBrown

If I was desperate for attention, then I would be calling black people the N word (hard er). I would only do that to a black person if they deserved it (for example: I met one black person who was defending legalizing mass shootings for mentally ill people, and they were a hard er. I understand though that virtually every black person would never do something like that, so I'm not going to claim that all or even the majority of black people are crazy.) But Chris Rock (in 1996; before Trump, so it can' be grifting and with an audience where virtually everyone was black) said this:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3PJF0YE-x4

RemyBrown

->What is a generic black person, other than a generic black person or just a generic person?


Several traits. A better question would be, "Do you think blacks tend to do X more than the general population?". I wouldn't accuse the blacks of being pet eaters because that's just retarted, but they tend to like rap music (which isn't immoral because music tastes are music tastes, but I tend to prefer country rock).

RemyBrown

->I would expect "transgenders"


Alright; so you put transgenders in quotes because you don't think they are really trans? I'm not mad, but that's a right wing move on the issue (it may just be the normal position here).


->So Remy, how would you sub-categorize yourself?


I believe every culture relative to others, has pros and cons. Trans people are extremely sensitive, but they are also very computer savvy. Black people are the opposite. I try and copy the black culture with a thick skin and the trans culture with computer savviness.


I think women (relative to men) make worse decisions about finances and better decisions about who to have sex with.


I take the best from every culture and incorporate it into myself.

RemyBrown

->Transgender is a problem with white people because 55% identify as White.


Oh, so you (democrat) are saying transgenders are a problem. Alright; I wouldn't expect a democrat to say that.


I don't care about the racial composition; I care about their attitude. You piss off too many normies; you lose the democrat party (which you need to win elections).


This video explains the democrat party perfectly:


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_1fdDz2MNxg


I would add another thing: Define what a woman is in a consistent way or give up your movement; concede it; don't rely on the, "It's culture war" stuff that was the right wing argument 5 years ago. Answer Matt Walsh'es question in a way that stands up to scrutiny or give up and focus on ending police brutality or something.

RemyBrown

87% of black people voted against Trump in 2024; among FBA people, it might have been 92%, because the blacks that are immigrants are often MAGA.


It's not because FBAs are this disease that should be eliminated. It's because their culture influenced how Trump acts. You don't see any Trump like figures in any other western country (not based on policy, but vibes).


Trump roasts people. Trump uses nicknames for people. You don't see Putin saying, "Loco Zelensky". You don't see Danielle Smith using terms like, "Crazy Carney" or, "Tye dye Treadeau". But you will hear Trump saying, "Meatball Ron".


That is a black move; and it's funny.

RemyBrown

->You are actually just reconstructing second hand information in accordance with your established way of thinking, aren't you?


Not really, if there is an exception with a group, then I treat them like an exception. I assume generic black people vote democrat (which is not immoral), but if a black person talks about how much they love capitalism and guns, then I don't disparage them for a right wing opinion. If they are anti BLM, then I ask why (while leaving race out of it).


You are treated like the norm until I spot reason to treat you like an exception.

RemyBrown

Yeah; that's why I put both groups in there. If I said, "Why rednecks are better than transgenders.", then the statement gets viewed as being partisan hacky.


But you want to know something that will make you hate a lot of black people (probably the majority):


Blacks are the most transphobic racial group in the country.



So essentially, despite both blacks and trans voting for democrats, trans people are pro BLM, black people are not pro transgenderism. Not even close.


Immigrants last election voted more for trump than the white voters in their precincts.


The following image certainly applies:



Would you rather stand with BLM or LGBT? Because once the LGBT community finds out about this, they will either have to advocate for the rights of people who won't reciprocate (and if blacks ever get reparations and quaified immunity federally gone thanks to the LGBT community, then the FBA will say, "Thank you transwomen for your help. You fought for us like real men") and when they get labeled evil sellouts, FBAs will go to conservatives after that (and being even more pro transphobic before because they will feel like the dominant society) (and this means the LGBT will have to advocate for the human rights of Matt Walsh supporters who certainly don't reciprocate) OR they have to stop being pro BLM (and if this happens, then FBA blacks will go republican or 3rd party because neither party would be pro BLM at that point, weakening the left coalition).


Immigrants are already out of the democrat coalition given how right wing Hispanics and Asians voted relative to 2020.

RemyBrown

From my experience:


  1. If you tell a black person, "end police brutality and climate change is a hoax!", then they often say, "I respect that". Black people are open minded (even if they lean left), they realize people are going to disagree; they may refute what you say, but black people don't get violent over a disagreement that doesn't concern them.
  2. If you tell a trans person, "transwomen are women and climate change is a hoax!", then they often say, "You are trying to show cover for FACSISM!! FUCK YOU NAZI SCUM!!!!". Trans people think they are open minded (because feeling open minded feels a lot better than being close minded).


