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Claims List
Caine- Vanilla Town
Martin- Vanilla Town- Reads: Post 559, dp1
Flora- Vanilla Town- Reads: Post 358, dp1
Unclaimed
Deidre- Reads: Post 540, dp1
Gerard- Reads: Post 276, 478 dp1
Julian- Reads: Post 626, dp1
Llewella
Oberon
Random
Fiona
Bleys
Brand
A-Flora wrote:
You’re misconstruing everything I have said this entire DP. You refuse to acknowledge that this strategy was acknowledged by multiple other people as being valid. Yet you’re still pursuing me because it’s shitty logic. Everyone else is saying it’s fine, except you. At some point you have to look in the mirror and realize you’re just plainly wrong. I’m done responding to you. If anyone has any questions, they can ask me
Wise strategy.
A-Random wrote:
How sure are you its pie. You read him well and I am pretty sure your town
I would never say I am "Sure" Of anything, but his reaction here seems to follow the last time I remember trying to lynch him after I caught his bus on Casey a few years ago. Tons of insults, hyper posting defensiveness, threatening to rub it in my face when I am wrong, just every manipulative manuever in the book was thrown at me.
Bleys- Wylted
Brand- Thoth
Deidre- Whiteflame
Fiona- Rex?bullish?
Flora- Pie
Gerard- Lunatic
Julian- Rex? Bullish?
Llewella- Helz
Oberon- Magic
Random- Mikal
Caine- Kohai
Martin- Banana
Mago says we have 2 hours left. Not sure if I can stay up for two more hours, but I have a sinking feeling if I crash then pie gets away with this lol. Do I wanna fuck up my sleep schedule for the sake of a game? Hmm...
"Lynch is plurality with majority (hammering enabled). If no majority is achieved, the player with the highest number of votes on them at EoD gets lynched. Ties resolved by RNG."
Post 2 of the set up thread.
If we don't pick someone out of these two this will be resolved by RNG
A-Flora wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Are you autistic?
Yeah I remember the insult slinging came hard in the game you bussed casey as well. Let the rage flow through you my friend. Get it all out. Sorry that win record gets a blemish, but its gotta happen.
Lol, I know I am town. The only way it gets a blemish is if town loses, and if it does, you’re going to be a direct part of it.
Yeah, yeah, you knew you were town in Ruyi Zhuan too. "i CaN cOnFiRm MySeLf ToMorRoW" If this is anyone else saying this you dismiss it out of hand as wifom, why should you get a pass lol
I never said we should lynch through all 6 vanillas. I’m saying in the worst case there are 6 vanillas, there’s still a 33% chance. Even higher with the lesser number
Regardless random lynching through vanillas when you think there could be six of them instead of trying to read people, then tunneling that logic all day phase has got to be the stupidest town play I have ever seen from you here, which is why I struggle to buy you are town.
So you think Oberon, Random, and Deidre are all stupid, and Llewella, who you scumread is the only smart person? Take a look in mirror lmfao.
Dis-agreeing with them =/= thinking they are stupid. You are starting to gaslight me a lot, which makes you looking scum a little more obvious. If you are town, I will take that into heavy consideration with them in the future. I am open to being humbled after a mislynch. But the more this interaction continues, the less likely I feel that this will be a mislynch.
A-Random wrote:
It was a bait
Wanted to see if he would entertain it. The fact that he entertained it. Implies they are prob not in the game
Or he didn't think of it lol
If we know who everyone is what difference does it make lol
A-Random wrote:
Putting my yes here
If you do not agree in this thread. I say we lynch them
You willing to give up your main accounts password and let scum take over your account if they have a disguiser?
Magoroth wrote:
A-Random wrote:
Can we please just use our main accounts. Everyone has broken the rules with this. Should just mod kill us all at this point. But the rate that you are allowing it. Id rather just be on my account and others on theirs. Would increase my interest 10 fold
I’ll agree to this if everyone in the game privately says “yes” or “no” to it.
How would roles like Disguiser and Ty'iga that take over a persons account work if we were on our mains? Would we have to give up our passwords to our accounts? If so thats a hard no
Are you autistic?
