My difficulty with parroting Llewella on Brand is that I outlined in #128 why Brand and Random are disconnected, so if Brand is scum, Caine still has to be scum
My difficulty with parroting Llewella on Brand is that I outlined in #128 why Brand and Random are disconnected, so if Brand is scum, Caine still has to be scum
Shotgun style, how quickly can you tell me why Brand is most scum?
If random gets mod killed, I'm out
The thing is, the GF gets final say. Even if you don't want to shoot Gerard, Random, Caine can overrule if he got GF
I get what you are saying, but PR hunting and killing Gerard are one in the same
The problem I'm having is I just see you both as the scum team. I literally don't care if we plurality lynch.
I am not going to engage in OOG commentary. Full stop. I don't have to complain about your behavior to have empathy for the mod. That is all.
Saying I would have been your target as a NK makes 0 sense when I replaced in this DP
If that was the case then him claiming jailor would have saved his ass. No CC and gets confirmed.
Not the case. Once we established that Julian was the jailor, a jailor claim was no longer feasible
Brother, I'm too drunk to repeat myself. I think you set him up for a fake claim and I pointed out the jailor was probably dead and you decided to abandon course. I do think Random's angle shooting was bullshit. I do think they should have been modkilled for logging into their main and exclusively referring to players by OOG names. But I also asked the mod not to kill him because it would solve the game. I am actively choosing to ignore OOG bullshittery
It feels like you were setting them up for a jailor fake claim
You both randomly town blocked each other for basically no reason DP2
You two spamming about OOG bullshit looks like theater
Because Brand and Ramdom look disconnected to my. That means scum team is either you and Brand or you and Random. Either team involves you
A-Caine wrote:
A-Bleys wrote:
I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?
Welcome back. Let’s chat when you get a chance.
And yeah I’ve noticed their absence as well.
We can chat, but I'm also quite drunk. What would you like to talk about?
I'm back a bit early. Llewella never added onto saying they returned?
If you convince me Random is town you can sell me on a Brand vote. But I need to know why Random isn't scum because I have them hard disconnected.
I will almost certainly be able to pop in at least for 3 minutes to change my vote if you are Deidre work out a solve that the two of you buy more. Please think about some of the things I pinged you about earlier
I am at my destination. I will try to check in before the day is over, but even if I can it will be brief.
VTL: A-Caine
In about an hour I need to head out. In just under 2 hours I'll be at my destination and I won't be around for the rest of the DP. Would still love to hear from Llewella and Brand before finalizing my vote.
A-Random wrote:
Not ragebaiting. Just out to eat for mothers day and the day is ending. I was asking for a summary
I will try one more time to explain it to you. You criticized other people for being on the same wagon as you for the same reason as you. That implies you are either trying to derail the wagon to save a teammate, or, more likely, you know the wagon is on town.
A-Random wrote:
Because I said mass claiming was dumb?
You are choosing not to read so I'm going to save my energy for interacting with Deidre and Llewella. I love you, friend, but I will not give you the pleasure of ragebaiting me.
A-Random wrote:
Tldr me how you think there is a slip. Not going to dig.
I literally linked the post.
I do not think there are many worlds where a townie starts a wagon and then proceeds to simultaneously (1) re-justify the wagon and (2) criticize the existence of the wagon. This reeks of a mafia slip. In the s!Brand worlds, Random wants to derail the wagon on his teammate. In the t!Brand worlds, Random knows that the wagon is a mislynch and is preemptively shading the 3 town on the wagon.
Your line reads as if you know the alignment of the other members of the wagon.
I still stand by my thoughts in #128. I'm going to take a bit of a break, but will check in periodically before I go out.
I still think it's sus how Random left Fiona out of their read's list earlier. Really Random reeks of scum. Caine does too. I don't think a Random/Brand team is possible. I think a Random/Caine team or Brand/Caine team is possible. I want to go Caine first, as he's the common denominator. Plus, Brand wants Random first and that's the pairing I have disconnected.
I'm rereading my D1 analysis post. This post still sticks out to me. I am going to quote my earlier analysis, because I am completely convinced that it is accurate:
I believe there's worlds where Brand is town, and worlds where Brand is scum. I think that there are more worlds where Brand is scum, but we will be exploring the implications of both worlds. I do not think there are many worlds where a townie starts a wagon and then proceeds to simultaneously (1) re-justify the wagon and (2) criticize the existence of the wagon. This reeks of a mafia slip. In the s!Brand worlds, Random wants to derail the wagon on his teammate. In the t!Brand worlds, Random knows that the wagon is a mislynch and is preemptively shading the 3 town on the wagon. At this point in my reading I'm heavy scum on Random, moderate scum on Brand.
Obviously at this point I'm more confident in s!Caine than s!Brand, and have had a few reasons to townread Brand. The idea that Random made a scumslip here by leaking too much information of the alignments of the players on the wagon still stands.
Do you not feel that Brand and Random are disconnected in the ways I mentioned in #128?
A-Llewella wrote:
I suppose I explained poorly when I revealed.
Unless the scum team was exactly Caine and Random + the scum team both decided to remove any chance of counter claiming for zero reason then at best there is 1 scum between them. I town read Caine and scum read Random placing 1 of 2 scum between Belys and Brand essentially killing cover. Would also allow the Mafia to select 1 of 2 slots to pool their votes on to target down the Jailor and remove their cover.
I just figure there is zero reason in not mass claiming now though. I have 2 more thoughts I will unpack after everyone has claimed and push for a solve for one of them.
Can you clarify why you believe it cannot be a team of Caine + Random?
Can we close the theater for an intermission?