i am not bothered by long day cycles, a week sounds a bit long, 3 days is fine with me. u just never know where ur gonna be in a week or how busy its gonna be so shorter commitments are nice
i am not bothered by long day cycles, a week sounds a bit long, 3 days is fine with me. u just never know where ur gonna be in a week or how busy its gonna be so shorter commitments are nice
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/11/2026 at 1:54 AM (post #325)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/11/2026 at 9:37 (post #324)
also say what u will about our site and its meta, but 300+ posts in lylo with only 5 players left and half the dp remaining is a lot of content to work through. i think at this point it is more about getting everyone aligned on the same thinking that we are struggling with. but thats pretty healthy for lylo i think
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/11/2026 at 4:45 (post #301)
my next game it's 24 hours days and 12 hour nights just to teach you guys proper pacing
Then my next one will be MS style, days last one week and 48h and no early hammers
note to self: skip that game
also say what u will about our site and its meta, but 300+ posts in lylo with only 5 players left and half the dp remaining is a lot of content to work through. i think at this point it is more about getting everyone aligned on the same thinking that we are struggling with. but thats pretty healthy for lylo i think
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/11/2026 at 12:18 AM (post #322)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/11/2026 at 1:08 AM (post #320)
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 11:16 PM (post #319)
The mechanical focus on voting in the Lylo is good. I think the pre-flip association hunting focus is hurting independent reads.
D1 was dogshit. I think I literally had 2 or 3 posts and gave more than most players in the game. We failed to break RVS and I was part of that problem. I just did not have the time. We also failed to make a counter train.
D2 was also dogshit but because Wylted decided to fast hammer before conversation could even be had. There was hardly even a train. We had a pressure vote and they just shut out conversation with a fast hammer before the player could even claim. That looks scummy in itself but put us in a situation where we basically are having a D3 with just about a D1 level of knowledge. And yet again there is pressure to just shut up and vote? No. Not just no but fuck no.
Pairings and mech are useful. We could really use more individual reads though. Explanations of positions and reads. If people thought I was posting walls before wait until I drop what I have been working on. Lol.
But yeah, I think rushing the day for a vote is just a bad idea. And I think we should all focus more on basic reads and hunting than hypotheticals. If I was scum right now I would not just be positioning for todays kill but setting up for the next days kill demanding 2 people are paired to lock in the win and argue tomorrow "Well this person flipped whatever so that other person must be the scum"
with all due respect, if u r going to be posting read walls i think the only person who may be affected by them is potentially rex. im basically skimming most of what u write, unless its in regards to u convincing me u r more town than rex. thats the only behavior that matters to me. i have basically written of mago as scum and wylted as town, no read on them will impact me.
Fair. And I appreciate the honesty there.
I will just say this as simply as I can. There are things you do to convince others and be seen doing things and there are things you just do for yourself to say "I did everything I could"
I never regret the games I lost that I put it all out there. Where I worked hard and did everything I could. I very much regret when I play a game and just half ass it. The last game I got a win and I still regret having it knowing how much more I could have done.
Even if everything I say nobody listens to I signed for this game and I will damn well play it. Its a principle thing independent of the impact I have with what I do and say that matters to me. Same as the challenges I give myself.
I do secretly have the hope of changing the meta of this site into something that can grow but thats a separate ambition I am poorly following through on.
i appreciate u wanting to try ur hardest to make a good game, i really do. but theres is there a point when we arguing just to argue doesnt really accomplish anything? thats all i am trying to say. i am happy for u to contribute, but i dont want to beat a dead horse, and i feel like the issue of of mago/wylted is pretty much dead and solved, so its just beating a dead horse. if you want to write a novel about why i should town read u over rex, that is something i wouldnt skim, i would take that very much into consideration going forward.
its not out of laziness either just kind of out of exhaustion. ive accepted wylted as town and mago as scum as basic fact, im kind of just waiting for one of u and rex to come to that conclusion. from my pov with the votes where they are at, its the only thing that makes sense. post ur walls if u want to, but if u want better engagement with me u should be telling me why u are more town than rex, thats the only argument that matters anymore. but if u think u can appeal to rex by slaving away making read walls u do u
i feel like we are at a scientific breakthrough where scientists have discovered the world is round instead of flat. me and wylted are the only ones who have moved on to the new way of thinking, we are just waiting for u all to catch up now lol
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 11:16 PM (post #319)
The mechanical focus on voting in the Lylo is good. I think the pre-flip association hunting focus is hurting independent reads.
