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I suspect kicking jews out of the region would just cause muslims to start expanding and start flocking more to the united states and other western countries doing more october 7th type shit


Doubt that. Palestinians seem like they are the only Muslims that want to stay in the sandbox. The Israelis on the other hand would cream their pants if they got to pack them all up and fedex them to Europe and America so they can expand their territory. Always thought it was bizarre and insane how people on the right in the US look at Israel and think that they have American's best interests at heart when they would swamp us with third world fanatics at the drop of a hat to rid themselves of their problems. If Israelis got finger-snapped to another plane of existence tomorrow like the Dwemer in Elder Scrolls and all that land was empty you'd definitely see less Arab immigration to the West. Not to mention the large amounts of displacement fueled by Israeli foreign policy goals causing conflicts and destruction in the region.


Most of the Muslim immigrants swamping the UK for example are from Pakistan anyway. They aren't even from the Levant, many people who come from the Levant are Christians looking for better living conditions or fleeing Israeli oppression.

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On the Kimmel thing, most of these late-night shows are dying because their audience is literally dying. There's a reason that they're seen as passe, stale, and unentertaining - the only people still watching them are entering the twilight of their lives, and the show caters to whatever audience still has cable in 2025. Humor is evolving at a whiplash pace, with memes going through ten permutations online before Kimmel can wrap is mind around the first. The world has moved on.


On that shooting thing - are we really still pretending that Israel didn't have at least something to do with it?

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What fiction book was most influential/pivotal to your ideological development? Not your favorite or the most difficult book, but which one most changed how you viewed the world.


For me it's probably Cat's Cradle by Vonnegut. The formulation of religion/ideology as a way to make a necessary 'leap' to crystalize a sudden understanding of the world without even necessarily being true allowed me to make a large amount of progress in understanding how humans actually 'work'. It took me out of this arrogance that I had been wallowing in by making me realize that my supposedly neutral, objective view also had a framing and a context which I didn't build. It was consistent with itself but insulated me from the world by serving as the frame through which I viewed it. And all people have such a framing and can 'snap' from one to another when they have a crisis of faith. I also realized that it's almost impossible to exist without one, and that the closest you can come to objectivity is to just notice that the frame is there and accept it as a function of human psychology and a part of normal human limitations. One of my favorite quotes to this day is still from that novel:


Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly

Man got to sit and wonder 'why, why, why?'

Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land

Man got to tell himself he understand.

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Male produces sperm, female produces eggs

No evidence for this either.


"Not to know of what things one should demand demonstration, and of what one should not, argues want of education."

  1. Aristotle, Metaphysics


Male and female are terms which humans have come up with to describe individuals based on gamete type. Whether you're talking about moss, mammals, mold, or moths, this is quite literally the definition of the term - whether one produces sperm (small, mobile gamete) or eggs (large, immobile gamete).

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and honestly even beyond just him there’s just something wrong with generations born post 1980. I really don’t know what it is or how to put it better than that but it ain’t looking good really.


So many millennials have a messianic complex which is severely off-putting. They reek of smugness, are impervious to reason, and simply regurgitate whatever was last shitted down their throat by the rest of their social media feed, most of whom received the information in the same way. Wit used to be something you had, a reflection of intelligence and a quick, mercurial verbal instinct. Now 'wit' is just repeating ad nauseum that same stupid snarky quip you've seen 10,000 times from every other idiot on your social media feed. For a generation that supposedly hates the boomers they are basically becoming them, just with even less redeeming qualities.

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Non of these refute my main point, especially as we get to military grade weapons which is where most gun control advocates like myself feel far more strongly about the lack of regulations.

Military grade weapons pretty much universally have full auto and/or burst capabilities (M4A1, M27, M7, M16, etc), and guns that would qualify for that are heavily regulated in the US at the federal level. They have to be registered with the ATF, and the ATF banned their manufacture for civilian use in 1986. So there is an incredibly limited supply of them out there, as they have to have been in circulation before that date and all of those are tracked very assiduously. And this doesn't even take state law into account - many states flat-out ban such weapons even if they comply with federal law. While the fee is nominal ($200), the extremely restricted supply of these guns means that they can be over 20K and cost multiple times what a civilian rifle like the AR-15 would.