Yeah I remember the insult slinging came hard in the game you bussed casey as well. Let the rage flow through you my friend. Get it all out. Sorry that win record gets a blemish, but its gotta happen.
I never said we should lynch through all 6 vanillas. I’m saying in the worst case there are 6 vanillas, there’s still a 33% chance. Even higher with the lesser number
Regardless random lynching through vanillas when you think there could be six of them instead of trying to read people, then tunneling that logic all day phase has got to be the stupidest town play I have ever seen from you here, which is why I struggle to buy you are town.
A-Flora wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
Im saying lynch Martin. I am doing exactly what I said I would do. Let the people duke it out. I am duking it out. Either get 3 more people or stfu and stop cluttering the DP cause both Deidre and Oberon and Random agree with my plan and the one person who doesn’t, you scumread.
If Martin flips town, what the fuck did we learn from her lynch? Wagon analysis? We get the same thing from lynching an inactive, while removing the problem of an inactive lol.
So you’re saying you want to lynch an inactive over Martin when you objectively know scum are likely to claim Vanilla this early on in the game
So you’re saying you want to lynch an inactive over Martin when you objectively know scum are likely to claim Vanilla this early on in the game
I would lynch an inactive over an active player who I do not scum read yes. And for this repeated song and dance of "scum are objectively likely to claim vanilla" it really makes no sense why you are so opposed to abiding to your own plan when it involves you.
A-Flora wrote:
A-Gerard wrote:
This is ironic coming from you when you scumread me because I didn’t fight. Selective memory.
What game are you referencing lol. I never thought that about you. You always fight tooth and nail, town or scum. When was the last time you were ever even lynched?
Lol you were the one who lynched me in Madoka
I wasn't in madoka homie
Im saying lynch Martin. I am doing exactly what I said I would do. Let the people duke it out. I am duking it out. Either get 3 more people or stfu and stop cluttering the DP cause both Deidre and Oberon and Random agree with my plan and the one person who doesn’t, you scumread.
If Martin flips town, what the fuck did we learn from her lynch? Wagon analysis? We get the same thing from lynching an inactive, while removing the problem of an inactive lol.
You have got to be on crack. I have never said that all 6 people have to have the town roles. If anything it was the opposite. I said in a 12 player game, let’s ASSUME 6 townies are truly Vanillas. Out of 9 townies, 6 are Vanilla. And THEN you have a 33% chance lmfao
If you assume there are 6 vanillas, the prospect of wanting to lynch through vanillas gurantees a heavy liklihood of mislynches. Like it's such bad logic bro
This is ironic coming from you when you scumread me because I didn’t fight. Selective memory.
What game are you referencing lol. I never thought that about you. You always fight tooth and nail, town or scum. When was the last time you were ever even lynched?
So Flora is claiming Vanilla, after shoving mech analysis all day phase that we should lynch within vanillas, but somehow thinks he should be exempt from that same logic. He should be happy we are testing his hypothesis by lynching him. Why is throwing a tantrum at the prospect of getting lynched? He gets his way.
I’m the architect of the plan that puts me on the chopping block, yes. Ofc that makes me scum right lol
You are utterly unwilling to consider the prospect of multiple vanillas when the open set up thread tells us there are multiple vanillas. You are basing your math on the assumption that all 6 town roles are in the game, when the mod directly told us they aren't neccesarily there, giving option for more vanillas. You were a vanilla this whole time who didn't consider for a second that there could be 3 vanillas or more lol
BTW looked how turned up Flora is getting. This reminds me heavily of the game when I called out his bus on casey. Trying to remember the name of the game.
I’ll take your word for it that you’ll put me at L-2. I’m Vanilla as well. So now let’s see Luna tangle with *checks notes* voting a Vanilla and following the exact same strategy I said.
You shouldn't have a problem with it since it's your plan right?
Thats just false - I had a sound plan in mind which a lot of people agreed to. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your claims. You yourself admitted that you’re playing differently this game compared to last game because you knew you were mod confirmed town. I’ve spent this entire DP rejecting your arguments and posted my reads. You have abolished any semblance of even pursuing anyone. If anyone has been death tunneling, it’s you. I’ve refuted your argument multiple times. Even Deidre sees where I’m coming from.