D1 was dogshit. I think I literally had 2 or 3 posts and gave more than most players in the game. We failed to break RVS and I was part of that problem. I just did not have the time. We also failed to make a counter train.
D2 was also dogshit but because Wylted decided to fast hammer before conversation could even be had. There was hardly even a train. We had a pressure vote and they just shut out conversation with a fast hammer before the player could even claim. That looks scummy in itself but put us in a situation where we basically are having a D3 with just about a D1 level of knowledge. And yet again there is pressure to just shut up and vote? No. Not just no but fuck no.
Pairings and mech are useful. We could really use more individual reads though. Explanations of positions and reads. If people thought I was posting walls before wait until I drop what I have been working on. Lol.
But yeah, I think rushing the day for a vote is just a bad idea. And I think we should all focus more on basic reads and hunting than hypotheticals. If I was scum right now I would not just be positioning for todays kill but setting up for the next days kill demanding 2 people are paired to lock in the win and argue tomorrow "Well this person flipped whatever so that other person must be the scum"
with all due respect, if u r going to be posting read walls i think the only person who may be affected by them is potentially rex. im basically skimming most of what u write, unless its in regards to u convincing me u r more town than rex. thats the only behavior that matters to me. i have basically written of mago as scum and wylted as town, no read on them will impact me.
I agree with your take that Mag vs Wylted is likely TvW
if u agree about this, so much of the rest of the theory stuff doesnt really matter. u should trim a lot of thoughts down and focus on who is the scum partner of the the those two, and if wylted is scum why he wasnt mag hammered yet. what does scum gain from milking this? why would wylted be pushing so hard to rush the dp if if they were bussing, whilst letting his partner drag it out? if mago is scum, it makes sense he hasnt been lyncched if me and wylted are both town. while i appreciate that u r trying to break down behavior so much, this is a situation that factors mechanics over behavior. the votes have been cast, forcing limited options for scum pairs to exist. all this long posts u keep making are just unnecccesarym its time to trim the fat and focus on the important aspects. not trying to rush u like wylted is, more just trying to get u to focus attention on the more important aspects of the lylo situation we are in.
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 9:15 PM (post #312)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 10:02 PM (post #307)
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 7:15 PM (post #277)
Why do you take their role claim for granted? It looks overcrowded for PR's with a flipped Doc+BD+Alignment Cop+RB before even considering the claims.
two investigations isnt absurd for games here, more than 2 i would prolly start raising my eyebrows. their is a lot of scum roles on the town side it seems as well. but anyways im not really taking his role for granted, its more his slot and the way things happened this dp hes pretty lock town for me.
Sure they could have made a 'different fake claim' but we could WIFOM that all day. Going direct 1v1 would be open confrontation and it does not seem like Wylted handles that well. Any thoughts on them forgetting their own role name and openly admitting they do not consider the other role they claimed to do the same thing they do? Seems like something that you would not forget. Would be a smudge below forgetting your alignment.
listen, u wont convince me that wylted is anything other than town. i dont think picking apart his mistakenly calling the role the wrong name is a good look either. u seem to be nit picking wierd things, just like u r nit picking me for incorrectly remembering by sussing u more than he did. u spend an unnecccesary amount of time picking at things like this, and really don't spend a lot of time looking into ppl like rex and mago, i think that is interesting. u r trying to turn this into a me and wylted vs everyone else scenario. thats the main reason i have doubts about u. admittedly rex doesnt look good either, but u convincing me rex is scum is ur only real play here, because i have thrown my lot in with wylted. i know i am town, and i voted with wylted so if mago is town he would have been quick hammered. there is no reason for that not to be the case. i am not buying into any elaborate bus theories between wylted and you or wylted and mago. the only option for scum pairing in my eyes is mago/you mago/rex. thats it. u would have a better use of time trying to convince me that rex is the scum partner, otherwise u r wasting ur breath.
or u can try and convince rex that the scum team is me/wylted, and if u go that route, which is probably ur best route if ur scum, i will probably be sold that u r scum in that scenario.