The main issue that most gun owners have with ardent gun control advocates is that they clearly know quite literally nothing about guns, don't care to know anything about them, but still feel fit to weigh in on how they ought to be regulated with no small amount of fervor.

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You can 'snipe' someone with any long-range rifle used for hunting. These rifles are also the least regulated even in countries with strict gun control policies because they're used for sport. You'd have to be literally insane to go around thinking about it unless you're the president or something. The last sniper killings I can recall were the DC sniper killings and those were ages ago. Most mass shooters use semi-auto rifles like the AR or AK, but even mass shooters are a tiny, tiny minority of all shooters. The vast majority of gun homicides employ handguns, as they are both semiautomatic and easily concealed, and it's also why handguns are the most restricted class of weapons outside military-grade in countries with strict gun control.

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Broad hostility toward identity groups—especially when unrelated to a cogent argument—may result in penalties.
Accounts operating chiefly to provoke through identity-based rhetoric will be sanctioned, regardless of technical compliance.

Ehhh this I don't like. A lot of people have broad hostility towards identify groups. A gay person might have broad hostility to Muslims and/or Christians. An Israeli might have broad hostility towards Palestinians. A Christian might have what could be construed as broad hostility towards LGBT whatever it is now. A lot of people in the West right now could be understood to have broad hostility towards the Chinese or Russians. Most people who argue about religion might fit this definition, and judging by most online religious discussion 'cogent arguments' is often a stretch in those cases. Having 'broad hostility' to some group or another seems to be part and parcel of the human condition, and trying to tamp down on it will inevitably result in selective enforcement, especially if the standard is something as subjective as whether their arguments are 'cogent' or not. Just let people argue their points, don't police whether or not those points are singling out any broad and gauzily-defined 'identity group'.


The first 'What's Not' in the table also directly contradicts the later points about what is exempted from moderation, specifically this point:

The following examples do not merit moderator intervention:

Use of non-identity-based slurs not directed as personal attacks.
Non-slur insults (e.g., "moron") even if directed at users who have blocked or disengaged from the speaker.


Seems odd to imply that any insults are not okay and then say later on that insults do not merit moderator intervention.


Other than that it seems good. Also made me chuckle a few times.

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People say that school shooters often target their bullies. Why not arm and train the bullies then? Have each school have a bully militia, to keep the peace and nip any school shooters coming after them in the bud?

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Yeah I hate Ulfric

He was actually one of my favorite characters because I found him to be very complex. Clearly brave, as he could have remained with the Greybeards but went to war out of a real sense of duty. A soldier who bled for the Empire and then returned home to find his people sold out to secure the empire's peace and buy time. Was captured and tortured, broke under torture, and then was lied to and told that the information he gave lead to the fall of the city his men died protecting. Goes to battle again to secure freedom to worship Talos and attempts to strongarm the Legion to allow freedom. They at first claim to do so, then stab him in the back and imprison him. His father dies while he's imprisoned. He becomes Jarl and then kills the young king in his duel with him, which I believe was genuinely an accident. Is captured again and escapes.


I really liked his character because, historically, this is what the leaders of rebellions are like. They're often broken people with a desperate cause, and that's exactly what they made Ulfric.

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I usually play as an elf and become a Stormcloak. I'm One of the Good Ones™. I like to imagine the other soldiers' confusion when the High Elf Vampire Lord Necromancer screams SKYRIM FOR THE NORDS and then raises their fallen comrades to shamble into battle once more.


Though I did once do a playthrough where I roleplayed as a Thalmor and went Imperial.

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Question 1: What should be the default rules for AI in Debate Arguments?


Option 3: A middle ground

Prohibited from copying and pasting directly, but permitted to research, review, find sources, simulate rebuttals, etc.


Question 2: What should be the punishment for violating AI rules?


Option 2: Progressive punishment

Frist offense warning; second offense 3 day ban; fourth offense 30 day ban; 5th offense 6 month ban, etc.


Question 3: How should we moderate AI VOTES


Option 1: Complete prohibition


Question 3 How should we punish voting violation?


Option 2: Progressive punishment

Frist offense warning; second offense 3 day ban; fourth offense 30 day ban; 5th offense 6 month ban, etc.


