Double_R

Half the charges they threw at trump were trumped up charges.

That is just not true. The DOJ charged him in two cases, the Maralago documents case and the Jan 6th case. In both cases Trump's actions were flagrantly illegal and/or egregious, and both very serious. It would have been a dereliction of duty to not bring those charges.

And yet still, in both cases the DOJ did everything they could to avoid it until it became untenable. In the Jan 6th case Merrick Garland sat on it for two years until the Jan 6th committee laid out the case publicly forcing his hand, the documents case they did everything they could to quietly get them back until Trump’s refusal to do so effectively became a middle finger.

Anyone claiming the DOJ was weaponized against him has no idea what they’re talking about.

All the other cases were brought by local and state prosecutors in NY.

NY =/= DOJ.

I dont know if comey was involved in the witch hunt

He wasn’t. If you’re referring to “Russiagate” (aka the Mueller Report), it was Trump’s firing of Comey that created the firestorm which is what lead the DOJ appointing Bob Mueller in the first place.

If you’re referring to what the DOJ was investigating before that, that’s probably the dumbest conspiracy theory ever. The idea is that the FBI opened the investigation into Trump to try and hurt him politically. Meanwhile, they were also investigating Hillary Clinton’s email server which was shared publicly and’s reopened 11 days before the election all while maintaining with no leaks, that Trump was also being investigated. The FBI’s disclosure of one investigation and not the other quite possibly and I would argue probably is the reason Trump became president. Dumbest. Conspiracy. Ever.

For example. Its a campaign finance violation to not disclose financial contributions to one's campaign, and the idiotic libs actually said that getting dirt on joe Biden from Ukraine counted as a "financial contribution".

Yes, many did say it, because in all likelihood that is probably true. Campaign finance laws are ambiguous in many cases, it’s very difficult to distinguish between what is a “thing of value” vs what is not. But what those “libs” never tried to do was hold Trump accountable legally for it. They tried to hold him politically accountable, which is exactly what they should have done.

So the President publicly calls for the prosecution of James Comey. The US attorney he hired refuses on the basis that there's no evidence of a crime. Trump fires that federal prosecutor and replaces them with an insurance lawyer who's never prosecuted anyone before and who also happens to be one of Trump's personal attorneys. Trump then publicly and explicitly tells his attorney general to get this done. Then Comey is indicted.

Is there anyone left out there still pretending that this is a DOJ guided by fairly upholding the rule of law?

So if I can't prove to you that the UN escalator has ever broken down while a world leader was on it... Must be sabotage against Trump.

Great argument there. I'll just let you marinate in that one.

I keep telling you I am not MAGA

You can say that all day, yet every word I've ever read from you says otherwise.

This BTW is yet another example of what we're talking about when we say MAGA is a cult. If Trump hadn't said anything no one would have claimed this was some sort of conspiracy against him. But he said it, so now we have to pretend not only that this is normal, but that it's reasonable. Just another day in Trump 2.0

Correct, now you are starting to piece it together.

Oh boy, I can't wait to be blown away.

So many eyes watching that it is practically impossible to make mistakes. It would have to be intentional especially at this level.

Guess I'll keep waiting.

Mechanical malfunctions are not mistakes.

I mean literally nobody else has those issues there, nor have ever had those issues there especially in the same night.

https://www.trtworld.com/article/e9155e61255b

Prove it. Show a video of one other world leader attending this event ever and having this happen.

Prove that escalators break down? Is there something wrong with you? Have you never stepped outside before?

The problem with trying to search for another example is that if it happened to anyone else no one would care so it wouldn't even be reported because there has never before been a world leader so childish and so narcissistic as Trump to actually claim conspiracy over something so stupid and benign.

But if you want a comparable example here you go.

https://www.businessinsider.com/saudi-king-stuck-when-his-golden-escalator-breaks-down-in-russia-2017-10?utm_source=chatgpt.com

The heart of the person before you is a mirror

In a spouse, maybe. Arguing with right wingers on the internet? No. Sorry.

I noticed that unoriginal term repeated alot recently..."wannabee"...

Isn't that just another way of saying the American president isn't yet all those things Americans claimed he was for 9 years?

Ugh. No.

The fact that Trump hasn't yet accomplished the total destruction of our constitutional government doesn't mean he isn't trying.

The president is supposed to be our constitutions prime protector, that's why his flagrant disregard for it is so serious. Putting Trump in the oval office is like hiring a bank robber to be your jewelry store head of security.

Kind of like changing the wording from global warming to climate change.

The term was changed to "climate change" because idiots would look outside and claim that snow disproved global warming.

