Banana

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 11:02 AM (post #329)

We've got an hour left. Is everyone comfortable with where their are votes out? Two similarly sized wagons is interesting, probably a good thing overall, but I want to get some clarification from people about their votes and if this is where they are comfortable staying.

i am here. im still confortable on vader, his roleblocker claim doesnt move me much. i have been town roleblocker a few times as well, but his behavior seems very relaxed for him being one of the top wagons

ok ive gone through vader a bit more and i think im probably gonna vote him here

the biggest thing for me is that i dont really see much original solving from him. a lot of his reads are reactions to things other people are already talking about, and even when he gives reads theyre usually pretty hedged

the magic thing is what bothers me the most. i think vader was fair to question magics pie progression, so i dont think the suspicion itself is fake, but when it came time to actually vote he basically said he was good with magic if thats where we wanted to go. that feels more reactive than like he independently decided magic was his strongest target

and then looking back at the rest of his reads i dont really see a strong progression or a clear person he was actually trying to solve

i could be wrong obviously but out of the people im willing to vote today, vader is the one where i feel like im getting the least genuine solving from

vtl vader

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/22/2026 at 1:53 AM (post #249)

ok, let’s move onto Vader then.

yeah im down to look at vader

but i dont wanna just move onto vader because you said so lol. i wanna see what hes actually done that makes him worth looking at

ill reread his posts and see if theres an actual case there or if were just moving from one person to the next

ok i think im done going back and forth on magic/lunatic for now lol

i dont really wanna vote either of them anymore. magic has explained the pie thing enough that im not seeing it as scummy, and lunatic seems like hes genuinely trying to figure out the progression

so im gonna focus on vader / whiteflame / jen and look for who is actually solving vs just reacting to everyone else

i dont wanna just vote whoever feels weird tho, i wanna find someone where i can actually point to a specific thing that looks more scummy than towny

probably gonna reread those 3 before i settle my vote

i think both of you are kinda talking past each other at this point lol

magic, i dont think lunatic is saying that changing reads is scummy. i think his issue is just that some of the changes feel bigger than the reasons he was given for them. i dont think thats an unreasonable thing to question

lunatic, i also think youre maybe giving magic less credit than he deserves here. he wasnt just like "i reread pie and decided hes town." he said he was putting too much weight on the previous game and once he got past that he thought pies pressure on kohai could actually make sense as a reaction test

i think the bigger thing for me is that both of you are starting to argue about how the other one is arguing instead of the actual reads lol

lunatic keeps saying magic isnt explaining it enough and magic keeps saying lunatic is being disingenuous or trying to control the conversation. neither of those things really gets us anywhere

from where im sitting, i actually think both of you look more town because of this

right now id probably leave both of you as town and look somewhere else for scum because i dont think this fight is getting us anywhere anymore

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/22/2026 at 1:16 AM (post #241)

Regardless of what people want to do here, one thing that needs to happen is we NEED softs from pie, Jen, and Banana. Probably something a bit more from kohai as well. A mass soft doesn't work if half the player base are choosing not to participate.

my soft: mine is one of those apocalypses where the threat isnt really something you can prepare for in the normal sence

ok catching up now, gonna try to put some reads down so i can actually keep track of where im at

thoth - town lean

i still think the role pm thing is pretty weird to fake this early. i dont think its a hard clear because obviously we dont know exactly what scum were given but i dont really see why scum would draw that much attention to themselves this early

pie - slight town lean

i think i like pie more than i did before. hes been pretty aggressive but at least hes actually pushing people and trying to get answers. i still wanna look more at the pie/kohai thing tho because idk if im fully sold on either of them

kohai - slight town lean

i think his reasoning for not wanting to claim makes sense. especially with scum having a fake claim. i also liked his answers when i was questioning him more than i expected to. still dont really wanna hard town him tho

magic - town lean

i actually think i understand the magic reads more after catching up

i dont really see the changing reads as a big problem tbh. the game is still pretty early and there were a lot of people who hadnt really posted much when some of those reads were made. if he started with a pie read and then went back and reread him and realized he had some confirmation bias i dont think thats inherently scummy

i also dont really buy the idea that having multiple possible scum worlds means hes trying to keep his options open. theres not really enough information yet to expect everyone to have a solved game. hes also already put actual scumreads on people instead of just sitting in the middle on everyone

i think the thoth read makes sense too. i dont know if id call thoth lock town from it but i understand why magic would see that as unlikely to be a scum play

lunatic - slight scum lean

this is probably the one im most unsure about but i dont love the case on magic

a lot of it feels like "your reads changed so i think youre keeping your options open" and idk if thats enough for me. magic has explained why his reads changed and i dont think lunatic is really giving enough weight to those explanations

also the way lunatic is pushing this feels kinda weird to me. theres a lot of talk about magic being "safe" but im not really seeing a specific thing magic has done thats actually scummy