Question 4: Should we allow debaters to change the default rules?


Yes


The main issue is that if you allow a super low-effort way to debate and the site does take off you will run into the problem of people using AI to spam debates with minimal effort. It will only take a few users to do this and flood the site with AI slop. So using AI to write your debates should be nipped in the bud. I think that using AI to write votes should be severely punished. Maybe the first offense is a month-long removal of your voting rights and the second offense is a permaban from voting.


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Marxists don't actually believe this. Retards with trust funds in the US who haven't worked a day in their lives and call themselves 'Marxists' to annoy their dads believe this.


If these people lived in any actual Marxist society, they would proclaim their desire to be a poet or interpretive dancer before being told by a stone-faced commissar that they've been assigned to a labor detail in a molybdenum mine.

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To clarify, what is the first-order objective of the nomad war machine?


The nomad war machine is basically a socio-cultural-political model which occupies what they refer to as a 'smooth' space as opposed to a striated space - it exists as a mass of people which freely moves upon that 'smooth' space, with the boundaries of more rigid states being the 'striation' which interrupts the flow of this form of society. The state is always trying to expand its demesne, to exert control over more and more territory. The nomadic war machine is a mass which tries to flow freely, from one region to another, and their whole mode of being depends on doing so, following the flux of seasons. Once the nomadic war machine runs into the restrictions placed by states, conflict is an inevitability, and it's why you see it throughout history, from the Sea People to the Xiongnu and Scythians or the Huns and Mongols. You can see it in the conflict between the Plains Indians and American settlers and between the Siberian nomads and an expanding Russian empire, or the multiple Indo-Aryan invasions into more sedentary subcontinental societies. In the instance of the Jurchens conquering China, the war machine is absorbed and repurposed by the existing state to serve as a defense mechanism. Similar things happened to the Chagatai Khanate which became absorbed into both Iranian and Indian society. It's interesting that the Yuan and Qing both seemed to be aware or this and desperately tried to retain their 'nomadic' character - the Qing by maintaining the old Eight Banner System and centering a lot of their sport and culture around the Mulan Hunting Grounds.

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Been reading this interesting essay. A lot of the analysis strikes true, especially their point of a 'war machine' being necessarily 'outside' the state, and a constant threat to it, and of the great nomad conquering kingdoms of the past being free-standing war machines which functioned in very different ways to a more typical sedentary state. Some choice excerpts:


Thoughts on the relationship:

The warrior is in the position of betraying everything, including the function of the military, or of understanding nothing. It happens that historians, both bourgeois and Soviet, will follow this negative tradition and explain how Genghis Khan understood nothing: he "didn't understand" the phenomenon of the city. An easy thing to say. The problem is that the exteriority of the war machine in relation to the State apparatus is everywhere apparent but remains difficult to conceptualize. It is not enough to affirm that the war machine is external to the apparatus. It is necessary to reach the point of conceiving the war machine as itself a pure form of exteriority, whereas the State apparatus constitutes the form of interiority we habitually take as a model, or according to which we are in the habit of thinking.
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The State has no war machine of its own; it can only appropriate one in the form of a military institution, one that will continually cause it problems. This explains the mistrust States have toward their military institutions, in that the military institution inherits an extrinsic war machine. Karl von Clausewitz has a general sense of this situation when he treats the flow of absolute war as an Idea that States partially appropriate according to their political needs, and in relation to which they are more or less good "conductors."


Comparing the traditional state and concept of nomadism through chess & go analogy:

Let us take a limited example and compare the war machine and the State apparatus in the context of the theory of games. Let us take chess and Go, from the standpoint of the game pieces, the relations between the pieces and the space involved. Chess is a game of State, or of the court: the emperor of China played it. Chess pieces are coded; they have an internal nature and intrinsic properties from which their movements, situations, and confrontations derive. They have qualities; a knight remains a knight, a pawn a pawn, a bishop a bishop. Each is like a subject of the statement endowed with a relative power, and these relative powers combine in a subject of enunciation, that is, the chess player or the game's form of interiority. Go pieces, in contrast, are pellets, disks, simple arithmetic units, and have only an anonymous, collective, or third-person function: "It" makes a move. "It" could be a man, a woman, a louse, an elephant. Go pieces are elements of a nonsubjectified machine assemblage with no intrinsic properties, only situational ones. Thus the relations are very different in the two cases. Within their milieu of interiority, chess pieces entertain biunivocal relations with one another, and with the adversary's pieces: their functioning is structural. On the other hand, a Go piece has only a milieu of exteriority, or extrinsic relations with nebulas or constellations, according to which it fulfills functions of insertion or situation, such as bordering, encircling, shattering. All by itself, a Go piece can destroy an entire constellation synchronically; a chess piece cannot (or can do so diachronically only). Chess is indeed a war, but an institutionalized, regulated, coded war, with a front, a rear, battles. But what is proper to Go is war without battle lines, with neither confrontation nor retreat, without battles even: pure strategy, whereas chess is a semiology. Finally, the space is not at all the same: in chess, it is a question of arranging a closed space for oneself, thus of going from one point to another, of occupying the maximum number of squares with the minimum number of pieces. In Go, it is a question of arraying oneself in an open space, of holding space, of maintaining the possibility of springing up at any point: the movement is not from one point to another, but becomes perpetual, without aim or destination, without departure or arrival. The "smooth" space of Go, as against the "striated" space of chess. The nomos of Go against the State of chess, nomos against polis. The difference is that chess codes and decodes space, whereas Go proceeds altogether differently, territorializing or deterritorializing it (make the outside a territory in space; consolidate that territory by the construction of a second, adjacent territory; deterritorialize the enemy by shattering his territory from within; deterritorialize oneself by renouncing, by going elsewhere.)


On the original formation of states:

We certainly would not say that discipline is what defines a war machine: discipline is the characteristic required of armies after the State has appropriated them. The war machine answers to other rules. We are not saying that they are better, of course, only that they animate a fundamental indiscipline of the warrior, a questioning of hierarchy, perpetual blackmail by abandonment or betrayal, and a very volatile sense of honor, all of which, once again, impedes the formation of the State. But why does this argument fail to convince us entirely? We follow Clastres when he demonstrates that the State is explained neither by a development of productive forces nor by a differentiation of political forces. It is the State, on the contrary, that makes possible the undertaking of large-scale projects, the constitution of surpluses, and the organization of the corresponding public functions. The State is what makes the distinction between governors and governed possible. We do not see how the State can be explained by what it presupposes, even with recourse to dialectics. The State seems to rise up in a single stroke, in an imperial form, and does not depend on progressive factors. Its on-the-spot emergence is like a stroke of genius, the birth of Athena. We also follow Clastres when he shows that the war machine is directed against the State, either against potential States whose formation it wards off in advance, or against actual States whose destruction it purposes. No doubt the war machine is realized more completely in the "barbaric" assemblages of nomadic warriors than in the "savage" assemblages of primitive societies. In any case, it is out of the question that the State could be the result of a war in which the conquerors imposed, by the very fact of their victory, a new law on the vanquished, because the organization of the war machine is directed against the State-form, actual or virtual. The State is no better accounted for as a result of war than by a progression of economic or political forces. This is where Clastres locates the break: between "primitive" counter-State societies and "monstrous" State societies whose formation it is no longer possible to explain. Clastres is fascinated by the problem of "voluntary servitude," in the manner of La Boetie: In what way did people want or desire servitude, which most certainly did not come to them as the outcome of an involuntary and unfortunate war? They did, after all, have counter-State mechanisms at their disposal: So how and why the State? Why did the State triumph? The more deeply Clastres delved into the problem, the more he seemed to deprive himself of the means of resolving it.
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We are compelled to say that there has always been a State, quite perfect, quite complete. The more discoveries archaeologists make, the more empires they uncover. The hypothesis of the Urstaat seems to be verified: "The State clearly dates back to the most remote ages of humanity." It is hard to imagine primitive societies that would not have been in contact with imperial States, at the periphery or in poorly controlled areas. But of greater importance is the inverse hypothesis: that the State itself has always been in a relation with an outside and is inconceivable independent of that relationship. The law of the State is not the law of All or Nothing (State societies or counter-State societies) but that of interior and exterior. The State is sovereignty. But sovereignty only reigns over what it is capable of internalizing, of appropriating locally.