Do you even feel my poke that you were wrong about Pie suspecting me is even wrong? How is that unreasonable?
pie was tracked visiting u, so most of the assumption was based on that. i admittedly did not have a lot of evidence to back up that pie scum read u. i continue to see this whole thing as a nitpick tho, and irreleveant to the course of the game at its current stage.
The only reason I had to keep shoving it was that nobody would look at it. Its like it takes an act of congress to get this community to look back at an ISO. Coulda been a small quick point and turned into an entire thing but do you even think its an invalid point?
Do you even think my point on Wylted is invalid? It is weird to claim a role then not remember the role you claimed as town. And you are treating them as lock town even as they throw a fit demanding everyone act right now or else they will destroy the game.
whats wierder to me is claiming a pgo tho, especially since u think a tracker is super imbalanced. u cant argue it both ways tho and allow for an extra killing role to suddenly be balanced while calling out two investigations imbalanced. even if ur pgo is actually an activated ability, the mod is trusting someone immensely not to shorten his game by 1-2 day phases when all they have to do is activate it, and potentially cause multiple deaths. from a balance perspective that is the most imbalanced thing i could see in a 9 player game .
Im glad you openly acknowledge you are unwilling to shift a position. Saves time even if I think its unreasonable. But the same as I do in debates while I understand you are not willing to change your opinion I am open to changing mine. Can you explain to me why you are so committed to your town read of them? I very much would like to hear your thoughts on the subject to get a better understanding of both you and them.
because the ONLY way that wylted is scum is if he is pulling an elaborate bus with mago, and i dont buy that. look at this from my shoes. ur me, and u know i am town. i have voted mago and mago hasnt been hammered. the only way wylted could be scum in this scenario is if he was bussing. why does scum not just finish the bus? why milk this further? if they want to bus, they should bus. add onto that all of wylteds antics about mod killing himself if the dp is prolonged, u would really need to sell me this is all just theatre. idk i dont see it. from my pov mago is scum.
And I am not ignoring other slots. I just have not posted my thoughts on them yet and again- have an entire life and another 48 hours to work with. I budget my time in life. Not for the optimal thing for the obscure online video game I play but instead for my actual real life obligations. This game gets what it gets and I hold myself to the game timer. That is what it means to Adult.
im not judging u for ur activity, u r clearly active, more active than me either. just saying that u have spent the entire dp targeting only me and wylted which shows a clear bias and way u r leaning. which makes me think more and more that u r probably just the scum here and trying to spin this whole thing to rex and me and wylted vs everyone else. which is honestly probably ur smartest move if ur actually scum. i dont hate the strategy, but if ur going that route, u trying to convince me of anything is kind of off the table.
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 9:07 PM (post #309)
or u can try and convince rex that the scum team is me/wylted, and if u go that route, which is probably ur best route if ur scum, i will probably be sold that u r scum in that scenario.
that's what a smart scum player would do. try and get us to look are rex. he won't take your advice though. he has been ignoring making any reads on rex for a reason
tbh i think thats already his play. i think hes trying to sell us as the scum team, its why hes only been questioning you and me. hes trying to make it seem like hes open to all possibilities and milking this whole thing purely for rex's benefit.
my only doubt about rex is really how weird it is that he is trying to sell me that u and mago are bussing, out of all the hair brained theories in this game, i buy into that one least of all lol.
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 7:15 PM (post #277)
Why do you take their role claim for granted? It looks overcrowded for PR's with a flipped Doc+BD+Alignment Cop+RB before even considering the claims.
two investigations isnt absurd for games here, more than 2 i would prolly start raising my eyebrows. their is a lot of scum roles on the town side it seems as well. but anyways im not really taking his role for granted, its more his slot and the way things happened this dp hes pretty lock town for me.
