Periodic Table of Elements Mafia - DP1

being annoyed is one thing, but acting like he doesnt understand why he is being scum read is another. then voting for the people scum reading him, its a bit much

Mikal wrote:

Yes because hes polar fucking opposite of how he plays as scum. He literally afks and doesn't engage lol.

The fact hes a lynch target and still trolling is like such a town tell lol. Hes annoyed and is basically saying fuck around and find out. Its obvious as shit to me

This is actually not a bad point.

Its not Casey's not active so they are scum. It's casey is continuously inactive as both scum and town and will be impossible to read because of how retarded inactive they are

I don't like rex and magic is against bullish and kinda trusting him a bjt

And tbh I still like casey over those 2. Kinda the same shjt with mag last game. Sometimes you just have to take the shot on people who dont play and hope it hits.

At worst its just removing someone that will be a lynch target later. At best we hit scum. Its more utility since its dp1 and we dont have a great target atm

Mag1cman wrote:

Helz wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

btw if the mafia team needs me pointing out that Bullish is likely town by way of obvious PR behavior, just to figure out that Bullish is a PR, when he literally softed his character, and then claimed his character without claiming his role, then they can just have the hint cause they're clearly gonna need all the hints they can get lol

That was super not helpful to point out...

it is to stop a bullish mislynch

and to restate: If the mafia team needed my help figuring that one out, then they are a weak team who will screw up later anyway. I'm not worried.

I do not even know what level of WIFOM your coming from here but mafia wanting to kill a townie is kinda how it works. Your speaking from some perspective where you know Bullish is town and that post flip the mafia players will look bad for killing them also assuming that mafia made the elemination happen?

There is like so much mental gymnastics I have to do to understand your point it hurts. Best simple reply I can give is "Wut..."

Mikal wrote:

Its not Casey's not active so they are scum. It's casey is continuously inactive as both scum and town and will be impossible to read because of how retarded inactive they are

Fair. I would say I really hate blindly lynching someone because they're inactive.

RexFavilla wrote:

Banana wrote:

i think the biggest thing for me is rex being so stubborn about why ppl are lynching him, acting like is unfathmlble he coudl be scum and omgusing those voting him, yet admitting he was acting scummy on prupose. it makes no sense

Because scum tend to not look scummy on purpose, and people who are genuinely scumhunting and trying to analyze behavior see it and know that. Furthermore, I've demonstrated that I can play unscummy as scum several times. So, a town player trying to genuinely solve the game will look at me acting scummy and say 'what's going on here, would scum rex do this? Is this NAI?' There would be an element of WIFOM. To simply take everything I do that comes across as 'scummy' and uncritically tallying up a case to lynch me is something that scum pursuing a mislynch would do.

okay so you think ppl like helz and luna just vote u thinking your town so they can write it off as an ez sell? part of the reason i scum read it also is your not really pushing great scum reads urself

Luna is another one im not sold on. But I always have a hard time reading him

Helz wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

Helz wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

btw if the mafia team needs me pointing out that Bullish is likely town by way of obvious PR behavior, just to figure out that Bullish is a PR, when he literally softed his character, and then claimed his character without claiming his role, then they can just have the hint cause they're clearly gonna need all the hints they can get lol

That was super not helpful to point out...

it is to stop a bullish mislynch

and to restate: If the mafia team needed my help figuring that one out, then they are a weak team who will screw up later anyway. I'm not worried.

I do not even know what level of WIFOM your coming from here but mafia wanting to kill a townie is kinda how it works. Your speaking from some perspective where you know Bullish is town and that post flip the mafia players will look bad for killing them also assuming that mafia made the elemination happen?

There is like so much mental gymnastics I have to do to understand your point it hurts. Best simple reply I can give is "Wut..."

so we agree bullish is town then?

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

Bullish (3/7): Magoroth (p#403), whiteflame (p#417), Mikal (p#578)

RexFavilla (3/7): Helz (p#222), Lunatic (p#247), Banana (p#563)

Helz (2/7): Thoth (p#577), RexFavilla (p#597)

Magoroth (1/7): Bullish (p#73)

Not Voting (4): Casey_Risk, Kohai (p#499), Mag1cman, Shining

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 9 hours.

VTL: Casey_Risk

Im about to have to sleep.

Im parking here.

Rex reads me as town and trusting what magic is saying about bullish. We cant vtnl cus odd. Voting off pure utility and me not being around when the dp ends.

Banana wrote:

RexFavilla wrote:

Banana wrote:

i think the biggest thing for me is rex being so stubborn about why ppl are lynching him, acting like is unfathmlble he coudl be scum and omgusing those voting him, yet admitting he was acting scummy on prupose. it makes no sense

Because scum tend to not look scummy on purpose, and people who are genuinely scumhunting and trying to analyze behavior see it and know that. Furthermore, I've demonstrated that I can play unscummy as scum several times. So, a town player trying to genuinely solve the game will look at me acting scummy and say 'what's going on here, would scum rex do this? Is this NAI?' There would be an element of WIFOM. To simply take everything I do that comes across as 'scummy' and uncritically tallying up a case to lynch me is something that scum pursuing a mislynch would do.

okay so you think ppl like helz and luna just vote u thinking your town so they can write it off as an ez sell? part of the reason i scum read it also is your not really pushing great scum reads urself

Yes, scum DP1 are looking for a mislynch that they can push and have plausible deniability. I'm a good target for that, but to someone approaching the game from an uninformed perspective my behavior should strike them as odd and give them pause.

