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I don’t want to sound like a broken record, but I strongly, strongly believe we should mass claim our abilities immediately. We should find out all information about this setup as soon as possible. In a hidden setup scum can just claim whatever they want and it’s possible we will have “weird” night actions that make no sense and stump us. Please, for the benefit of my sanity, at least consider this.

as much as i disagree with u here, it makes me feel u r town. no offense but ur fake claim in maga mafia was pretty bad and both of you had the opptunity to ask questions for characters, so i figure if u were scum you wouldn't want to give extra information like that if u didnt have to

Compared to what? "Let's out the Empress"? Or "Let's not flavor claim because it would make scum feel bad"? Or "let's mass claim even though scum were provided with full fake claims"? Or "let me just out myself as a Watcher"? Idk, maybe there's an argument to be made that terrible ideas are better than no ideas, if that's what you're going for.

^^^^ 100%

Let me put that differently. Massclaiming here might be in town's favor, or it might be in scum's favor. I don't know. I have no past games to reference. Since we are all at least partially newbies here, we should play it safe. Playing it safe means no massclaims.

i think the problem is scum will just lie, and depending on how good of fake claims they got, we really dont learn anything from this and just give scum a lot of info, i don't really like this idea much. and townies can be mislynched for having "scummy" seeming roles. also we are basically telling mafia what roles arent in the game by doing this making it ez for them to fake claim. not sure where the logic is in mass claiming at all

I still think we should mass claim what abilities we have access to. If scum tells the truth, and they don’t use their fake claim, they will be forced to use their abilities either in a pro-Town way, rendering them kinda useless to them, or take a risk and use their abilities anyway in spite of lying about it.

I will go first. One of my abilities is Watcher.

telling scum what abiltiies we have seems like a terrible idea, what r u smokin

Post #104: Voting Wryly for having "trouble producing thoughts". I could be missing something here, but Wryly hasn't seemed incoherent or unthinking this game. Maybe she's being inclined to post fluff, but I can hardly blame her since there's not that much information to work with. I don't think that Magoroth has contributed much more than Wryly has.

yeah i kind of thought that was a wierd take as well

I think the best method of attack is to not over reveal anything. So I don’t think I’m going to be as quick to jump to claims and counter because that could ultimately lead to some more manipulation. Probably going to make some commentary but not too much but I am keeping up and reading analysis

yeah probly best to keep your town and scum reads close to ur chest since it will help add confusion to the mafia and they wont know or predict who you are giving favor 2

I don’t really want to soft-claim flavour just because it would feel like shit if I was Scum and got caught due to flavour. So I’d appreciate flavour not being a part of the discussion.

is soft claiming even necessary with two fake claims on the board?

I do wish that more game hosts would add elements that spark discussion on day 1 other than soft-claims and other kinds of flavor analysis.

this seems like an issue with the players and the meta, not the host. i think people prefer less host engangement

Given that Rex said the theme split is not simple, I'm curious why scum got two full-fake claims. That makes me think there's a reason why they would be reluctant to claim their characters.

i dont see why any1 would be reluctant to claim with so many fake claims provided

Indeed I have been widely described as shy, modest, chaste, demure, graceful, feminine, with dainty movements and tiny feet. My calligraphy flows like the wind bearing the lotus blossoms through the bamboo. The Emperor should well take note of this.

ur posts are fun lol

Wylted is probably town. Miller is a risky claim but the way he claimed it and his realization about the complex mechanization of his role makes it seem more legit to me. I think we can move past him.

i lean town on him too but i wouldnt say he is confirmed or anything.

First initial read is that Wryly seems kinda shy. It could be her personality, it could also be due to her alignment.

VTL Wryly

since when is a personality trait aligmnt indicitve? also i dont think she is shy but thats my perception ig

We're talking about it because the idea of the theme is that as you advance in favor, you gain advantages (as it is in any court). The idea that you advance in favor but gain a disadvantage is odd.

thats fitting for a miller actually, arent they supposed to be designed as anti town roles?