Sure they could have made a 'different fake claim' but we could WIFOM that all day. Going direct 1v1 would be open confrontation and it does not seem like Wylted handles that well. Any thoughts on them forgetting their own role name and openly admitting they do not consider the other role they claimed to do the same thing they do? Seems like something that you would not forget. Would be a smudge below forgetting your alignment.
listen, u wont convince me that wylted is anything other than town. i dont think picking apart his mistakenly calling the role the wrong name is a good look either. u seem to be nit picking wierd things, just like u r nit picking me for incorrectly remembering by sussing u more than he did. u spend an unnecccesary amount of time picking at things like this, and really don't spend a lot of time looking into ppl like rex and mago, i think that is interesting. u r trying to turn this into a me and wylted vs everyone else scenario. thats the main reason i have doubts about u. admittedly rex doesnt look good either, but u convincing me rex is scum is ur only real play here, because i have thrown my lot in with wylted. i know i am town, and i voted with wylted so if mago is town he would have been quick hammered. there is no reason for that not to be the case. i am not buying into any elaborate bus theories between wylted and you or wylted and mago. the only option for scum pairing in my eyes is mago/you mago/rex. thats it. u would have a better use of time trying to convince me that rex is the scum partner, otherwise u r wasting ur breath.
or u can try and convince rex that the scum team is me/wylted, and if u go that route, which is probably ur best route if ur scum, i will probably be sold that u r scum in that scenario.
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 6:52 PM (post #271)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 7:45 PM (post #270)
any new developments or is Rex and Helz still wafflin
Took my mom to a steak house. Not a waffle house. I would never subject her to that : )
Rex has not returned yet. They said they had shit to do and would revisit things this evening. I actually have not dived back into what I was doing for this game. Been interacting while managing emails and phone calls for work before diving in. But you should shove Wylted to say what they got to say. Its really fucking weird for them to want to not voice their thoughts until twilight. There is no town reason to do that in Lylo.
ive thrown my lot in with Wylted so im not worried about him. only way he could be scum is if he’s scum with mago or u and pulling some elaborate bus for no reason when he could have just faked a result on someone for an ez win. atp im pretty confident Wylted is town, for me its just a matter of solving between u and Rex
any new developments or is Rex and Helz still wafflin
wylted reads more as town with the result because it seems like he disregarded the result at first and didn’t really make anything of it until he realized the implication of what it meant that pie visited someone who should not have been visited based on their role. argument about how PGO should work aside, it shows a natural realization process with the result not an oppertunity based one and it wasn’t his main reason for voting anyone. If it was it would be him insta lynching Helz not mago. to me this is what makes Wylted look pretty more likely town even from before I voted with him
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 12:25 PM (post #222)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 2:01 PM (post #211)
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that
i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday
Pretty sure I hopped on her wagon when there was only 1 other person, someone else put her at L -1, and then Wylted hammered.
Helz was first, mago second, you third, Wylted the hammer was fourth
Originally Posted by wylted on 11/10/2026 at 11:59 AM (post #209)
the argument for rex being scum here is that it's so obvious mago is scum and he is just sitting back hoping helz votes wrong. he is most likely town but I could see rex doing that
i will say to helz credit that it’s interesting how much more conservative that Rex is being here when he was all too willing to put wryly at l-1 yesterday
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 11:50 AM (post #206)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 1:14 PM (post #189)
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 11:11 AM (post #185)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 11:31 AM (post #152)
need anything from me? I kinda jus waiting on a hammer no rush but yeah my minds made up. also u not hammering basically confirms that Helz is the last scum so if mago scum and is lynched should be a win, unless I’m missing something. hmmm
What behaviorally makes you sure Wylted is town?
it’s not really the behavior, it’s that he put himself in a 1 v 1 and there wasn’t a quick hammer. so one of him and mago have to be scum and ive had a bad feeling about mago since early in regards to his activity. not a fan of his excuse for it either. basically if mago is scum Wylted is town by proxy
Wylted loves to use bussing plays as scum. What makes you think he and Mago aren't scum together and they set up a 1 v 1 to let whoever survives get massive town cred and coast to the endgame? If they killed WF and rolecopped Wryly, don't you think they would think it was worth it for Wylted to yolo quickhammer the doc yesterday and then they could just extend the game by one DP and bus tomorrow, but not have to worry about their kill failing? Especially if they wanted to kill Pie, who was a very likely protection target?