There's usually no such thing as 'great' scum reads DP1. We have very little confirmed info to work with other than the fact that Kohai is confirmed town. There are just 'less bad' scum reads.

Mag1cman wrote:

so we agree bullish is town then?

No. I question your position starting from knowing that Bullish is town which looks like TMI.

Then I question all the direction you take from there. Please correct me where I am wrong but it seems like your demanding that player is town and then following up with thoughts about how town will react when they flip town.

This is suspect to me.

Mag1cman just really caught my attention. Anyone else seeing this? Am I off base here?

Helz wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

so we agree bullish is town then?

No. I question your position starting from knowing that Bullish is town which looks like TMI.

Then I question all the direction you take from there. Please correct me where I am wrong but it seems like your demanding that player is town and then following up with thoughts about how town will react when they flip town.

This is suspect to me.

yup, you got me, I'm scum and I TMI'd that Bullish is town

so can you get off his wagon

Automated Vote Count

This vote count was generated by the mafia vote bot.

RexFavilla (3/7): Helz (p#222), Lunatic (p#247), Banana (p#563)

Bullish (2/7): Magoroth (p#403), whiteflame (p#417)

Helz (2/7): Thoth (p#577), RexFavilla (p#597)

Magoroth (1/7): Bullish (p#73)

Casey_Risk (1/7): Mikal (p#640)

Not Voting (4): Casey_Risk, Kohai (p#499), Mag1cman, Shining

With 13 players alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day phase ends in 9 hours.

ah ur on rex's wagon

This day is over in the am and half of us are prob about to sleep id imagine. Other than thoth cus he lives in hell. Can we land on what to do. Otherwise plurality may be awkward as fuck if it lands wrong and give scum a chance to land a random lynch

We need to land on something and consolidate on someone.

Mikal wrote:

This day is over in the am and half of us are prob about to sleep id imagine. Other than thoth cus he lives in hell. Can we land on what to do. Otherwise plurality may be awkward as fuck if it lands wrong and give scum a chance to land a random lynch

We need to land on something and consolidate on someone.

Is it pluralty lynch or is it maj lynch?

Mikal wrote:

This day is over in the am and half of us are prob about to sleep id imagine. Other than thoth cus he lives in hell. Can we land on what to do. Otherwise plurality may be awkward as fuck if it lands wrong and give scum a chance to land a random lynch

We need to land on something and consolidate on someone.

yup looking at others rn

@Helz jokes aside, it's just simple logic on Bullish. Nothing tmi about it

Mag1cman wrote:

Helz wrote:

Mag1cman wrote:

so we agree bullish is town then?

No. I question your position starting from knowing that Bullish is town which looks like TMI.

Then I question all the direction you take from there. Please correct me where I am wrong but it seems like your demanding that player is town and then following up with thoughts about how town will react when they flip town.

This is suspect to me.

yup, you got me, I'm scum and I TMI'd that Bullish is town

so can you get off his wagon

Mag1cman wrote:

ah ur on rex's wagon

LOL!!!!

Oh my god I am dying right now. This is funny as fuck

Not sure assuming plurality cus that's normally default

whiteflame wrote:

Thoth wrote:

whiteflame wrote:

Also also, are you saying that your role is currently active and that you'll learn what it is by DP4 or that it will activate by DP4?

I have a role that was determined before the game started. I will learn what that role is at the start of DP4. This role has at least one ability. These abilit(y/ies) may be active or passive. It might be active now or it might not be. Pie won't tell me anything else about my abilit(y/ies) until DP4 starts. That's what I got between reading my PM and interrogating Pie.

Alright, that’s a unique design for a role, basically telling you that you have a hidden role and that it will be revealed later. I can better understand why you’d SOP claim that.

this is an ok post. It can be faked but it's ok

Mikal wrote:

Not sure assuming plurality cus that's normally default

Fair. I'd rather get a maj just to be safe + get something real to analyze

Helz wrote:

Oh my god I am dying right now. This is funny as fuck

??

Do you agree with my thoughts on casey.

Im not comfortable with anyone else tbh other than bullish and thats just because he pings me as weird. But trusting you on him. So from lack of a solid target. Hit the person that won't participate for the duration of the game [or if they do its going to be minimial]

From a utility level. I think its the as strongest choice atm

we can analyze the incentives of Mikal's vote on Casey DP2 but from what im seeing he seems towny just by his process. hard to elaborate but it just seems genuine

Mag1cman wrote:

Mikal wrote:

This day is over in the am and half of us are prob about to sleep id imagine. Other than thoth cus he lives in hell. Can we land on what to do. Otherwise plurality may be awkward as fuck if it lands wrong and give scum a chance to land a random lynch

We need to land on something and consolidate on someone.

yup looking at others rn

@Helz jokes aside, it's just simple logic on Bullish. Nothing tmi about it

Ok. So all bullshit aside.

Im confused at your point. You are arguing that Bullish is town. Ok.. Uhh.. Why?

Past that I am not even voting them or pushing for them. They are in my small POE I was considering for the end of day and such. But why are you shoving me on this and rambling about how town this player I am not even voting is? Just what the fuck there?

And past that how about what are your reads. I am pushing Rex. The confirmed town wants it between me, Rex and Bullish in their last post. How about you explain a stance between us you see as holding value.

Like even if you super weirdly awkwardly townread bullish can you explain that? Or maybe explain why me or rex must scum?

going over to casey's iso rn