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A ~12+ player game in these parts is unusual, but I just think that multiple 1,500 post DPs will burn out people like crazy and its not like 600 posts is nothing.

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I remember Pie saying he wouldn't give his partner a bad claim but I do remember him saying that as scum, so maybe, but Alyssa isn't some new player.


@Mestari


I liked Helz posts so far, and for the most part, Banana and Awesome have floated around not doing much. Can't blame them. Wryly is a bit more active, but hasn't posted anything off. If all four are town, then that means mafia is in a group I consider town, including you and Luna/Wylted.

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I honestly expected Alyssa to fight back a bit more. I know this is WIFOM but Pie might not be mafia because if he was, he would be absolutely raging in the Discord if is was. I disagree it was inevitable.

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Alyssa needs to flip as scum first. And yeah, you can always say I am bussing Alyssa, but thats a ballsy play isn't it? So sure, I could be bussing an experienced mafioso, or I am town and I pointed something strange about how Alyssa claimed, even if Mikal had to come down and make a correction. My activity should not have anything to do with the probability that I am a bussing mafia or just town.

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I know I must be hard to read, but I guess my reaction to Alyssa should get me some town reads. I'm not opposed to claiming, but I won't just volunteer information for no reason. Town might sus me, but not enough to pressure me for information it seems.

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I can buy Jinwoo being third party. There was a time when mods would actually flavor their OPs and other posts, so as Lunatic said, its probably hinting at something.

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I played Heartbreaking Bears Mafia with WF and we tailored Rex when he was mislynched DP1. So Thoth getting Tailored isn't impossible, just unlikely. Just throwing that out there.

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If Alyssa is scum, then her role isn't much help because even if it resets, town will just vote you again.

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First is called Widely Admired - I require one additional vote beyond the normal majority to be eliminated during the day phase. Once this ability triggers, the vote count resets and this ability is consumed.


This is what Alyssa said about her role. Mikal reset the votes when she reached 9 votes. Popular would have been lunched at 10. What exactly is the trigger? Popular is nonsensical in context. Imagine if I voted immediately after Casey did. Would the hammer happen? No. Mikal would reset the vote when Casey 'hammered' and I would be the sole vote on the new VC.

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Can you explain to a retard like me why Alyssa would be some Popular then? Her role triggered when she was at 9/9 votes. That isn't Popular. All we saw was that she can reset votes against her once.

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Town


Lunatic

Wylted

Shining


Lean Town


Helz

Mestari

magic

Vader


Alyssa


I feel like everyone feels like something is off about Alyssa. The thing I am thinking about is how her first role works and how they described it, but maybe I am just stupid. Alyssa is however is REALLY experienced mafia player. I think more than a few times they had to have been up against the wall defending themselves and even for stupid reasons. Them giving up is odd. Also, as I believe it was Lunatic who said it, Alyssa seemingly decided to volunteer her character and role. Hard scum, but her giving up is giving me a bit of pause.



Anyone else not mentioned is more or less null, but I am interested in Pie regardless of how this lynch flips.



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Going to sleep. I imagine Alyssa's scum buddies will work hard to make a defense. Funny that Alyssa afks when she gets shit.

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Literally everyone that plays mafia with Pie agrees he sometimes leads town off a cliff. Pie just acts like that.

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Honestly the more I think about it, the more I scratch my head and wonder. Alyssa's first role doesn't seem to be Popular. Its more like a governor. I don't understand why Alyssa saud that she needs an extra vote to be lunched if votes reset when she hits L-0.

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If that’s the case then she just died and it blew up in their face


True. But I wouldn't put it past the more gifted players to pull a gambit like them being 1x lynch proof or a governor. Probably not though this time. Still think Alyssa is a little sus from her explaing her role.