this doesn’t read like a bus and i don’t think anyone is even seriously considering that. if u want me to to admit it’s theoretically possible sure, but it’s unlikely from my pov. scum were in a very good position coming into this dp so that’s just a lot of risk for no reward.
he has u in his null reads the only scum reads he has as me and wryly, we all know wryly was town and I know im town, so one of three people in his null reads are the next likely candidates and explain why u were visited by him.
i dont think him defending u one time was enough to say he town read u. but I dont understand how that is tmi either, plus u keep arguing this as if it was the most salient point i made. u are hyper focusing on something i mentioned that i didnt put a ton of thought into and was barely worth mentioning at all, and focusing that 10xs over any other points ive made.
im not gonna argue with u just to argue, but if u think that weak point is enough to convince Rex u do u
also there’s over 200 posts and still 2 days left in the phase, can we stop over exaggerating the “no one is even trying” thing? that’s a lot of posts and discussion Mr helz. we are all doing our best to engage u here.
alright Im gonna stop back and forth with mago, kind of no point. i know he’s scum and he’s trying to spin me as scum, it’s just a “no u” contest at this point. Gemma getting hard enough to respond to multiple people as is. im over stimulated
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:21 AM (post #196)
Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 19:19 (post #193)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #184)
Makes you as culpable.
no it doesnt. I was in favour of pressuring wryly the intent wasnt to turbolynch. This argument can be used for literally anyone voting anyone ever. I didnt expect the day to end early and I most certainly didnt expect anyone to hammer before wryly even posted. Again, this argument makes sense only if you think both Wylted and I are scum and you obviously d
at the end of the day any town lynch should have the wagon scrutinized. at the end of the day u were on the lynch. if u think i am scum u have to sell that town fell hard on their own sword with only 1 scum max on the lynch. ur excuse could be valid if we choose to buy it, but by that logic there’s never value to looking into wagon analysis if we just naively buy everyone’s excuses for being on it.
not to mention you were on two mislynches not just wrylys
I did not vote Thoth, I was literally AFK D1. Maybe check your claims before you try to paint.
but again - the reason why you when bring tjis up is because you are scum. I do not think about how many mislynches I was on as Town, simply doesnt occur to me
more importantly, you did not vote at all, and that’s scummy because scum are afraid of votinf
i did not vote dp1 because there wasn’t another option it’s something that has been complained about by others many times. the only option was Thoth who I wasn’t feeling as scum.
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 11:21 AM (post #195)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 12:04 PM (post #179)
Originally Posted by Helz on 11/10/2026 at 10:57 AM (post #174)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 11:49 AM (post #170)
i get that you want me to engage with the pie tmi but i think your putting way too much weight on it. it doesn't change the bigger picture of why poe points to you and mago. rex's claim is stronger, mago fits the scum slot, and you had the chance to hammer mago but didnt.
i'm not saying you cant be town, but ur asking rex to ignore a pretty straightforward solve without really giving a reason to do so. i'm open to being wrong, but i need more than just another argument about how nobody is engaging with you.
So to be clear its less that I am putting a ton of weight on it and more that I keep bringing it up over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over-
Because nobody will fucking look at it and even consider it. Lol. Thats nuts. You guys can not all be scum. What the fuck.. How is it that I have made such a blatantly clear point and nobody even looks at it or talks about it? Why have we not looked at the mech breakdown of what roles fit? Why are we just going back and fourth as I am screaming at the town to just engage and do a tiny bit of sorting? I am uncomfortable with this gamestate. I do think Wylted is just lock scum and I am pretty lost as far as the other outside of that one indicator that you may be their partner. And nobody even wants to spend 3 minutes to look at it and acknowledge that its a point.
