Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/29/2026 at 9:55 AM (post #210)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/29/2026 at 7:53 AM (post #209)

Anyway, like I said, well played. I'll save more detailed thoughts on the setup for the endgame, but I do think we were almost doomed to lose after a certain point.

Yeah maybe, though our lawyer seemed almost useless in hindsight. Also Banana's role could have screwed us too, we got lucky taking that out. Yours could have been bad if you had targeted pie too.

Yeah, just from the visit it would have been a problem. I considered holding off on saying who I visited NP2 and seeing where that took us, but I ended up just giving that away. Bullish can confirm that I was doing a coin flip between Pie and Vader for that visit, too. Figures we lost that flip.

Also, fwiw, I didn't trust my read on you all the way up to the end. I knew Pie was scum, but I was blind to this specific pairing for a few reasons, which meant I kept having to pick between you and Vader as a possible partner. Some frustrating back-and-forth aside, I didn't think you were scummy, just sus by POE.

I’m so fuckin go done with mafia

Why the fuck did no one listen to me d1 when I told y’all not to let pie get away with that shit

Seriously. Why do I put myself through this shit game after game? No one likes me and no one listens to me.

I’m done

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 10:05 AM (post #213)

I’m so fuckin go done with mafia

Why the fuck did no one listen to me d1 when I told y’all not to let pie get away with that shit

...Dude, I'd been pushing for Pie's lynch for two DPs in a row. DP1 is one thing (where we necessarily have the weakest basis for sussing anyone), but I was repeatedly pointing to him as sus before he even came out with the bogus Dreamer claim.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 8:09 AM (post #214)

Seriously. Why do I put myself through this shit game after game? No one likes me and no one listens to me.

I’m done

I mean I was trying to bus pie there. People like you just fine lol

We all love you kohai. It's just a game bud.

Athena was cop. Game was centered around Magic’s role, either lawyer was useless or strongman was useless.

Ra was a lynch related role.

I won’t have access to my set up until night. Endgame will have to wait.

Originally Posted by Bullish on 9/29/2026 at 10:18 AM (post #218)

Athena was cop.

I won’t have access to my set up until night. Endgame will have to wait.

Given what I know now, that was basically a given. I've got thoughts on that setup, but like I said, they can wait for the endgame.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 10:09 AM (post #214)

Seriously. Why do I put myself through this shit game after game? No one likes me and no one listens to me.

I’m done

I don't know where you're getting this, man. I had you as solid townread through DP2 and was absolutely considering your reads, it was only in DP3 that I started strongly second-guessing them. And of course we like you.

Rip

Fun fact: I totally lied about my justification

Apocalypse mafia Town Kohai - Zombie apocalypse - zombie apocalypses aren't actually that scary, Shaun of the Dead is the best depiction of zombies, they die so easy we'd probably make them pets. You are the stump. After you die you turn into a stump; as stump you may still talk, including at night, but you don't count toward the game and you can't vote.

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 11:17 AM (post #222)

Fun fact: I totally lied about my justification

Apocalypse mafia Town Kohai - Zombie apocalypse - zombie apocalypses aren't actually that scary, Shaun of the Dead is the best depiction of zombies, they die so easy we'd probably make them pets. You are the stump. After you die you turn into a stump; as stump you may still talk, including at night, but you don't count toward the game and you can't vote.

Ya that lie saved tou

Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/29/2026 at 12:25 PM (post #223)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 11:17 AM (post #222)

Fun fact: I totally lied about my justification

Apocalypse mafia Town Kohai - Zombie apocalypse - zombie apocalypses aren't actually that scary, Shaun of the Dead is the best depiction of zombies, they die so easy we'd probably make them pets. You are the stump. After you die you turn into a stump; as stump you may still talk, including at night, but you don't count toward the game and you can't vote.

Ya that lie saved tou

Yeah. No one in their right mind would believe that.

I wouldn’t have gotten Luna / Pie as a team either way in this game tbh so not really mad at myself for getting this wrong. I honestly was stumped and didn’t feel like dragging out the DP to this point

Originally Posted by Vader on 9/29/2026 at 2:51 PM (post #225)

I wouldn’t have gotten Luna / Pie as a team either way in this game tbh so not really mad at myself for getting this wrong. I honestly was stumped and didn’t feel like dragging out the DP to this point

Honestly I doubt I'd have gotten luna / pie either. I'm glad this game is finally over

Even if I didn’t think you were a better option. If I picked Luna or Pie I would’ve swung the other way. They played it well I guess. Don’t understand the Miller setup at all in this game but ok I guess. I would’ve 100% believes Luna cop

The miller essentially did nothing besides cause more dysfunction within the town because there was no way to confirm the miller. If Pie and Luna claimed something different then they would’ve outted me for not having a role connected to the Miller in this game unless they discovered about Athena (which I guess could be possible), but that’s just not a justification for a miller in this game.

Kind of a bummer to be honest.

Originally Posted by Vader on 9/29/2026 at 2:56 PM (post #228)

The miller essentially did nothing besides cause more dysfunction within the town because there was no way to confirm the miller. If Pie and Luna claimed something different then they would’ve outted me for not having a role connected to the Miller in this game unless they discovered about Athena (which I guess could be possible), but that’s just not a justification for a miller in this game.

Kind of a bummer to be honest.

Even if we somehow knew that Athena was the Cop role, that would have absolutely led to Luna’s lynch given that he claimed it, but I would have had to reconsider my read on Pie. I would have had a very hard time believing that your Miller exists solely to modify the result of a role Mag1c could have selected. My sus on Pie might have led me to lynch him anyway, especially given all the made-up extras he added to how the Dreamer works, but it would have been an agonizing final DP if they’d left me alive.

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/endgames/posts/8c/apocalypse-mafia---endgame