i dont think lunatic is necessarily scum from this but i think id rather look at this slot more before i decide

vader - null/slight town

i actually kinda like some of what vader said about magic. the fact that hes independently questioning the pie progression makes me wanna look at him more

not enough here for me to really call him town tho

whiteflame - null

i dont really have a strong read here yet but i think theres a little more to look at than just "hasnt posted enough"

some of what whiteflame has said feels reasonable and i havent really seen anything that makes me think hes trying to force a bad narrative or anything. at the same time i dont feel like ive seen enough from him to really know where hes trying to take the game

so for now im mostly null but i wanna see more from him before i move him either way

jen - null

jen is kinda similar for me but i think im a little more interested in this slot

i feel like ive seen some thoughts from jen but i havent really figured out what the overall progression is supposed to be yet. like i can understand individual points but i dont really know what jen is actually trying to solve right now

could just be because im catching up and missing some context tho so i dont wanna force a scum read from that

overall im probably not voting magic right now. i think his explanations make sense enough that im not really seeing the scum angle there.

i think lunatic is making a pretty big case out of something that might just be normal town behavior. changing reads isnt inherently scummy and magic has actually explained why some of his reads changed

i also dont really like the way lunatic keeps framing it as magic being "safe" because im not sure what magic could realistically do differently here. theres still a bunch of people who havent really posted much so obviously reads are gonna be pretty fluid

i dont think lunatic is necessarily wrong about magic but i think hes more interested in making the magic progression look suspicious than actually figuring out why magic changed his reads

did u vote pie because his behavior was scummy, or because u thought his demand for you to claim was harmful to the game? if neither, plz explain.

what specifically seperates pie as mafia here from his town aggressiveness to create reactions?

is pie a genuine read or just someone u are annoyed with?

what were u hoping to accomplish with the counter vote?

when u said ur character justification and role dont fit together, why did you reveal that information, and what did u expect town to infer from it?

could that statement explain an incoherent fake claim you were setting up? why should we not intepret it that way?

who besides pie has treated your conflict oppertunistically in your opinion?

if pie flipped town and you were an investigator, who would you investigate and why?

can you rank the rest of the players in order of most suspicious to least suspicious?

is kohai still just a pressure vote? if not what post by him made u think he was mafia?

how useful even is a claim here from him when we know that mafia have a likely fake claim based on the op?

when magic suspected both you and kohai why did you tell him to vote kohai rather than address his suspicion of you?

assuming kohai is town, who is most likely exploiting your push?

outside of kohai, can you give one mafia read and one town read based on the content of the game?

what about your push on kohai right now sets you apart as town from other pushes, like the one on thoth in the previous game? in otherwords, why is this push AI when we now know the one on thoth last game was scum motivated?

just got caught up.

okay from readin dp1 heres my analsis:

my strongest scum read is pie. he pushes kohai without any sort of devloped case in 19, immediately dmanding a full clam and asks several ppl to join the wagon. the vote itself can be dismissed as pie being pie, but it does feel ultra aggressive that pie is treating kohai as likely scum without explaining what kohai actually did, then kohai has been very active and contributing to it makes no sense to push him this strongly. in post 39 he manufactures urgency bcuz the day will end in a last minute cfd with no scum elimination but that argument is a hard sell this early on in the game with an extended dp and before much of the roster has even talked, including jenkiggans. i agree with whiteflame chalklenging pie pushing so hard in these circumstances. next, his goal appears to be consolidation rather than investigation. when magic names both pie and kohai as suspects, pie does not adress seriously why he is being suspected by magic, and instead tells magic to vote kohai, which is a convienent attempt to redirect a two sided suspicion entirely onto kohai rather than himself. he is using an earlier game as camoflauge rather than investigation and justification. i think we have seen enough growth and development from kohai though to say that he has improved enough to the point where early pressure is no longer jsutified in every game he is in. it seems more like a deliberate attempt to reproduce the behavior everyone now expects from pie as town. lastly the main reason i suspect pie is that this is just tunneling at this point. while town can tunnel, i would expect some progression to continue justifying his tunnel. if he was getting valid reactions and responses to his tunnel to push a strong conviction, that would be another thing. he is avoiding all pressure on himself and instead just repeatedly dying on the hill that people should wagon his attempt to push kohai into an early claim. by post 120, the push just seems more performative and agenda driven than evidence driven, so pie is my preferred target.

now im not gonna say i town read kohai either, i do scum read him too, but its less than pie. the immediate countervote seems very defensive. refusing an unjustified claim is reasonable, but immediately converting the disagreement into a scum read is less convincing. his case on pie also relies heavily on the last game. kohai presents pies ambiguous meta as more incriminating than it really is. i also am not the biggest fan of his role soft claim. it reads very awkward. this might be an honest warning about a strange setup, but it could also preemptively explain a planned fake claim. i see magic notices this as well. overall he is setting up a safe adversarial relationship with pie. if him and pie are partners a loud and early conflict would give them distance. i dont think its the case tho because the early attention looks bad and forces a claim out of one of the two.