Then there is a big section juxtapositioning royal and nomad science. Royal science is science which has been co-opted and integrated via the internalizing mechanisms of the state, whereas nomad science is the creative 'font' that operates outside prescribed rules and on a much more intuitive, less structured, more conceptually preoccupied with interrelations and 'flow'. Examples of this would be Gothic architecture, calculus, or Feynman solving the Dirac equations. They trace this way of thinking to 'war machine' thinking, in which one must conceptualize armies or fleets as things in constant flow, defined by their interrelations to one another, more go than chess. They reference the concept of a fleet-in-being - the idea of a fleet in port, through the endless possibilities of its many possible deployments and engagements, controlling an area without actually inhabiting that space. Overall there is the idea that the State must create an internally consistent world but that the real world is much more fractal, difficult to conceptualize, and infinitely complex than any simple, neat story which the powers that be would want weave. So you have this constant conflict, this tension between those who interact with that complex reality (nomads/war machine/nomac science) in which conforming to fractal, constantly in-flux rules and principles is necessary for survival and those who reside within and rule over the state, which develops a simpler, alternate, static reality within which its citizens can operate. An excerpt detailing how the attempts to 'striate' or cordon off and control a smooth space like the sea or air failed in the face of much more complex realities:


One of the reasons for the hegemony of the West was the power of its State apparatuses to striate the sea by combining the technologies of the North and the Mediterranean and by annexing the Atlantic. But this undertaking had the most unexpected result: the multiplication of relative movements, the intensification of relative speeds in striated space, ended up reconstituting a smooth space or absolute movement. As Virilio emphasizes, the sea became the place of the fleet in being, where one no longer goes from one point to another, but rather holds space beginning from any point: instead of striating space, one occupies it with a vector of deterritorialization in perpetual motion. This modern strategy was communicated from the sea to the air, as the new smooth space, but also to the entire Earth considered as desert or sea.


Interesting excerpt on the nature of nomadic societies which makes use of a Dune quote:

Nomad organization is indissolubly arithmetic and directional; quantity is everywhere, tens, hundreds, direction is everywhere, left, right: the numerical chief is also the chief of the left or the right. The numbering number is rhythmic, not harmonic. It is not related to cadence or measure: it is only in State armies, and for reasons of discipline and show, that one marches in cadence; but autonomous numerical organization finds its meaning elsewhere, whenever it is necessary to establish an order of displacement on the steppe, the desert—at the point where the lineages of the forest dwellers and the figures of the State lose their relevance. "He moved with the random walk which made only those sounds natural to the desert. Nothing in his passage would [indicate] that human flesh moved there. It was a way of walking so deeply conditioned in him that he didn't need to think about it. The feet moved of themselves, no measurable rhythm to their pacing." In the war machine and nomadic existence, the number is no longer numbered, but becomes a Cipher (Chiffre), and it is in this capacity that it constitutes the "esprit de corps" and invents the secret and its outgrowths (strategy, espionage, war ruses, ambush, diplomacy, etc.). A ciphered, rhythmic, directional, autonomous, movable, numbering number: the war machine is like the necessary consequence of nomadic organization (Moses experienced it, with all its consequences). Some people nowadays are too eager to criticize this numerical organization, denouncing it as a military or even concentration-camp society where people are no longer anything more than deterritorialized "numbers." But that is false. Horror for horror, the numerical organization of people is certainly no cruder than the lineal or State organizations. Treating people like numbers is not necessarily worse than treating them like trees to prune, or geometrical figures to shape and model.


On the vanishing of nomad societies and a defense of them:

It is true that the nomads have no history; they only have a geography. And the defeat of the nomads was such, so complete, that history is one with the triumph of States. We have witnessed, as a result, a generalized critique dismissing the nomads as incapable of any innovation, whether technological or metallurgical, political or metaphysical. Historians, bourgeois or Soviet (Grousset or Vladimirtsov), consider the nomads a pitiable segment of humanity that understands nothing: not technology, to which it supposedly remained indifferent; not agriculture, not the cities and States it destroyed or conquered. It is difficult to see, however, how the nomads could have triumphed in war if they did not possess strong metallurgical capabilities (the idea that the nomads received their technical weapons and political counseling from renegades from an imperial State is highly improbable). It is difficult to see how the nomads could have undertaken to destroy cities and States, except in the name of a nomad organization and a war machine defined not by ignorance but by their positive characteristics, by their specific space, by a composition all their own that broke with lineages and warded off the State-form.

