That's an odd role to have on town. So you just straight veto favor allocations? I get why you didn't use it, just seems like this has negative utility for town.
no, rex said it was seperate from favor which means it has nothing to do with favor. vader has other actions he can use aparently, and i can stop those. and i agree that it has negative utility, so i probably wont end up using that one. also apparently vader didnt use any actions np1 so i couldnt have used it anyway
What do you mean by "Vader has seemed pretty reasonable?" He confirmed town.
i know, which is why i said it would be anti town to veto him even if it technically does confirm me
i c its my turn to full claim tho so im an odd night siren. this allows me to learn the emporers night actions and veto them. rex said this ability is seperate from the favor thing so that means he has other roles besides the favor giving. i can confirm this one by basicly roleblocking vader, so while i can do it, its probably anti town to do it and i dont see a reason why i would need to use this one. vader has seemed pretty reasonable so far.
my second role is even night benefactor, and i can give one favor to any person i want. at imperial noble i am an ascetic and am immune non lethal night actions.
so both of these are confirmable
well if either of those two are real its probably the doctor/bodyguard, the double chat roles is a lil suspicious. interesting decision not to cc wryly with that
i might not be around later, so i'll go ahead and add my vote now. seems like thoth is the lynch today
vtl thoth
Who we SHOULD be lynching? I don't have any strong choices, but gun to my head, Banana. I feel like she's contributed a lot of text with a relatively low contribution/number of words ratio. But I'd also say it makes sense for me to just vote awesome because that's much more likely to result in a lynch due to inactivity.
no offense obv but i feel like i am contributing more than u have, plus ive even claimed and showed willingness to full claim.
I appreciate the claim but unfortunately it doesn't move the needle for me on Banana, she's still null, considering scum were provided with fake claims and fake roles, although she has not divulged her roles yet.
At least she broke the pattern of everybody claiming their roles but not their characters.
if i am asked i am wiling to role claim also but yeah idk really what to do about my behavior because i am trying to be as genuine as possible as is, so idk really what to say on that part
What are your thoughts on recent game developments? Updated reads?
i dont wanna sound like im parroting a lot of the comments so far, but i understand why im in the poe, i just dont know what to really do about it, im am contributing as much as i am able to and try to post meaningful honest things when i post. my reads are mostly the same i would just say that maybe thoth has moved from a townread to a null read after this day phase. otherwise i agree with a lot of the poe.
i am consort rong, the legendary perfumed consort. han xiangjian banana. im noble consort n start out with 5 favor. i watched a couple of the videos about my character that rex sent me as well
i understand why I am in the POE.. if it helps ill character claim
Mikal was Empress Dowager, which if I’m not mistaken is the Emperor’s mother. I don’t think he can appoint a new mother for himself :)
ooh gotcha
now that I think about it, I was scum Tracker/Watcher in my last scum game
you were a vanilizer in maga mafia, were u scum in another one since then?
I don’t really remember her meta/playstyle from my one game with her, from early gamr at least, but I feel like she had a lot more game related thoughts and reads at least later on. It feels like she’s just here to post stuff that I usually post when I’m scum. Plus the Tracker claim, which I have a strong suspicion that the information isn’t a lie (maybe she’s not a Tracker though, but the information I am tempted to 100% believe is true to her knowledge regardless of her alignment, her play reminds me of my scum play in a game I literally just got out of where I claimed my actual investigative information for days on end).
i think thats a fair read, is scum tracker common tho? i don think i have seen her scum games either
also since mikal was the empress and died does that mean vader appoints a new empress today? doesnt empress get a double vote?
Remaining POE is Pie, banana, thoth, whiteflame, and awesome.
does it help your poe of me at all if i tell you have at least 2 different ways i can confirm myself? not at this exact second but going forward.
Come on man, we have two females in this game, and you are being more emotional than I've ever seen either of them act lol. Are you on your man period?
this post is a bit offensive btw but ill let it slide this once lol
I see, that makes sense. What do you think of Wryly?
i still think she is townie, like i said last phase her play seems to reflect her play in other games ive seen in maga and in lasso, she was town in both of those. she kind of has a light hearted posting style, and i think us females tend to be a bit more anxious as scum, she doesn't feel like that, it seems like she is just having fun
Any results, thoughts?
no results. thoughts are that i am surprised mikal was killed but glad we have an extra day phase ig.
awesome is a bit suspicios and i still think thoth an wryly are townie
im suspicious of big players like you pie wylted whiteflame mostly, I would be very surprised if there was not scum in you guys, but wylted is probably town at least
I haven't even caught up with all of last DP yet, let alone this one, but for now I'm just going to drop in and say this: I played through yesterday thinking that I could use my ability last night, even though I don't think it would have been of much use. I noticed tonight that I did not have enough favor to use it. Rex confirmed that it was a mistake to tell me I could use it.
ya i was surprised i couldnt use mine last night either i guess i didnt understand that at first
banana I thought was scum because she town read me when everyone else was scum reading me and was a little too accurate in her description, 1) and after I claimed Framer didn’t look at anything else and just voted me. my gut read is that this is a scum who TMI’d me as Town but decided to drop it as not to get scum read for defending the scummiest claim in the game
i dont claim to be a great player or anything but in my short time playing mafia i remember it being a big deal to lie as town. like if i did that i would have 100% been lynched, no questioned asked.
okay so mag claimed framer then lied? i kinda skimmed but if the dp is ending soon i probably wont have time to do a full catch up, got a busy day.