You keep using ad populum as if you arent the largest wagon next to Brand right now; Trying to say everyone agrees with you doesn't work when it's clearly false. I haven't been death tunneling you, and I have many many fleshed out reads, way more than you have. You chose to spend this entire day phase tunneling one line of logic and refusing to back off of it under any circumstance.
That’s your opinion lol.
You literally just asked me for my opinion on why you were scummy.
Have you even isoed me?
A lot actually. I have a tab up with your ISO as we speak.
But I’ve spent most of time arguing back and forth with you because of your shitty death tunneling.
I have been far from death tunneling you. I have put a significant amount of pressure on Brand and Llewella as well. Both of them have improved their behavior in at least some minor capacity, where you have just stuck to your guns like you always do when your scum. You have had three days to cook. I told you I would let you cook, and you chose not to. You stuck to one like of logic and repeated it ad nauseum the entire fucking game bro. If your claim vindicates you I won't lynch you. That's not a death tunnel. If you are vanilla you are a hypocrite and probably just scum.
You’re just like boo hoo, I’m voting Flora cause I behaviorally scum read them with no objective
The fuck does that even mean? lol you aren't even making sense now.
That’s just false lol, I responded to her and I explained to Brand replacement why she’s scum. The MO is the exact same. Poke at a few places, follow the same wagons, etc. She manufactured her “reads” last game and yall townread her for it lol
Bro I was only ever on the two successful scum lynches, that I fucking led btw, and I fucking was the first one to die lol. What do you mean "Ya'll townread her"?!
It’s cause im the only one willing to put the time in to defend myself. Everyone else doesn’t give a shit. I’m probably one of the only people who give a shit about playing this game in an optimal game to win, which is why I have one of the best ELOs. You and Llewella who you coincidentally scumread are the only people who think this play is not suboptimal
Are you trying to sell me some bs that if you were scum you wouldn't defend yourself? Do you expect me to buy that?
So how are you going to deal with it the remainder of the game if *checks notes* you want to lynch me.
I'll tell you in the endgame that you should have focused something other than an easy mech focus for the entirety of dp1 and move on with my life.
Crickets on criticism of Oberon agreeing with me lmfao. You just seem to have a hard on when I do it, but not when Oberon stated he agrees 100% and Deidre is basically on board. At some point you have to realize you’re being retarded and people that are also good agree with someone who is also good. And the one person who doesn’t, you scumread lol
Diedre and Oberon agreeing with you =/= Everyone? How do I know they aren't scum with you? Why do you think I said "Interesting, noted." To Diedre? I am not as surprised about Oberon. TBH his town game isn't as strong as his scum game IMO, other than it usually being obvious when he's town, so the fact that it's not obvious to me yet is giving me red flag anyway.
Literally go read my response to when she posted her “reads” on DP1. I said there was something fishy. And literally why would I jailkeep her if I was not sus of her lol. Lucky my ass lmfao. You got fooled by her the entire game. Last game it wasn’t safe to claim Vanilla, this game it’s the safest, plus she claimed with zero pressure.
You asked her to claim, she claimed. Look at any Martin game ever where she is town and tell me she doesn't do that. Again the one time she didn't recently (last game) she was scum.
If town wants to lynch a person who has shown they’re willing to respond to people, where multiple people agree with him on the strategy, then they’re retarded lol.
Being willing to respond to people is completely AI for your scum game though. Posting in a way that is helpful towards establishing healthy reads, giving multiple directions to pursue, and being open minded is something you haven't done. For all the accusations of me death tunneling, your scum reads being largely the same as it was in your first few posts should be pretty telling to people here.
A-Deirdre wrote:
Btw, I've asked Magoroth about this. I know we've talked about doing the crytography plus this secret key. From what he's told me, the key has to be guessable, so we can't just put this into an encryption site, generate a result, and generate a key. It would have to all be breakable by hand.
I literally asked him if we could and he said yes, so we are getting conflicting info
A-Random wrote:
I think there is a small possibility of bleys and Gerald being scum. The opening introduction seems like theater.
