Periodic Table of Elements Mafia - DP1

i'd rather not kohai run shit

but if makes a good read all credit to him

Helz wrote:

Kohai wrote:

Kinda want to clear Bullish, or at least put him in my "do not lynch today" column.

POE that I'm looking at today:

Lunatic

Shining

Casey

Banana

Mag1cman

Magoroth

Helz

I think you should take your mantel as confirmed town and run shit. Listen to the advice you are given and ask for it but you made the decision to be the D1 confirmed town and need to control the direction of the elimination imo.

I’m still getting caught up from Shabbat / Shavuot.

I am still working on an analysis.

I agree with you that town should have a clear wagon and CW

VTL: Shining

I’m getting dinner and will be back soon. I kinda want to go here and pressure the is slot. I haven’t really seen them do much.

Kinda want to see a Shinning / Mago wagon.

I can only say that I do not at all understand cutting Rex and Bullish from that pool.

Thats two positions that I would put miles ahead of names like Banana, Shining, Casey, Lunatic. Your throwing in absolute neutrals over players actively scum read with solid reasoning and I think you should consider as much. Thats my 2 cents

Helz wrote:

I can only say that I do not at all understand cutting Rex and Bullish from that pool.

Thats two positions that I would put miles ahead of names like Banana, Shining, Casey, Lunatic. Your throwing in absolute neutrals over players actively scum read with solid reasoning and I think you should consider as much. Thats my 2 cents

I’m not counting them out as potential scum. I am saying that these two probably should not be the lynch for today.

Bullish - I do town read him openly claiming his character like that.

Rex - Again I mentioned that I do think that he may have genuinely town slipped.

Kohai wrote:

POE that I'm looking at today:

Lunatic

Shining

Casey

Banana

Mag1cman

Magoroth

Helz

Can you even a call it a PoE when it's that long?

Does it feel like Helz has been excessively buttering Kohai up ever since he was confirmed town to anyone else?

Jfyi, I’m in Hawaii so timezones are a little different. DP will still end on time. I just will be asleep for a few hours and will close when I wake up

He's been slobbing on that knob a bit too enthusiastically for my liking.

Kohai wrote:

Helz wrote:

I can only say that I do not at all understand cutting Rex and Bullish from that pool.

Thats two positions that I would put miles ahead of names like Banana, Shining, Casey, Lunatic. Your throwing in absolute neutrals over players actively scum read with solid reasoning and I think you should consider as much. Thats my 2 cents

I’m not counting them out as potential scum. I am saying that these two probably should not be the lynch for today.

Bullish - I do town read him openly claiming his character like that.

Rex - Again I mentioned that I do think that he may have genuinely town slipped.

It seems like we are pairing an inactive blank slot with someone people scum read.

I would add in Banana, Casey, Mag1cman and Mikal if we are just gona smite on low contribution. And I would also consider what value the result gives you. Sure lots of people have taken positions on Mag. I think Banana, Bulish, Luna, Mag1cman, and Thoth have all scum read them to some extent. But what do you get on the other side post flip?

RexFavilla wrote:

Does it feel like Helz has been excessively buttering Kohai up ever since he was confirmed town to anyone else?

If executioner is possible I feel like its you.

Every single thing I do or say you paint as if I am evil. From speaking to confirmed town to arguing about disliking angle shooting. You really look like you have a crazy agenda at this point.

Like really, Me bitching about OOG communication makes me somehow team scum with Mikal? Yet other people doing the same is just normal. Now me pushing the confirmed town to run things and advising is me slobbing on their knob as a scum trying to manipulate?

That thing you said earlier about how every time you post I scum read you more. I am feeling that for real right now.

Can you explain #255? Only if you think it's safe to do so.

I'm calling the scum team now as Luna, Rex, and Casey. I don't suggest that you blindly believe me, I just want this on record so I can see how many I got right after the game.

Shining giving something resembling decent reads in #269 almost feels AI for him because it's usually like pulling teeth to get a read out of him. I almost wonder if scum chat was feeding him reads. Not that I always hold up my promises to give reads later.

