1) Kohai/WF
2) Kohai/Vader
3) Kohai/Luna
4) WF/Vader
5) WF/Luna
6) Luna/Vader
Im going take Vader out since only way he’s scum is if Bullish gave it as fake claim AND specifically wrote about it in my PM.
That leaves:
1) Kohai/WF
2) Kohai/Luna
3) WF/Luna
Luna and I have a pseudo-CC, especially with Banana’s flipped role. Luna investigated WF and Kohai innocent, which is interesting cause even he doesn’t believe they’re both necessarily innocent. I’m going to have to iso him. Mag1c also heavily sussed him:
WF has a very interesting role. A key note is that he’s missing a justification. I’m curious how that role fits his character.
Kohai, has 2 green checks on him from Luna/WF. He’s also highly likely to be scum based on my dreamer results. It’s possible that he’s the GF or Lawyer with that. Treestump sounds like it’s up Luna/WF’s ally. The delay in claiming is also interesting.
Going to do some wagonomics now
There has to be a solve here one sec
Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/26/2026 at 6:11 PM (post #12)
Well I was hoping for some solid results last night, but nothing. I am Nuclear War, MAD (Mutually Assured Destruction). I am the cop. Justification is all about deterrence cold war era doctrine that says if 1 party uses nukes, the other will retaliate in kind and both parties will be destroyed. Maintaining nuclear deterrence depended on intelligence, early warning systems, and the ability to identify an enemy's actions before responses were made which is why I am cop. Thought the justification was kind of a stretch at first until I seen other people's justifications lol.
Night One I investigated Whiteflame, Night Two I investigated Kohai.
Both are innocent.
I am going to assume mafia have some sort of counter to Cop, so take these with a grain of salt.
Why did you choose WF and Kohai each night
Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/26/2026 at 5:22 PM (post #6)
Alright, cards on the table:
My role is called a Contact Counter. The way it works is that I target someone, and I get a count for the number of people who are in their contact chain. My visit counts towards that chain. So, for example, if I used it on myself and no one targeted me, it's a chain of 1. If I used it on someone else who didn't visit anyone, it's a chain of 2. If my target does visit someone, it's a chain of 3. I got a whole list of possible results based on various interactions after asking several questions of Bullish, so if people want to know them, I can go through it.
The long and short of it: I used my night actions on Kohai NP1 and Vader NP2. I chose two players who claimed roles that did not visit, since picking a target who did visit someone else would just confirm that they had visited someone, not who they visited or why. Both Kohai and Vader had chains of two, meaning that, absent any fuckery, I confirmed that Kohai did not visit anyone NP1 and Vader did not visit anyone NP2.
Very interesting claim. I would like to know what you asked Bullish and what his answer was
From my POV, it’s not Vader because Bullish specifically mentioned Miller in my PM. And with my Dream, it means that it’s EXACTLY Luna/WF or Luna/WF + Kohai, but the odds of Kohai being scum are the highest statistically
Character: AI Takeover
Role: Dreamer
Justification: Bullish says he loves his AI overlords. AI is super smart and basically knows everything but still can be very wrong. This Dreamer.
Assuming I’m not visited, I will receive a list of 3 names, at least one of which is scum. Bullish mentioned that my ability is affected by modifiers such as Miller and Godfather.
I asked him how the modifier would even work. He said this (paraphrased): he will take one player who inherently investigates guilty then he will randomly take 2 other names from remaining pool.
Thats how I knew I was visited NP1. I received a list of 3 names last night: Luna, Vader, Whiteflame.
Alright I’m here
Lots of votes to analyze in case I’m dead. Make sure to evaluate yesterdays counter wagon too
Unoffical VC
Lunatic - Vader, Mag1c
Thoth - Pie, Lunatic, WF, Kohai
Vader - Thoth
Unoffical VC
Lunatic - Vader, Mag1c
Thoth - Pie, Lunatic, WF
Vader - Thoth, Kohai
Unoffical VC
Lunatic - Vader
Thoth - Pie, Lunatic
Vader - Thoth, Kohai
CFDs sure do wonders
VTL Thoth
Whats the VC
^^^
My role implies a Miller exists. It’s not traditionally how the role works, but Bullish made a point to mention it. I’ll hammer him to get a lynch off for information, but know that I townread him
Why do you townread Thoth again?
Still waiting on Thoth explaining why he voted me in DP1
Originally Posted by Thoth on 9/25/2026 at 9:13 PM (post #290)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/25/2026 at 8:02 PM (post #265)
The problem is also that basically anything can be used to justify a Vanilla. Why specially two Sun related apocalypse.
You can find relationships and connections between anything. These apocalypses are both solar, but otherwise are extremely different. Vader’s is barely apocalyptic compared to most claims.
The problem is ANYTHING can be used to justify Vanilla. Why use the Sun when you can find a million other things.
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/25/2026 at 9:11 PM (post #286)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/25/2026 at 9:54 PM (post #282)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/25/2026 at 9:54 PM (post #281)
Got through Kohai’s ISO. The DP2 feels like towny confusion. The DP1, idk. One thing I did like was him calling the game retarded while Vader’s about to go down… you’d think mafia would be happier, and imo, more likely to feign happiness at catching Vader. It’s all frustration with being pressured early DP1 for a claim.
Only a slight townread atm
hmmmm… I don’t like the hesitancy to claim with a tree stump. Yet if you have that hesitancy, you’d want to claim something strong as scum, right?
Its easier to delay claiming especially if his scum partner used whatever fake claim they had
He did soft tree stump fairly early in the game. I’m leaning toward him just believing his role pm is bad and tree stump is worth delaying for Kohai reasons, whatever those are. Feels too scummy to be scum.
How did he soft claim tree stump early?
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/25/2026 at 8:52 PM (post #279)
Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/25/2026 at 9:44 PM (post #275)
Just got through Whiteflame’s ISO. He’s hard to read.
I felt the focus on softing at the start of the game was excessive. Literally everything else doesn’t ping me one way or another… it’s just there.
Whiteflame knowing about his own claim could be a tell. But who knows.
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Originally Posted by Thoth on 9/25/2026 at 9:11 PM (post #287)
Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/25/2026 at 7:59 PM (post #264)
So what do you think he was breadcrumbing and why?
I am not convinced he was breadcrumbing anything as opposed to making it up later
So you think he was putting like 5 things out there and then just picking one thing?
Yall home?