Black people don't look to be offended; trans people do. The non-binary people I met are actually some of the good transgenders; they are non-binary on the gender spectrum and they realize that some people are politically free thinkers (which they code as nonbinary).


THIS is why I hope the democrat in 2028 calls transgenders delusional scumbags. This song speaks facts (although he makes it about Israel, I extend this to other issues):


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRVauA-rzdE


And, the politicians like Pete Buttigieg and Zohran Mandami steelmanning aren't enough; the street left wingers have to copy Pete and Zohran.


They both have 0 people blocked on BlueSky for example:


https://clearsky.app/petebuttigieg.bsky.social/blocking

https://clearsky.app/zohrankmamdani.bsky.social/blocking


You chase people away, Trump and MAGA absorbs them; simple.

RemyBrown

Everyone is a minority. White men are a minority in America (28% of the population). Straight white men are a minority (25%). Straight white conservative men are a minority (15%).


Trump got 50% of the popular vote. Therefore, 70% of the people that voted for Trump were people other than straight white men, 50% of Trump supporters were people who were other than straight whites.


The terms, "person of color" and, "white person" are outdated. 2/3 main ethnic groups of color (Asians, Hispanics) voted largely for Trump in 2024. There was a slight lead for democrats in Hispanics and Asians, but only because they tend to live in blue states where the people vote blue anyways (adjusted state by state, Hispanics and Asians voted in line with the state on average (meaning if a state in 2024 voted 55% for Trump, then Hispanics and Asians in that state usually voted about 55% for Trump)). When factoring in that Hispanics and Asians tend to live in the urban parts of those states (liberal), then Hispanic and Asians precinct by precinct usually voted to the right of the whites in those precincts; the white conservatives live in the rural areas of that state.


The new terms are, "People of Conquered" (POC) (FBAs, Natives) and, "The Dominant Society" (TDS) (Whites, Hispanics, Asians, Black immigrants). POCs were conquered people by land theft or slavery. TDS came here because they are capitalists and America is founded on capitalism.


Different history; different mentalities; different voting interests.

RemyBrown

->You're entire approach to identifying fascism is off. Fascism isn't a black or white issue where one is either a fascist or not a fascist with nothing in between. We're not talking about something like pregnancy with a nice either/or answer, we're talking about what point the term can be used meaningfully.


Meaningfully implies an either/or.


What should happen is a point system. Every trait that can lead to fascism, assign it a certain number of points and if a certain threshold is reached, then it would be facsist.


->First off all, everyone wants content or people they find objectionable to be cancelled (Colin Kaepernick anyone?) so "those viewpoints" are prevalent within every side, thus you are voting them no matter who you vote for.


I voted libertarian in 2020 and 2024; I didn't do that. Let Colin Kaepernick kneel.


->The first trait (authoritarianism) I would argue is essential, because fascism is basically a category of authoritarianism. None of the other traits would make sense of we took that first one away.


->While fascism is often thought of as an ideology, I think it's actually better thought of as a strategy (more likely guided by impulse) to achieve authoritarianism. 


So you are saying authoritarianism is a requirement for fascism, but fascism is a gateway to authoritarianism? That's like saying eggs are essential to make a cake while also saying having a cake is a strategy to eventually achieve getting eggs (that came after the cake was produced). It makes no sense.


->The side that supports government locking up students for protesting or writing a critical op ed, the side that supports punishing universities for not teaching what the government thinks they should


If there was a science teacher that wanted to teach about something the government doesn't think they should (ex: transgenderism for either side), then a lot of governments would prosecute them for doing it (usually not by jail, but by firing). Voters become control freaks when their kids get involved; kids are drugs.



RemyBrown

Question: What is the correlation (r value) between the physical strength of Blacks (Group A) vs Jews (Group B)?


Naive person: The r value between the physical strength of Group A and B is 0.

Xenophobe: The r value between the physical strength of Group A and B is 1.

Realist: The r value between the physical strength of Group A and B is in between 0 and 1.


RemyBrown

->Funny thing. I’ve yet, in over 7 decades, heard a group of people speak with one voice, and I doubt seriously a single one of the “groups” you identify have spoken to you, personally. Starving for attention?


How long will it take to get to your thick boomer head that if I say, "Jews are academic", it doesn't mean every Jew. It means, "Jews tend to be more academic than other groups"?


Question: Are Jews smarter than Gentiles?


Naive person: The r value between Intelligence and whether you are Jewish or Gentile is 0.

Xenophobe: The r value between Intelligence and whether you are Jewish or Gentile is 1.