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Bullish (2/7): Magoroth (p#403), whiteflame (p#417)

RexFavilla (2/7): Helz (p#222), Lunatic (p#247)

Magoroth (1/7): Bullish (p#73)

Shining (1/7): Kohai (p#483)

Not Voting (7): Banana (p#448), Casey_Risk, Mag1cman, Mikal, RexFavilla (p#366), Shining, Thoth (p#433)

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 12 hours.

UNVOTE

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Im borderline vote parking.

Will re-evaluate when I get back but gotta do this podcast thing I forgot I agreed to do for an hour or so.

Really though. I would love to hear how anyone can look at Rex's thought process and connect dots. It pings me quite a bit and should be discussed. Their position they should be town read from blank RVS votes and such was awful and they keep doubling down with nonsensical reasoning that screams agenda.

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Bullish (2/7): Magoroth (p#403), whiteflame (p#417)

RexFavilla (2/7): Helz (p#222), Lunatic (p#247)

Magoroth (1/7): Bullish (p#73)

Not Voting (8): Banana (p#448), Casey_Risk, Kohai (p#499), Mag1cman, Mikal, RexFavilla (p#366), Shining, Thoth (p#433)

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 11 hours.

Helz wrote:

Im borderline vote parking.

Will re-evaluate when I get back but gotta do this podcast thing I forgot I agreed to do for an hour or so.

Really though. I would love to hear how anyone can look at Rex's thought process and connect dots. It pings me quite a bit and should be discussed. Their position they should be town read from blank RVS votes and such was awful and they keep doubling down with nonsensical reasoning that screams agenda.

Who should the second wagon be?

Do you think Rex is mafia or 3P

Out of the three main wagons if I had to vote one of them I’d vote mag

there's a lot people fluing under the radar

and tbh... Magoroth really is driving activity. i'ts not like scum magoroth

Bullish town by way of soft and Kohai lock town

So this is what I mean by scum just letting us drift toward those wagons:

1. There's definitely some scum hading among those less active, last game proved this pretty well and it's a consistent theme

2.Opportunism has been such a theme recently that scum would like to avoid opportunism by jumping on wagons that townies started

combine these two incentives together and we have a game where it's likely Rex and Magoroth are town, and town is just misreading while mafia lets people like Helz and others take the fall in the following DPs

note: I haven't looked into Helz yet, but if we're thinking about the incentives of this game, I don't expect mafia to be involved in any of what's going on rn

Mag1cman wrote:

there's a lot people fluing under the radar

and tbh... Magoroth really is driving activity. i'ts not like scum magoroth

Bullish town by way of soft and Kohai lock town

So this is what I mean by scum just letting us drift toward those wagons:

1. There's definitely some scum hading among those less active, last game proved this pretty well and it's a consistent theme

2.Opportunism has been such a theme recently that scum would like to avoid opportunism by jumping on wagons that townies started

combine these two incentives together and we have a game where it's likely Rex and Magoroth are town, and town is just misreading while mafia lets people like Helz and others take the fall in the following DPs

I kinda want to town read mag1c for this post.

Poe (?)

Lunatic

Shining

Casey

Banana

Magoroth

anyway i skimmed my catch up so imma go back and get on that

Actually let me re think that

Behavior wise I think Mag1c is night and day from the game when we were scum together

Banana

p#295 - states they are catching up.

p#298 - agree with Banana on this.

p#299 - asks how 10 v 3 is town sided.

p#311 - sheeps lunatic and votes mago

p#312 - say's she's caught up

p#421, p#422 - finally something that isn't a one lner. Unvotes and then votes Bullish. This progression really bothers me.

p#448 - unvotes again and states they're trying to catch up (more than 2 hours ago).

A few things that strikes me about banana's ISO: The vast majority of her posts are simple 1 liners and her claiming she' catching up. I dislike the switch from mago to bullish. Banana's ISO feels so categorically different from Amber Mafia. In Amber mafia she at least made a decent effort and read list. I'm not seeing the same style of play