Particularly was impressed with this insight, as this unlettered derision of nomadic societies has absolutely steeped into so much commentary on societies like the Mongols, whom I find endlessly fascinating and who were explosively innovative in many spheres.


Musings on the nature of war and battle:

The first question, that of the battle, requires an immediate distinction to be made between two cases: when a battle is sought, and when it is essentially avoided by the war machine. These two cases in no way coincide with the offensive and the defensive. But war in the strict sense (according to a conception of it that culminated in Foch) does seem to have the battle as its object, whereas guerrilla warfare explicitly aims for the nonbattle. However, the development of war into the war of movement, and into total war, also places the notion of the battle in question, as much from the offensive as the defensive points of view: the concept of the nonbattle seems capable of expressing the speed of a flash attack, and the counterspeed of an immediate response. Conversely, the development of guerilla warfare implies a moment when, and forms under which, a battle must be effectively sought, in connection with exterior and interior "support points." And it is true that guerrilla warfare and war proper are constantly borrowing each other's methods and that the borrowings run equally in both directions (for example, stress has often been laid on the inspirations land-based guerrilla warfare received from maritime war). All we can say is that the battle and the nonbattle are the double object of war, according to a criterion that does not coincide with the offensive and the defensive, or even with war proper and guerrilla warfare. That is why we push the question further back, asking if war itself is the object of the war machine. It is not at all obvious. To the extent that war (with or without the battle) aims for the annihilation or capitulation of enemy forces, the war machine does not necessarily have war as its object (for example, the raid can be seen as another object, rather than as a particular form of war). But more generally, we have seen that the war machine was the invention of the nomad, because it is in its essence the constitutive element of smooth space, the occupation of this space, displacement within this space, and the corresponding composition of people: this is its sole and veritable positive object (nomos). Make the desert, the steppe, grow; do not depopulate it, quite the contrary. If war necessarily results, it is because the war machine collides with States and cities, as forces (of stri-ation) opposing its positive object: from then on, the war machine has as its enemy the State, the city, the state and urban phenomenon, and adopts as its objective their annihilation. It is at this point that the war machine becomes war: annihilate the forces of the State, destroy the State-form. The Attila, or Genghis Khan, adventure clearly illustrates this progression from the positive object to the negative object. Speaking like Aristotle, we would say that war is neither the condition nor the object of the war machine, but necessarily accompanies or completes it; speaking like Derrida, we would say that war is the "supplement" of the war machine. It may even happen that this supplementarity is comprehended through a progressive, anxiety-ridden revelation. Such, for example, was the adventure of Moses: leaving the Egyptian State behind, launching into the desert, he begins by forming a war machine, on the inspiration of the old past of the nomadic Hebrews and on the advice of his father-in-law, who came from the nomads. This is the machine of the Just, already a war machine, but one that does not yet have war as its object. Moses realizes, little by little, in stages, that war is the necessary supplement of that machine, because it encounters or must cross cities and States, because it must send ahead spies (armed observation), then perhaps take things to extremes (war of annihilation).


Finally, on the relationship between the war machine and state:

The question of war, in turn, is pushed further back and is subordinated to the relations between the war machine and the State apparatus. States were not the first to make war: war, of course, is not a phenomenon one finds in the universality of Nature, as nonspecific violence. But war is not the object of States, quite the contrary. The most archaic States do not even seem to have had a war machine, and their domination, as we will see, was based on other agencies (comprising, rather, the police and prisons). It is safe to assume that the intervention of an extrinsic or nomad war machine that counterattacked and destroyed the archaic but powerful States was one of the mysterious reasons for their sudden annihilation. But the State learns fast. One of the biggest questions from the point of view of universal history is: How will the State appropriate the war machine, that is, constitute one for itself, in conformity with its size, its domination, and its aims? And with what risks? (What we call a military institution, or army, is not at all the war machine in itself, but the form under which it is appropriated by the State.) In order to grasp the paradoxical character of such an undertaking, we must recapitulate the hypothesis in its entirety. (1) The war machine is that nomad invention that in fact has war not as its primary object but as its second-order, supplementary or synthetic objective, in the sense that it is determined in such a way as to destroy the State-form and city-form with which it collides. (2) When the State appropriates the war machine, the latter obviously changes in nature and function, since it is afterward directed against the nomad and all State destroyers, or else expresses relations between States, to the extent that a State undertakes exclusively to destroy another State or impose its aims upon it. (3) It is precisely after the war machine has been appropriated by the State in this way that it tends to take war for its direct and primary object, for its "analytic" object (and that war tends to take the battle for its object). In short, it is at one and the same time that the State apparatus appropriates a war machine, that the war machine takes war as its object, and that war becomes subordinated to the aims of the State.


These are just a couple of excerpts that I found interesting, the full document can be found as a chapter in this larger work (starting on page 373), though initially published independently: https://files.libcom.org/files/A%20Thousand%20Plateaus.pdf


Reply to any of these insights/arguments that you also find noteworthy.



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He doesn’t look Egyptian at all.


What does an Egyptian 'look like?' How would you know? How do you know there weren't Swedes sailing down the Nile in their longboats? They're always covering up the history. We've just discovered instructions for Pharaoh Sven's Ikea birdbath assembly. Anything is possible.

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It looks like a design for a birdbath.


History's first Ikea manual. Are we sure the Swedes didn't build the pyramids?


Is this, perhaps, the missing piece of the puzzle?


Was he... real?


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They are not paid to consider the public. Many private interests subsidize the media. Even government subsidized media like the CBC isn't really public as it's beholden to the priorities of politicians whose main concern is securing their reelection funds, not providing unvarnished truth to the public. In both cases, the “facts” are filtered through the interests of whoever holds the purse strings.


Hence the 'supposed'. To quote John Swinton's infamous press dinner speech:


There is no such a thing in America as an independent press, unless it is out in country towns. You are all slaves. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dares to express an honest opinion. If you expressed it, you would know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid $150 for keeping honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things. If I should allow honest opinions to be printed in one issue of my paper, I would be like Othello before twenty-four hours: my occupation would be gone. The man who would be so foolish as to write honest opinions would be out on the street hunting for another job. The business of a New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to villify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell his country and his race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same — his salary. You know this, and I know it; and what foolery to be toasting an "Independent Press"! We are the tools and vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the string and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes.
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Yes, estimates suggest that millions of indigenous people across the Americas were killed by European settlers due to various factors, including disease, warfare, and violence. Some estimates range as high as 50-100 million indigenous people across the Americas.

I have it on good authority that they've forgiven us for all that, on account of our introducing them to the wonders of alcohol.

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If you like Nixon I'm also convinced you liked the Jell-O meat/salad rings that everyone ate back then


I've never seen such an exquisite example of haute cuisine. And people say that white people don't have culture!

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If humankind burns through all of our available finite energy resources and pollutes our biosphere to power giant server farms, we deserve whatever ignominious end awaits us. Especially since that energy will be bent towards writing mediocre essays for mentally impervious college students and then generating ever-more depraved AI porn for them to goon to in their mother's basements when they're unfitness is discovered. It makes you wonder: is this what it was all for? When Archimedes was sketching out stars in the sand to deduce the elementary principles of mathematics, when Mendeleev puzzled out the fundamentals of chemistry, when Shockley & co. assembled the first point-contact transistor, did any of them imagine that the crowning efforts of five millennia of grueling technological progress would be this? Some marginally functional social retard chatting to his A. I. loli girlfriend, reduced to his state of profound intellectual impotence by a lifetime reliance on machines built to doing his thinking for him? That he would be the last representative of our species to grace this little blue orb, before our ice-veined new machine gods saw fit to snuff us out for good?

RexFavilla
Not for nothing but if this paragon of humanity were alive today he would fucking live on Epstein island with his boyfriend Roger Stone. Not like any of our executives.
-FakeMcDonalds

He won the Presidency is what he did. He was a brave American leader. And in this house, Richard Nixon is a hero. End of story.