magic is a mild suspect, only because his initial suspicion of pie and kohai being scum together is broad and thinly explained. it seems a bit like he is keeping both options open, with pie as his primary target and kohai as a secondary suspect, which is a comfortable position. criticize the loudest push without committing to the target, preserve both sides as possible mafia and maintain flexibility over the eventual wagon. that said i kind of agree with him so i dont really suspect him full on, just being watchful of the position he is placing himself in so far. a lot of his musing have seemed helpful and thought out. he has a structured set of reads, questions suspicious role softs, and is actively requesting more from other players which is more constructive than what several others have provided.

i think thoth is a safe town read. his opening statement that the game description conflicts with his role pm is conspicuous, and the later statement that the pm itself is factually incorrect is strange. however volunteering such a potentially verififiable role so early creates unneed exposure for mafia. thoth also votes pie instead of being oppertunistic and boarding the kohai train pie attempted to bully people into. im mostly towning him from his role soft tho.

with vader, he has contributed less than i would prefer, but multiple players respond positively to him and nothing he has said has hinted at a clear agenda or any contradiction in his thoughts. its a very light town lean, and lately his posts have been shared skepticism over pies aggression so that might be why i town read him.

lunatics analysis seems thoughtful, i would like to see more from him before i really decide on what to do with him.

whiteflame challenging pies artificial urgency, and suggestion of limited and voluntary softs to create discussion is seeming pro town. he is actually using soft information to develop nuanced evaultion rathan than forcing the interactions into a predetermined alignment. the approach looks transparent and exploratory, though, and him not taking a strong stance in the pie/kohai thing besides just questioning pies aggression looks less agenda driven to me.

anyways sorry for being late, i didnt realize this was posted yet, havent checked discord a lot. i will be active from here on out.

Originally Posted by Thoth on 9/9/2026 at 8:25 PM (post #15)

Originally Posted by Bullish on 9/9/2026 at 8:39 PM (post #14)

4 more boys and girls

And other notes found in Ghislaine Maxwell's day planner

thats not appropriate...

also /in

scum wins, scum was kohai and pie. lunatic was yakuzad.

most pms already posted but if you wanna know someones role lmk ill post it.

sorry to see it end in a no lynch... :/

well that was anticlamtic

game is over. Scum win.

Lunatic, pie, and kohai win the game.

if u look at the top of the page it tells you exactly how much time u have

Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/3/2026 at 10:22 PM (post #1095)

When does the day phase end?

sept 5th at 11am

Mikal:

wylted:

kohai:

lunatic cannot vote or be voted for today.

Rexfavilla:

not enough votes were submitted to the information, so we are defaulting to a "no" answer. plz send in night actions soon

1 hour remainin guys

im banana and i approve this message

hello guys welcome to my 2nd game. this is based on the tv show called "from". its a sci fi horror show about survivors who get stuck in a town they cannot leave, where mysterious and terrifying things happen at night, and people must remain indoors or risk being killed.

all role pm's were made with ai, i just put in some basic details about the character and what role i wanted, and ai did the rest, i made sure to fix any mistakes i saw with them, so hopefully thats all ironed out. most roles are from mafia universes role list.

this game as 7 town, 2 mafia. at the start of the game all town players must choose to vote yes or no. if 4 town players vote yes before the end of the day phase, i will tell you one of mafias roles publicly, however mafia will gain an advantage. if 4 townies vote no, then nothing happens and the game continues as normal. all votes must be made privately, but must be made before the end of dp1. if a majority isnt reached before end of dp1, i will default it to a "no" win.

mafia were given 2 options at the start. option 1 is they can ask 4 questions about roles or characters in the game. option 2 was they get 2 characters and no questions.

im going to follow the no questions policy after some of the stuff that happened in last game to avoid any issues. i will only answer questions privately, and only answer questions about ur own role.

good luck have fun everyone!

player list:

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai

7 wylted

8 RexFavilla

9 magoroth

sub: mikal

it takes 5 votes to reach a majority lynch.

3 days is time limit for dp, 24 hour np

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai

7 wylted

8 RexFavilla

9 magoroth

ill send out role pms

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai

7 wylted

8 RexFavilla

9

XD

i can probably do this with 9 if kohai subs and we get 1 more

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai (sub)

7 wylted

8 RexFavilla

9

10

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai (sub)

7 wylted

8

9

10

1 casey

2 pie

3 thoth

4 mag1cman

5 luna

6 kohai (sub)

7

8

9

10

good luck guys. i think scum is in magic/rex based on behavior. mostly based on gut