To be clear- Not a single person in this game has looked at Pie's ISO and said my point is reasonable. Or unreasonable. Or that I am flatly lying. Or anything. What the fuck? We are in Lylo. You can not all be scum. Why is nobody even bothering to look at these critical details?
if I have a specific point u want me to read and respond to in regards to pie, tag me specifically and ask me. u r kind of a long winded rant style poster so admittedly i dont really read all of ur posts or responses to everyone and sometimes just skim them, or try to go to the end to see the salient points. it would be kind of exhausting to read all of it and respond to everything in depth. pie wears me down by doing that all the time too and half the time i just don’t have the mental wherewithal to engage him because of it.
also I’m willing to discuss mech, there’s not like a ton i can say for it other than liking certain roles matching justifications but I’ll admit a couple of the roles in the graveyard wouldn’t have been my first guesses as matches to their respective characters
Well yes, I am pointing to Pies ISO. Its super super super fucking tiny. https://www.debatecraft.com/users/ILikePie5/mafia-comments
Right here. You can skim literally 13 small posts. They are really small. I think you can read them all in like 60 seconds. Maybe 100 seconds? I duno.
If you want me to X post his entire ISO into this thread I can because its so tiny.
yeah you can post it all day but what’s ur point here lol i think ur working urself up about something thats next to irrelevant to our current situation
if u think Wylted is scum u pretty much have to think i am scum with him, its the only way that a quick hammer hasn’t happened yet. there’s not really use if convincing me of that cuz i know im town so i dont know how to respond to that. ur only bet with me would be to convince me that Rex is scum because we can safely cross off a mag/Wylted scum team. if you aren’t trying to convince me of Rex i dont see the point to any of this back and forth, because it has to be you or Rex from where im sitting
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:10 AM (post #184)
Makes you as culpable.
no it doesnt. I was in favour of pressuring wryly the intent wasnt to turbolynch. This argument can be used for literally anyone voting anyone ever. I didnt expect the day to end early and I most certainly didnt expect anyone to hammer before wryly even posted. Again, this argument makes sense only if you think both Wylted and I are scum and you obviously d
at the end of the day any town lynch should have the wagon scrutinized. at the end of the day u were on the lynch. if u think i am scum u have to sell that town fell hard on their own sword with only 1 scum max on the lynch. ur excuse could be valid if we choose to buy it, but by that logic there’s never value to looking into wagon analysis if we just naively buy everyone’s excuses for being on it.
not to mention you were on two mislynches not just wrylys
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:13 AM (post #188)
Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 19:07 (post #181)
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:04 AM (post #178)
Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 18:59 (post #177)
i think we're overlooking how many things actually stack up against mago here.
first, his early activity was pretty suspicious. he basically admitted that he was trying to blend in, which is a weird explanation to give when his initial plan wasnt even to claim soldier. he only really started becoming active once he was under pressure, which feels more reactive than genuine solving.
second, he tries to distance himself from wylted's hammer as if he wasnt equally responsible for it. he was voting there too. you cant just shift the blame onto wylted when you were participating in the exact same decision.
third, look at how he reacts when i vote him. instead of really addressing the reasons i gave, he immediately goes to telling rex to vote wylted or me if he dies. pretty convenient positioning for someone who supposedly has nothing to worry about.
and mechanically, the poe makes the most sense with mago here. rex's claim is stronger, and the alternative worlds require a lot more assumptions to work. we're not just voting mago because we have a vague bad feeling. we're voting him because his behavior, his positioning, and the mechanical situation all point in the same direction.
i dont think we need absolute certainty to make this vote. i think we need to recognize which world requires the fewest excuses, and thats the one where mago is scum.
i am willing to drop the “Helz is automatically his scum partner” argument for now, as i will probably weigh everything from scratch tomorrow anyway. and i admit i am prolly giving Rex more town cred than deserved
How am I to blame for someone quickhammering when I was AT WORK. This argument makes no sense unless you think Wylted and I are both scum.
u aren’t solely to blame but my point is u being on the lynch makes u just as culpable. u can throw a stone at Wylted for this when u live in a glass house
Again, youre not even considering the possibility that Rex might ge scum just because of his role. What gives. Miller is a perfect fakeclaim for scum, and tying it in to some char is really fucking easy lol
i explained why i was leaning town on him, but like i said to helz maybe i am jumping to that too fast. it’s possible rex is scum. we can evaluate that tomorrow and ill look at it with fresh eyes
Also, theres a difference between absolute cettainty and considering all possibilities, which you clearly havent. Again, Rex is completely off your radar, this makes no sense for Town you.