ill go ahead and add my vote so we don't end up running out of time and no lynching
vtl mago
okay heres my reads
thoth- slight town, his posts seem authentic, ive agreed with a few of his points, and i like his backtrack on mago who seems like an easy target for scum to pursue a dp1 mislynch, shows hes being objectve with his thoughts.
pie- no firm read, he is giving townie vibes from his posts so far but i know hes very experienced player and probably the best player here so we should be skeptical of him
whiteflame- slightly similar to pie, ive agreed with a lot of his thoughts and posts so i dont have any early warning signs from him but hes also a very good player so is very likely to fool us, no firm read here either.
wylted- mostly null, i do like the miller claim, but i do think if hes miller its a fake claim from the mod because like i said before, ive seen a miller in almost all the games, i dont remember all of them so there might have been a few with no miller, but claiming miller also is banking on the idea that there isn't a cop which is also risky. maybe a slight town on him for now, but ultimtly null.
shining- their play is similar to their play from other2 games i played with them, lots vague remarks about how players should approach game mechanics but never really goes in depth on players behaviors. just obtuse statements like "we should do this" or "we shouldn't follow this meta" stuff that really doesn't add to the developmnt of the game but makes it seem like they are contributing. its hard to scum read him for this because he seems to do it as town to, but i dont think his play really varies as scum either, so i am actually scum reading this even if it is "NAI" as they say
Lunatic- came in made one statement about game being complex and that he thinks wylted is town. not really sure how to read him yet but he definitely needs to contribute more. i do think he is one who would be more active as scum, but for now ill just give him a null
mikal- also null based on activity. similar read to lunatic tho, he was pretty active in the game i was scum with him on, that game show one.
awesome5000- came in and voted mago, who seems like an easy target. doesnt really expand on why he thinks magos posts are bad, at least thoth did. im kind of suspicious of him so ill put him in my scum reads.
magoroth- the mass claim thing is either a really dumb mafia play that he thinks will work and out some roles, or its just genuine and townie of him. he wasnt that eager to claim in the maga game tho and when he did he kind of had a bad claim, so im thinking this could suggest he is town even if i disagree with most everything he has said so far.
wryly- i have town vibes form her, i dont know what her scum game looks like tho so im just kind of judging on the other two games i played with her and so far she seems like she is playing familiarly so i htink its likely shes legit this time, but ill stay open minded with her.
so yeah my top scum reads if i had to say them right now would be awesome5000, shining, and maybe one of lunatic/mikal who we definitely need to hear more from.
Wylted is horrible at fake claiming. If there is no Miller, he’s either town or this was a fake claim given by REF.
if he is lying i would say it was a fake claim, because it seems like there is a miller in almost every single game ive played, so it seems very risky to claim that otherwise
if we mass claim, the ten towns are probably going to tell the truth.
Numerically, this is more of an eleven-player game than a twelve-player game, so there are probably eight or nine townies other than the Emperor. I'm seeing this as a townslip.
wait a sec how does he know there is ten towns?! why is that a town slip?
I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but I strongly, strongly believe we should mass claim our abilities immediately. We should find out all information about this setup as soon as possible. In a hidden setup scum can just claim whatever they want and it’s possible we will have “weird” night actions that make no sense and stump us. Please, for the benefit of my sanity, at least consider this.
as much as i disagree with u here, it makes me feel u r town. no offense but ur fake claim in maga mafia was pretty bad and both of you had the opptunity to ask questions for characters, so i figure if u were scum you wouldn't want to give extra information like that if u didnt have to
Compared to what? "Let's out the Empress"? Or "Let's not flavor claim because it would make scum feel bad"? Or "let's mass claim even though scum were provided with full fake claims"? Or "let me just out myself as a Watcher"? Idk, maybe there's an argument to be made that terrible ideas are better than no ideas, if that's what you're going for.
^^^^ 100%
Let me put that differently. Massclaiming here might be in town's favor, or it might be in scum's favor. I don't know. I have no past games to reference. Since we are all at least partially newbies here, we should play it safe. Playing it safe means no massclaims.
i think the problem is scum will just lie, and depending on how good of fake claims they got, we really dont learn anything from this and just give scum a lot of info, i don't really like this idea much. and townies can be mislynched for having "scummy" seeming roles. also we are basically telling mafia what roles arent in the game by doing this making it ez for them to fake claim. not sure where the logic is in mass claiming at all
I still think we should mass claim what abilities we have access to. If scum tells the truth, and they don’t use their fake claim, they will be forced to use their abilities either in a pro-Town way, rendering them kinda useless to them, or take a risk and use their abilities anyway in spite of lying about it.
I will go first. One of my abilities is Watcher.
telling scum what abiltiies we have seems like a terrible idea, what r u smokin
Post #104: Voting Wryly for having "trouble producing thoughts". I could be missing something here, but Wryly hasn't seemed incoherent or unthinking this game. Maybe she's being inclined to post fluff, but I can hardly blame her since there's not that much information to work with. I don't think that Magoroth has contributed much more than Wryly has.
yeah i kind of thought that was a wierd take as well
I think the best method of attack is to not over reveal anything. So I don’t think I’m going to be as quick to jump to claims and counter because that could ultimately lead to some more manipulation. Probably going to make some commentary but not too much but I am keeping up and reading analysis
yeah probly best to keep your town and scum reads close to ur chest since it will help add confusion to the mafia and they wont know or predict who you are giving favor 2