Lol okay well neither of us are likely to be lynched at the moment and we have two and a half hours left. Are you caught up?
Would your priority for a third claim still be Brand at this point?
We have no indication that Brand will even be online in the next 2 and a half hours when the day phase closes. If you buy flora is town that is fine, but since he is holding up the wagon on his claim, would you help put him at l-2? If he has a role other than vanilla, we can at least move on from this and use our remaining time to decide what we will do.
What behavioral reasons are you talking about? I’ve already explained why you cannot directly compare my behavior to previous game. You yourself said you can’t compare your own behavior to the previous game, so it’s ironic that you’re using that here.
You are death tunneling a mech lynch and pretending like its some end all be all analysis, while not pursuing any behavior like at all. Your reads in 358 were extremely lack luster, and scum reads are extremely weak. I think you haven't spent your time this day phase optimally. Being town confirmed and different sure. Barely asking any questions though? That's not like town pie. And even when your questions were answered it never changed or effected your stance on people. Martin responded to your read on her, you said nothing. You questioned and doubled down on lynching her at every point. It's not a secret that you have the biggest ego on the site, and having the top ELO you can back it up a bit, but as scum I think we both know you think you are immune from early lynches, especially when people like Rex and Wylted constantly repeat how pursuing you in early day phases is a waste of time. And while I would love to interact with a town version with you here, I don't get the vibe that this is you. I am open to being wrong, and if your claim changes that read drastically then I will take that into account when dealing with you for the remainder of the game. I don't think a vanilla claim is going to change that for me though.
As for the Vanilla tactic. There are people like Oberon who agree with me and there are crickets coming from you on that.
I alone make up more than a 1/4 of the total posts in this game so far, I have responded to every single most you made. Yeah nothing but crickets over here lol
And yes, I can read Martin pretty well. I got her last game in DP1, and I’ve gotten her in other games as well early on. The fact she just claimed Vanilla with zero pressure (very low risk for scum to do that since I hadn’t even said my tactic at that point).
You got her last game on false jailkeep results, she said this in the endgame thread. You were right for the wrong reasons, and got lucky lol. And every game Martin has ever played in she claims early. Last game was the one exception, and look at that, she was scum.
I’ll full claim at L-2. But your read is asinine.
Day phase is fast coming to an end, so wait at your own peril.
Why do you townread Martin?
It's more of a light town read, but they definitely aren't a lynch priority. I liked their reads and answers to my questions though.
I can't say I fully agree with Flora's reasoning for pursuing VTs, particularly in the numbers game, but I get it well enough that I don't think he's scummy. I'd like a third claim and I wouldn't mind if it's him, but he's not my priority atm.
Interesting. Noted.
You’re literally following the strat I’m following lmaoo but okay. I specifically said that you can pick the third person. I also have posted my reads. I prefer Brands slot to claim and then lynch Brands or Martin for behavioral reasons. Also would be fine replacing Brands with Llewella
Except I want to lynch you for behavioral reasons and the behavioral reason you want to lynch martin for is... perceived passive aggressiveness? Really? But we are 3 hours away form EOD so if your letting me choose the third person, lets let it be you, because at this point I am ready to lynch you, or default an inactive if you are confirmed.
I literally said in my first post that I’m assuming that there are 6 vanillas. If there are even less then that, then odds are even better than 33% lol. It’s literally math. And you also realize that if I claim Vanilla, I know that I’m 100% a vanilla and that makes it less likely that other people are. So from my POV if 3 other people claim Vanilla, 3/8 are likely to be scum aka 37.5%.
Are you claiming vanilla or is this all wifom?
Lmfao. So you’re fine lynching Vanillas too?
Why wouldn't I be? I haven't been anti-lynching vanilla, its anti-lynching someone JUST for being vanilla lol.
Say I claim Vanilla. Have you considered that it means that Caine and Martin are less likely to be town from my POV?
Like I said, bare minimum there is 2-3 vanillas, and potentially more. 6 towns roles potentially exist, but according to mago some of them may not exist. If that's the case there are likely even more vanillas. And yes I think its scummy for you not to have realized that and pushed someone simply for being vanilla.
