Kohai

Unvote

the last thing we need this day phase is another unintentional hammer.

iLikePie5 - Human 

Whiteflame - Not Xenomorph

Mikal - Not human, a full species 

RexFavilla - no claim 

Vader - no claim 

David (Kohai) - The xenomorph, vengeful 

Wryly (Castin) - Not Xenomorph

This is gonna be the day phase where everyone is gonna need to full claim.

VTL Pie

He is literally the odd ball out with claims. He is the only other human in the game

Could easily be feigned but I tend to agree. It seemed genuine. All that does is completely negate any role analysis. A cop could be scum now, a confirmable town role could be scum etc. Luna loves behavior games, so that seems the likely intention. 

Yeah. That really does suck. I basically have to start all over again with my reads.

All I can say is mafia made a mistake by not recruiting me because my vengeful status does not deactivate in MyLo/LyLo.

TBH hard town read on castin for that

Lol the NK was interfered with. We owe some townie a thank you

This is not the case. Read the flip carefully. Casey killed the selves to convert a town to mafia

well I am totally lost

Please do not discuss ongoing games. To prevent any possible issues I'm going to lock this thread until the current game ends. We will have this discussion once the game ends. I just don't want to get anyone modkilled or have this thread influence the ongoing game.

We really need to start doing verbal affirmations instead of actual votes to prevent this type of BS

That actually is not a bad idea. Perhaps we also shouldn't be so focused on flavor. We're one of the few sites where flavor claiming occurs. I almost never see mass flavor claiming. But that's a separate issue completely.

I get it to some degree, but it’s not so valuable of a role that it was worth risking the lynch tbh. I can also see value in claiming it to get out ahead of that concocted BS, though it’s always going to be difficult to know (as long as there’s at least a couple of protective roles) what prevented someone from dying during the night.

Agreed. Especially because it's a protective role they'd almost certainly end up as the NK anyway, especially if they were able to clear themselves as town.

Hadn't considered that. Once majority is reached, it's locked in?

Typically, yes. However, we will have to wait for a final answer from Lunatic.

Eh if no one's gonna unvote I guess we'll find out after Luna wakes up

I doubt we can unvote because there was already a hammer, but it's worth a try.

Unvote

Hey, now that’s a believable justification. I think Thoth is probably telling the truth, but his attempts to keep from providing his claim by hinting at it ended up only being confusing.

Exactly.

Your victim is dead basically the minute a Facehugger attaches to you. But you don’t die immediately because the xenomorph grows inside of you. Only after the chest buster comes out that, that you die. That explains the the apportioner

This. 100% this. Unfortunately. this entire sh*t show of a dayphase due to misreading of role PMs and flavor. To be clear, I think I did play correctly by counterclaiming but this could be discussed more in the next dayphase.

I'm allowed to reveal? Yeah, okay then. I'm the Apportioner. Justification is that I can impregnate someone with an embryo, and an (adult?) Xenomorph will leave them alone until the "pregnancy" ends.

How tf does this work against xenomorphs?

Also I'll post a legacy in the event Thoth is town and I get nightkilled. If I get night killed and Thoth is town then Pie is on my chopping block next day phase.

Yep, kinda sucks, but it is what it is. Tomorrow everyone is probably going to have to full claim because Luna said the game was very very swingy

Agreed, at the very least we need to claim xenomorph or not xenomorph. Perhaps we can still do this in twilight?

On god the post said 2/5

was putting a vote for pressure

because I'm a complete moron and updated the folks voting but failed to update the actual vote count. The entire goal of the unoffical vote count was to prevent an accidental hammer. Sorry I failed with this.

Thoth- 2/5- RexFavilla, Pie, Kohai, Whiteflame, and Mikal - Sh*t I think this was a hammer.

Vader- 1/5- Kohai

Kohai- 1/5- Thoth

Castin - 1/5 Mikal (I missed this in the last vc)

Not voting: Whiteflame, Vader, Casey, Wryly

I'm going to need you all to claim if you are a xenomorph or not a xenomorph. This is important for game solving.

Unofficial Vote Count:

Thoth- 2/5- RexFavilla, Pie, Kohai - L2

Vader- 1/5- Kohai

Kohai- 1/5- Thoth

Castin - 1/5 Mikal (I missed this in the last vc)

Not voting: Whiteflame, Vader, Casey, Wryly

to prevent accidental hammer

Claim tracker

1- iLikePie5 - Human

2- Whiteflame - Not Xenomorph

3- Thoth - the facehugger

4- Mikal - Not human, a full species

5- RexFavilla - no claim

6- Vader - no claim

7- David (Kohai) - The xenomorph, vengeful

8- Casey - No claim

9- Wryly (Castin) - Not Xenomorph

Youre not in a position to negotiate. Your justification also makes zero sense. So claim

No

Yes

VTL Thoth - L2

The claim makes zero sense. Facehuggers create Xenomorphs and if anything should help them and not go against them, esp if they are town.

This also really means we should all be claiming Xenomorph or Not Xenomorph. This will also help analyze.

Also, does it specify the adult stage in the Xenomorph life cycle? That would not contradict Facehugger being in the game, any more than having Squirtle means you can’t have Blastoise (I know how to reach late millennials and early zoomers.)

It does not specify what stage

I can't analyze this unless you full claim your role

+1

All xenomorphs? Eggs, facehuggers, hunters, queens?

Just the Xenomorphs - the species as a whole.

Yes. I am positive I am the Xenomorph

Unofficial vote count

Vote Count:

Thoth- 2/5- RexFavilla, Pie 

Vader- 1/5- Kohai

Kohai- 1/5- Thoth

to prevent accidental hammer

Are you claiming the species Xenomorph or specifically the black thing

the entire species as a whole

Claim tracker

iLikePie - Human

Kohai - The Xenomorph - Vengeful 

Castin - Not Xenomorph 

Whiteflame - Not Xenomorph 

Thoth - Facehugger

Mikal - Not human - Entire species

In his defense, Lunatic said the theme split was not obvious. There's no way in hell that it's humans vs xenos.

I’m not stating that it’s humans vs xenos, although that is possible. I’m saying his claim sticks out like a sore thumb.