Realist: The r value between Intelligence and whether you are Jewish or Gentile is somewhere in between 0 and 1.

RemyBrown

->Would you like it if someone talked to you like that?


With text, the way you deliver a message only is relevant on the low IQ of every race. People can say whatever they want about me. I care if it's true, not if it feels good.


->Come along now, if you stop being a naughty little misogynistic antisemite I'll buy you an ice cream cone on Sunday.


You don't know where I live and I'm vegan; that's impossible and nonconsensual. And if I'm an anti semite for saying that, then 2 people liked my comment and 1 liked yours; the majority of people here are anti semites then. Labels don't mean anything anymore.



RemyBrown

->When do you generally talk to these groups?


The same reason liberals talk about Florida and they're like, "Fuck this state and fuck their people for being transphobes!". There are trans allies in Florida and TX, but they are the minority. Exceptions are treated like exceptions; but being a pattern recognizer is a useful skill in the world. And virtually everyone is a pattern recognizer; if that wasn't the case, then we all would be pansexual or asexual, as being heterosexual or homosexual would imply that you sexually discriminate based on gender because you notice patterns from men and women that indicate who you are attracted too.


There is nothing wrong with discrimination, and it's optimal if those who discriminate are open about it like heterosexuals and homosexuals. Then anyone who is aware of it knows in advance that they aren't welcome in a particular context and ten go where they are wanted. If Chick Fil A discriminates against homosexuals, then a homosexual wouldn't want to work there.

RemyBrown

->I consider myself more right than left, but, politically, I'm an Indy.


What left wing beliefs do you have? If you are pro Trump, then you are on the right (which is not bad, but just be honest).


->Remy ignores that there are left Repubs and right Demos.


What is the definition of a left Repub vs right demo in a way that mutually seperates them as well as the right Repubs and left Demos?



RemyBrown

->You are redefining "right wing" to simply mean anyone who is pro-Trump, as opposed to its previously and commonly understood meaning. Then, you get mad because this newly redefined group is redefining "Communism" to something other than its previously and commonly understood meaning.


Except I'm not mad at a group that redefines what communism is as long as they are upfront with their new definition.

RemyBrown

I'm fine with taking their word for it.


If the label, "communist" applies to a very large portion of the population, then it's no longer a scary insult. If it applies to a fringe portion of the population, then it can't actually represent Zohran Mandami because Zohran is objectively not fringe. I'm indifferent as to if, "communist" represents large parts of the country while not being insulting or insulting while representing solely the fringe.



RemyBrown

Generally speaking, when I talk to these groups, they talk to me as if I'm 3 years old.


Lets hear some of them:


Jerry Springer (Jew)

Gay guy

Therapists are the same way

Women do this too


I'm an adult; talk to me like I'm an adult; your voices are too god damn condescending and they make me have a physical sensation to feel stupid, infantile, and Juvenile.


Here are some role models for the women, therapists, gays, and Jews (party affiliation not considered):


Good vibed Jew

Good vibed gay

Good vibed woman

Good vibed therapist

RemyBrown

Authoritarianism

Charismatic leader:

Demonization/Scapegoating of the “other” (perhaps MAGA’s most prominent trait):

Glorification of force

Suppression of dissent


Your definition has 5 traits. Are 100% of them required to become a fascist? Or can you have 20% and it still counts as fascist? What % of these traits are required to become a fascist?


->These principals are only espoused when it aligns with their views, which is to say they’re not principals at all.


So then is hypocrisy a tenant of fascism?


->Cancellations only occur when a significant portion of society agrees, that’s called the free market, that’s exactly how the system is supposed to work. Authoritarianism is bad because it defies how the system is supposed to work.


Alright; so you are saying cancel culture is fine as long as it's individuals doing the canceling and not the government? I can respect that standard, but I'm worried that these individuals might elect a government that enacts those viewpoints that they have (they are very strong views).


Trump is like that for the right, but he's the devil we know (and a devil with dementia). Hitler needed a fully function brain to do his genocide; Trump doesn't have that.

RemyBrown

->And who is "the right" that you are referring to? 


Anybody that is pro Trump.


Pro Trump = Right wing. Anti Trump = Left wing.

RemyBrown

->The day he first announced that he was running for president and called Mexicans criminals and rapists. 


So, him calling Mexicans an inaccurate and mean name made him a fascist? If Obama deported more harmless undocumented immigrants than Trump and if I'm Mexican and undocumented, then I'm thinking:


  1. "Mean name and higher odds of staying here vs nice name and higher odds of being deported? I'll take the former."