Based on my role PM and the clips I've seen of this harem drama, it seems to me like these girls do not give the feel-good vibes I look for when fantasizing about being the protagonist of a harem anime.

O.o eww....

Well... here’s a thought. I assume Empress is Town. I also assume scum know which abilities are in the game, so it’s not like they would have to make up some night actions that aren’t possible, so there’s no value to the Empress hiding these night actions.

im not entirely sure the empress is town, from my video in my pm it seemed like the empress was kind of rude to my character who seems to be clearly good. thats why i was asking him about his win condition

Just like a good and righteous Emperor, I will be taking bribes for favor. Venmo 100 dollars will get you unlimited favor from me. I just payed for a vacation so any donations welcome

On a serious note. This will be interesting

so can u explain what you are? like is your goal to help town or is it neutral? are u ambivolent

Its highly likely there is 3 mafioso and maybe a TP.

what makes u think that

Any behavioral thoughts so far?

give me a lil bit to catch up and ill let u know

Hello. this game is kind of confusing to me but ill do my best

im so sorry guys... i really misplayed that one. magic played very well

vtl wryly, here is hoping

so looking at theme, both keeley (whiteflames character) and flo or sassy (magics character) are mentioned in wylteds role pm. this indicates to me that they are bigger characters and more likely to be in the game. ngl tho sam doesnt seem super minor either, but maybe a bit more minor then those two, and doesnt seemed to be mentioned in any of the flips yet. so im leaning its more likely something mafia thought was safe to claim. there is also an option that mafia took a big risk and claimed something strong like that, so its not like the best argument against wryly i acknowledge.

if were looking at behavior, i dont strictly have a problem with wryly and i actually kind of buy the wifom in argument in post 51 that if she is mafia that wouldnt be the best strategy, but then again we just had a game where mafia tried claiming cop so nothing is impossible lol.

magic seems towniest to me behaviorally, ive liked his thoughts and reads, and he seems to be really enthusiastically scum hunting which seems hard for to fake as mafia, i jus dont really see it.

i dont really have a problem with whiteflame behaviorally either, but if i had to guess i would think the last scum is between whiteflame and wryly, and im kind of leaning wryly here.

Did you mistype something? I was a part of the Shining lynch from the start. Not taking sole credit here, but I could’ve gone for Wylted DP1 and I went for Shining instead, which proved to be correct.

i kno but im not really scum reading u anyway, just pointing out it could have been a bus is all but it also could be real too

ok so we got a conundrum. basically 3 vanillas, 4 if you count me since im basicly vanila now 2. and an activist. town seems a bit powerless to me. obv one of the vanillas at least has to be telling the truth, but isnt it kind of odd 2 see that many of them? i think i was in one where there was two, including me once. dont remember the name of that game tho.

as for magic, he does seem town on his behavior i am hesitant to town read him for the shining lynch because he could have bussed, but idk it could have been real too.also from looking at his character wiki it seems like a big character, plus it is kind of mentioned in wylteds pm, so it is probably a real claim since we know maf werent given fakes.

and whiteflame, idk his character seems pretty legit too and like a major character in the series and is featured in all the seasons, but i dont have much in the way of behavior to town read him.

ngl wryly is kind of the standout here bcuz sam seems more minor than the other two, plus her role seems like its more of a scummy type role. why would a townie need take another persons vote?

also i can get behind a no lynch as long as there isnt any way for mafia to get a second kill, just to help narrow things down for one more dp

ill hammer since im going to bed soon vtl wylted

I have not since no one popcorned it to me. that said i'd be happy to claim my character

go ahed

Tired. Bed. Nightmares. Dreamed strangers kept breaking into my house to take my socks off in the dark and hold my feet.

lol nonono not the feet

Wait did Kohai character claim

i dont think he did just someting about knowin theres a miller

its funny cuz i know if i were to pull this i would be lynched immediately

ill unvote but u still need to claim