Global warming was given it's name because that's what's actually happening in totality. But the effects are far more complicated. The entire earth doesn't experience the same proportional result, some places will experience intense heat, others will experience extreme cold, others drought, etc. It will be felt differently everywhere, that's why climate change is a better name for it.

why do you think it requires a massive conspiracy?

Because it involves the president of the United States and takes place in a building where world leaders gather. The amount of eyes on everything in places like this are not comparable to the security at your local Walmart. And as soon as people start collaborating, the chances of others finding out grows exponentially.

This is basic human nature, which conspiracy theories cut directly against.

Also, yes this would be a serious risk. Anyone who was in a position to oversee the equipment being used by world leaders would be considered highly entrusted. Engaging in purposeful sabotage would not only easily result in their firing bit also their ostracization from their industry. That's a remarkably high price to pay for such a stupid and insignificant act.

Occam's razor says that explanation weighs a ton.

Sure not very often it's never happened to me and I have been on escalators nearly every day of my life.

Congratulations to you.

Everyone had probably on more than one occasion walked up a still escalator. I used to work in a job where our customers had to ride one up to the second floor. For us, following escalator protocols was a normal workday occurrence. This isn't the one in a million event you are imagining it to be.

So you wanted Trump to cowtow to Russia and China. Disgusting take for an American bordering on treason.

Made up takes usually are disgusting, that's the point of making them up. If you want to challenge yourself, perhaps you could try reading what I actually wrote and respond to it.

We're talking of health, not of going to work.

That has nothing to do with it, the logic is the same.

You say there's a risk to taking Tylenol, therefore don't take Tylenol.

I say there's a risk to getting in a car, therefore don't get in a car.

Same exact thing.

That certainly applies for your ICE workers who were just assassinated by yet another left-wing terrorist.

Change of subject. Yeah, that's what happens when you have no coherent position to maintain.

"Yet another" left wing terrorist. Wow, that's what... Two this year? The left is really stacked.

And let's keep pretending the right doesn't have any. In fact, I spoke too late, the Trump admin already got to that - that's why a few days ago they took down their own study showing that about 75% of political violence in this country is committed by right wingers.

Ah, it's fun when you get to pick and choose your own reality isn't it?

In the actual science world, there are competing studies, and constant testing. A unified voice only happens when K street is driving a single voice with zero tolerance for any other competing ideas or competing studies.

Or perhaps a unified voice comes from scientists being able to read the data, much the same as how everyone on this site can come to the same conclusion about what you get when you add 2+2.

I know, crazy idea.

It's odd that you think that these one in a million chance happenings are coincidence though. It's more of a conspiracy to deny Occam's Razor here.

Escalators and elevators not working happens. It's not coincidence when it happens to Trump anymore than it is when it happens to anyone else.

This is typical conspiracy theorist backwards logic you guys are famous for. Google sharpshooter fallacy.

You talk about Occam's razor, but don't seem to understand how to apply it. You don't just measure the assumptions of the "accepted version" of events and claim it's heavy therefore conspiracy. You have to weigh it against the alternative; that the escalator engineers and the teleprompter engineers along with whoever was overseeing their work engaged in a conspiracy risking their jobs to... make Donald Trump look silly?

He does that everytime he opens his mouth and no one gives a shit. What a stupid conspiracy. I'll take the "accepted version".

What exactly did you expect Trump to say at the UN to Russia and China?

Expect? I have no expectations of him, he's an embarrassing man-child and totally ignorant buffoon.

What standards do I hold him to? That of any other president, the same as you almost certainly would apply if we were talking about anyone else except Trump. We could start with things like stick to generally true statements, talk about world affairs and not your personal experience on the escalator, don't get on the stage and accuse the UN of engaging in a conspiracy against you when you have no evidence... Basically, the same thing I say to my misbehaving 13 year old niece at a restaurant - "you're not a child anymore, act like an adult".

After we can get passed things like that, then we can talk about world affairs. Trump is not grown enough yet to have that conversation.

It's better to avoid any risk instead of making this a political quarrel.

Under this logic, you're better off staying home than going to work, cause there's a risk you'll die in a car accident.

I somehow suspect you'll still go to work. Ask yourself why.

It does

Perhaps in the non-logic world you believe in.

Apparently the UN thought they could fuck with him by intentionally cutting the power to the escalator when he was on it and intentionally breaking the teleprompter to throw him off his game.

And 9/11 was an inside job. And we never landed on the moon.

I am going to say you should probably stfu about this if you ever denied that Biden was obviously suffering from dimentia

The difference between Biden and Trump is that when Biden would get confused he would know it. You could see the expression on his face as his words were coming out, practically hear him saying to himself "something about that wasn't right". Trump is just like this all the time. He's not confused, he really does believe the stupid things he says and he is too stupid to even know how stupid the things he says are.