Mean names don't matter if they aren't coupled with mean policy (and in 2016; urban areas and the south west voted more blue than 2012, but mean names don't matter; mean actions do, which is why in 2020, non-tap dancing Hispanics turned out redder than 2016 as the rest of the country shifted blue once they lived through Trump and saw that Obama did it more.). They tended to respect Trump's honesty.


->The test of when such a label would apply is when the behavior is extreme.


I agree. But lets say 0 is as left as you can go and 100 is as right wing as you can go. Lets say 90 or higher is fascist and 10 or lower is communist. Why is it 90 and not 89 or 91? Conversely, why is 10 the communist marker and not 9 or 11? It's an arbitrary line at the end of the day. I'd rather label people's beliefs as, "Pro X" or, "Anti X" very specifically. If someone wants abortion illegal/legal, then I call them Anti (Abortion Legalization), Pro (Abortion Legalization). PAL and ANAL. Doing ANAL reduces abortion.


->When any Republican takes a position against him, he doesn’t respond by pleading his case and arguing why he is right and why his position is better for the people he purportedly serves, no, he responds by attacking them personally and threatening to primary them.


Trump did that with Cheney and Harris did it with RFK. Neither should have kicked them out. But every politician in the DEM or GOP primary that wasn't Trump or Biden/Harris takes a position against them (who's the better nominee). But both Trump and Biden are debate dodgers (ie, they don't defend their positions).


->All deportations are equally bad

This is just plain stupid. You might as well argue that all theft is equally bad, so the guy who once stole a candy bar and the guy who professionally robs banks are the same.


I would argue deporting a mass murderer is the same as deporting a harmless undocumented immigrant; the ladder should be left alone, and the former is useful because they have organs that can be harvested right after beheadings without painkillers to save black people's lives (and really anyone else that needs the organs).


->It’s built into human nature and can be exploited, that’s why fascism and authoritarian experts have been ringing the alarm bells about Trump for years.


How would you remove something like this from human nature? We got to copy Canada's education system. I think if Hitler tried to win in Canada, then he would flop. I know they got free healthcare, but healthcare extends your life; you can have an extremely healthy body and still be an idiot.


->We’ve been talking about this for days now. What’s stopping you from reaching a conclusion?


I'm worried that normies might be classified as fascist. Like, a lot of people were calling Matt Walsh a fascist over him ASKING, "What is a woman?" He wasn't saying, "Murder the transgenders." He wasn't saying, "Bomb San Francisco."


He was asking a question, and people called him a fascist over him asking questions. There was this woman that thought I was a Nazi because I agreed with Israel (and I'm not talking about agreeing with Israel over Palestine, I mean giving Israel credit for building desalination plants). She was talking about desalination plants "stealing water from the fishes". If being pro desalination plants makes me a fascist, then I'm a fascist and so is virtually everybody.


The annoying thing is as much as the left wants the right to call out Nazis, virtually no left winger would call out the crazy woman who argued that desalination plants are depriving fish of their natural recourse (aka water).


->If you don’t like my definition you are free to do your own research and offer an alternative.


My definition of fascist is anyone with at least one right wing opinion (so virtually everyone would be a fascist and I'm fine with being one of them).


->That aside, fascism is explicitly a political ideology, so I don’t think religious ideology even applies.


If Donald Trump tomorrow claimed to be the 2nd coming of Jesus (and used his failed assassination attempt that hit his ear that healed pretty quickly as proof), then MAGA becomes a religion.


There are 2 types of cult leaders:


  1. Those that claim they are inspired by God and are his messenger. This turns into a religion (Jesus, Mohammod, Bhudda).
  2. Those that don't claim they are inspired by God and are his messenger. This turns into a personality fad (Napoleon, Hitler, Khan).


Religions + personality fads=Cults.


All those people that followed Beyonce; you could argue Beyonce was a personality fad, but she never ran for office. But if she did, then you know there would be a bunch of women that would stand by her no matter what (just like what you see with Trump).


-> Regardless, I wouldn’t argue that religions are not fascistic


Jesus 2000 years ago was leading the Christianity fascist cult. But he died, so his members had kids who didn't take it as seriously as they did, and you pass through several generations, being a member of the Christianity cult is something that you need clubs for.


If Trump claimed to be God, then in 200 years, maybe there will be meetings for people who follow Trumpian Christianity (and the commonalities between Trump's beliefs and Jesus's are irrelevant; the word, "Christian" is in there for marketing pourposes). Lets just say circumisision seems like a very cult like thing to do to babies.


At least Trump's cult doesn't make you bodily suffer to join. Trump's cult has open borders; anyone can join; Jesus'es cult does not.



RemyBrown

It's not even that. If a communist actually got rich off of that exact same process, then the right would hate them and the left would love them if they were talking about how bad Trump is.