not completely off, but his character makes a lot of sense with miller.
thats a pretty weak reason to be so sure of someone’s alignment at LyLo. pretty sure literally everyones character works as their actual role this game so tjis is a moot point
i did say I would look at his slot with fresh eyes tomorrow. the only one I feel pretty convinced is scum is you, because you haven’t been hammered yet and I’m town
Originally Posted by RexFavilla on 11/10/2026 at 11:11 AM (post #185)
Originally Posted by Banana on 11/10/2026 at 11:31 AM (post #152)
need anything from me? I kinda jus waiting on a hammer no rush but yeah my minds made up. also u not hammering basically confirms that Helz is the last scum so if mago scum and is lynched should be a win, unless I’m missing something. hmmm
What behaviorally makes you sure Wylted is town?
it’s not really the behavior, it’s that he put himself in a 1 v 1 and there wasn’t a quick hammer. so one of him and mago have to be scum and ive had a bad feeling about mago since early in regards to his activity. not a fan of his excuse for it either. basically if mago is scum Wylted is town by proxy
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:05 AM (post #180)
Also your 1st argument doesnt work either. How would me blending in work at alk if I claim my actual role? Pointless
u don’t need to be completely inactive for soldier to work. of if I were busy that’s one thing, I’d accept that over lurking but this just reads as an excuse that didn’t even need to be made. u don’t help ur wincon as town by not playing, being in every mislynch and just praying scum don’t kill u ever. it’s certainly a strategy just not a good one
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 10:53 AM (post #173)
Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 18:51 (post #171)
also for anyone worried about me being scum I would like to remind everyone that I have not been apart of any of the mislynches, so unless u think scum just was lucky town fell on their sword with only one scum max in each lynch u have to admit this is a compelling argument in my favor
Why do you even remember if you were a part of any mislynches or not?
because I argued avidly that thoth was a low hanging fruit lynch and the wryly one took me off guard completely. i never even realized she was close to being lynched
Originally Posted by Magoroth on 11/10/2026 at 11:04 AM (post #178)
Originally Posted by Banana on 10/11/2026 at 18:59 (post #177)
i think we're overlooking how many things actually stack up against mago here.
first, his early activity was pretty suspicious. he basically admitted that he was trying to blend in, which is a weird explanation to give when his initial plan wasnt even to claim soldier. he only really started becoming active once he was under pressure, which feels more reactive than genuine solving.
second, he tries to distance himself from wylted's hammer as if he wasnt equally responsible for it. he was voting there too. you cant just shift the blame onto wylted when you were participating in the exact same decision.
third, look at how he reacts when i vote him. instead of really addressing the reasons i gave, he immediately goes to telling rex to vote wylted or me if he dies. pretty convenient positioning for someone who supposedly has nothing to worry about.
and mechanically, the poe makes the most sense with mago here. rex's claim is stronger, and the alternative worlds require a lot more assumptions to work. we're not just voting mago because we have a vague bad feeling. we're voting him because his behavior, his positioning, and the mechanical situation all point in the same direction.
i dont think we need absolute certainty to make this vote. i think we need to recognize which world requires the fewest excuses, and thats the one where mago is scum.
i am willing to drop the “Helz is automatically his scum partner” argument for now, as i will probably weigh everything from scratch tomorrow anyway. and i admit i am prolly giving Rex more town cred than deserved
How am I to blame for someone quickhammering when I was AT WORK. This argument makes no sense unless you think Wylted and I are both scum.
u aren’t solely to blame but my point is u being on the lynch makes u just as culpable. u can throw a stone at Wylted for this when u live in a glass house
Again, youre not even considering the possibility that Rex might ge scum just because of his role. What gives. Miller is a perfect fakeclaim for scum, and tying it in to some char is really fucking easy lol
i explained why i was leaning town on him, but like i said to helz maybe i am jumping to that too fast. it’s possible rex is scum. we can evaluate that tomorrow and ill look at it with fresh eyes
Also, theres a difference between absolute cettainty and considering all possibilities, which you clearly havent. Again, Rex is completely off your radar, this makes no sense for Town you.
not completely off, but his character makes a lot of sense with miller.