Debby wrote:
The Big Bang has not change the way we view life because it happened so long ago. And out belief system was already fixed when we discovered it.
Hmmm...I'm guessing that the above was written in a hurry Debs, as it is neither coherent nor sensible.
As I stated previously, something is true only if it is true.
"Reliable sources" are no guarantee of truth...Just a repetition of information from a respected source.
So "BIG BANG" theory is the product of respected sources, but nonetheless only theory, so therefore not a truth....Same applies to naive theistic/deistic hypotheses.
Yes.
Americans are more likely to be killed by fellow Americans, than by illegal immigrants.
Though according to those Red Injuns most Americans are illegal anyway.
Debby wrote:
That is why we need religion to deal with human suffering.
More explanation required Debs.
How does religion deal with human suffering.
And yes, opiates do help, especially when other analgesics fail to.
Hi Debs.
Well, all thoughts are original...Though all thoughts will be adaptations of acquired data...And the same applies to me as it applies to you.
Look at your contributions to these threads and what you will see is the repetition of the same old theistic mantra/s...Mantras that do not verify the naive Christian hypothesis that you have chosen to expound...So my mantra is to easily point out the shortcomings and flaws in the Christian story...Therefore, until you can substantiate any of your claims you must be prepared to expect my "echo".
And for sure, mine, yours and everyone's understanding of creation and existence is "poor"...In fact, we haven't got a clue.
Obviously, you are not married.
You don't mean that.
All or a lot of?
But yes, such is the trend.
Well, "smart" is a generalisation...Though yes, North Korea conforms to the hierarchical model in what might be described as a more extreme format.
Though I'm still not certain that "going nuclear" is a necessary prerequisite of "religious freedom"...This is yet another point that you will need to clarify Debs.
Hmmm...So idealism and human social history and ongoing social development are in no way linked.
Please explain Debs.
Well, easy to say when it's easy to say.
But I am not denying the necessity of conformity to the system...Such is how survival and society have evolved.
Though money is no more than an elaborate extension of waking, hunter gathering, sex and death...And therein lies the farce.
Debby wrote:
You judge yourself by your moral standards and not by your knowledge and ability to verify the truth. You built an idol of yourself on assumptions.
Well, I can apply exactly the same criteria to the self idolatry that is Debby...Such is the basis of our ongoing contention and discussion.
Yes, humans create and are therefore a key element of global material evolution.
And I will assume that human global creativity will be the basis of a future universal evolutionary role...But perhaps more so in AI form.
Nope "The Big Bang" is a loose scientific theory that is unable to confirm anything.
The trouble is, BIG BANG has become a hang up for the hung up.
And for sure, religion is an evolutionary phase of the intellectual primate period...Which is very a recent phase and not genuinely comparable with a universal creation event.
So are RC Inc now trying to hijack BIG BANG theory...I wouldn't put it past them...They will probably build a shrine and a tourist complex, where they will supply tacky plastic Chinese made BIG BANG trinkets and miracle cures to the gullible.
Yes...GOD FART for sure.
Hmmm...Well yes, that's very easy to do...One doesn't need to be a "theology scholar" to conclude that the Jesus character was based upon a real person.
And copying and reinterpreting old narratives is certainly one way of occupying ones time.
Well, something is true if it is true.
Whereas corroborated folk tales are corroborated folk tales.
Though the Basis of the gospel folk tales cannot be verified.
And therefore because is a poor "scientific standard".
Digital money is digital money as dictated by digital markets.
So crypto is worth dollars and dollars is worth crypto.
As such money is an even bigger farce than it was previously.
Hmmmm...It doesn't matter how you dress up tyranny and capitalism, they are all essentially based upon the same hierarchical model, that utilises varying degrees of selfishness, oppression and tolerance.
Yes, I don't doubt that certain Americans are capable of such.
America is the undoubtedly the epitome of Yin and Yang.
That is to say, Clever Stupid.
You're welcome.
That said, how sure are you that the Universe will perpetually be in motion.
That said, if everything is a sequence of expansion, collapse and re-initiation then perpetuality is a given.
Based upon a given that there wasn't a beginning.
Though if there was a beginning then presumably an end is also a possibility...Maybe this all depends upon us and future systems of intelligence, getting it right.
Or wrong.
Hmmmmm GG.
"The Bible" is a book and was a loose basis for the establishment of theo-political empires, and thanks to generational data transfer still remains so.
So the book is inanimate and therefore neither moral or immoral, whereas the conflict between ideological business models is based upon selfishness and self righteousness and thus necessarily immoral with regard to the ideological enemy.
I too as an individual thinking unit am as moral as it is necessary to be...Such are the demands of survival...Therefore in simplistic terms when compared with an inanimate book I am potentially a superior source of both morality and immorality... And I say potentially, because I'm not certain at all what "morality" is within a universal context...Though definitively within a human context I would suggest that moral and immoral all come under the same general heading of morality.
Yes, and I expect that it will
Well, who or when "the gospels" were "corroborated" and first jotted down is a moot point, even among Christian scholars.
The four blokes who were reputedly mates of Jesus, would certainly have witnessed something, though intervening years between witness and first compilation somewhat diminishes the accuracy of the uncorroborated hand me down tales and certainly allows for the introduction of mythical fantasy into such tales.
Notwithstanding that BIG BANG is a contradiction in an earless universe...BIG BANG now exceeds it's theoretical basis, and has become in some heads more than it was intended to be...Sort of the Anti-Christ...Perhaps it should be renamed PERHAPS.
Yes, interesting thought Debs...We are seemingly programmed thus.
Who knows indeed.
North Korea proves North Korea.
Hmmmm
So, was Hitler wrong.
Hmmmm
If not, then the sacrifice of 10 million or more allied lives would be tinged with a certain irony.
Hmmmm
Clever stupid for sure.
Rattle that.
Well, we have Russian paranoia masquerading as Orthodox Christianity to do that job for us...Such is "the long term advantage of being anti-abortion"...Especially if one needs to restock with cannon fodder...Or should I say drone fodder.