Everyone can look at Biden and see what he was going through in their own grandparents or through elderly people they have watched decline. Trump is that one guy in the family no one wants to get stuck sitting next to cause they'll get stuck hearing about the lizard people planning to replace the illuminati leadership. It's not a contest which one is worse.

It's about an hour long, I challenge any Trump supporter to watch it and then try to tell us that man is fit to be President.

Doesn't matter what the video shows. The cognitive dissonance of electing a fundamentally unserious person into the most serious job on earth is already baked in and ingrained thru constant reaffirmation from MAGA. From that point, nothing matters.

They've already convinced themselves that there's a hidden benevolent genius beneath that exterior of buffoonish clownish ignorance, vindictiveness, and childishness, so calling out the exterior in their minds only makes you a deranged lunatic who can't figure out how to read between the lines to see what's really there.

Not knocking you for trying, I've done so here as well, but we all know what to expect.

Do you really have nothing better to do than playing the part of a stupid person on the internet?

If there is the suspicion that this medication is dangerous, then why keep it in the market?

Because then there would be no drug market.

Suspicion is irrelevant. Reasonable suspicion backed by data and evidence is what matters.

All of your regulatory agencies are owned by corporations.

Regulatory agencies are by definition part of our Democratic government, which means they are by definition owned by the people.

Come up with something better.

Its not the propaganda to say leftists hate Capitalism.

There are leftists out there who hate capitalism. That doesn't = leftists hate capitalism. If it did, I could very easily argue that right wingers are cross burning Ku Klux clan supporting white supremacists, and there's nothing you could do to counter that.

No one interested in serious conversation would accept such a ridiculous framing. We don't judge movements by their worst examples on social media. Do better.

The fact that the FDA is now pushing this nonsense despite the entire medical community saying this is dangerous is exactly my point.

Say whatever you want about Kamala, at least she would have left our agencies in the hands of people who actually knew what they were doing as opposed to Trump who nominates quacks with no experience all because they will be loyal to him personally while Trump destroys our entire system of government.

The fact that the FDA is now pushing this nonsense despite the entire medical community saying this is dangerous is exactly my point.

Say whatever you want about Kamala, at least she would have left our agencies in the hands of people who actually knew what they were doing as opposed to Trump who nominates quacks with no experience all because they will be loyal to him personally while Trump destroys our entire system of government.

Or they want a consistently applied dictionary definition.

Exactly. Let me translate, or rather clarify: you all want a simple definition to address a complex problem.

This is what happens when you are incapable or unwilling to deal with nuance. You insist on overly simplistic interpretations that do not reflect reality, and with each passing example become further and further disconnected.

I think democracy is a show and elections are predetermined by the 6 people that run the media (I’m not trying to make this about the Jews). They let people vote and they decide the results in an apartment building in Manhattan. What incentive do elections have to be accurate? If they lie, then who catches them?

This is straight up delusional.

"The media" expresses many different viewpoints, and in today's environment of social media and podcasts no one can possibly control all of the messaging.

Beyond that... An apartment building in Manhatten? WTF are you talking about?

Elections are decentralized, you can rig them out of grandma's kitchen.

Ever wonder how the poorest parts of the country are the most conservative?

Because in many of these places politics isn't about who has better ideas for improving people's lives, it's about a sense of belonging and personal identity.

Right wing politicians understand this, which is why they preach the gospel while filming campaign ads of themselves shooting at cans of bud light. The game is to win you over with bullshit so they can go to Congress and fix the laws to give themselves bigger tax breaks.

Plenty of people believe that.

You clearly do not know what this conversation is about.

How can you tell what is true/false?

Take some time studying epistemology, you'd benefit from it.

Once I learned how you defined fascism (having any right wing opinion)

Yeah this is the problem when you don't bother to read and aren't interested in any nuanced conversation, you fill the many many gaps of your own understanding with fanciful garbage dragging you further and further away from reality.

I've defined fascism explicitly here and back on DART. You are just making shit up because you can't handle opposing viewpoints.

I’ve heard from transgender activists that the right wants to murder them

Let me guess, you saw this on tic tok?

This is your brain on propaganda. Enjoy the fantasy.

Since you continue to claim the administration is responsible for Kimmel's suspension, which is now lifted, are you goings to thank the administration for his return tonight and apologize for blaming the admin?

So you clearly didn't read what I wrote, or at the very least failed to absorb it.

My post began by laying out why it is absurd to dismiss the idea that ABC made the decision to suspend Kimmel directly because of the government's strong-arming of them, then moved into the greater point about why that didn't matter and why this is an egregious abuse of power either way. Naturally, you have nothing to say about any of that.

Then you move on to this level of desperation.

Adopting your framing; if someone stole $20 out of your wallet, then gave it back after they got caught, No, you don't thank them.