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hey all. Excited for this one.


SOP claim popular


Justificarion I’m Bill Clinton who remained high approval ratings even after the Monica scandal

Kohai


Originally Posted by Helz on 10/4/2026 at 7:56 PM (post #40)
When I have the time and brain cells to dedicate to the site we should consider doing a cross community event. Good stuff comes from that

I’s really like this

Kohai

Would you prefer starting later today or wait until Tuesday? I can try to make it work but I won’t be that active for the first part of the day phase

Kohai


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/30/2026 at 12:07 AM (post #14)
I don’t care about the setup- this game very clearly came down to better plays. Pie + Lunatic is definitely one of the harder teams to beat.

Agreed. They’re two of the best scum players on the site

Kohai


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/30/2026 at 12:02 AM (post #12)
I don’t dislike you.

To be honest.

You aren’t one of our best, but you’re not horrible and you show up every game to play against monsters and I respect that.

Apparently you’re better on MU as well, so there’s a style aspect in there.


Thank you. There is a huge meta difference between us and MU. I feel like I prefer the MU-style meta but still prefer our site on balance.


I don’t think your politics make for a good moderator- although it’s better than it was. I’m skeptical of all moderators on the left because I’m extremely libertarian when it comes to speech.

This is valid and why we try and have a diverse moderation viewpoint. We don’t want our moderator team becoming an echo chamber.


And for the record, I have moved significantly towards the center since 2023.


As a developer you are excellent. You have fine idea that you try and code when no one else will, and you listen to feedback to always keep improving the site.


Thank you :) personally I much more enjoy the development side than the moderation side.

Kohai

Greetings,


A lot of people stated that they did not like the mafia host panel. I listened and made some improvements.


First, the dashboard was completely replaced with a simple and optional role PM randomizer.

Second, the older workflow has been restored. When creating a thread click enable game tools, fill out all the information, and use that to enable the vote counter.


Please let me know what you all think

Kohai

yeah the setup was something.


I was literally forced to lie about my justification because of how much of a stretch it is and no one would believe that we may keep zombies as pets.

Kohai

Current Games:


None


Sign-ups:


None


In the Hopper:


Shining

Savant - Epstein Island 

Mikal - re zero

Pie

Lunatic

Helz

Rex - Female rappers

Magoroth - Standoff Mafia

Thoth - TBD

Kohai - TBD

Whiteflame - Dungeon Crawler Carl


On Hold:


Wylted - Lulsec

Mag1cman

Casey_Risk

Kohai


Originally Posted by Vader on 9/29/2026 at 2:51 PM (post #225)
I wouldn’t have gotten Luna / Pie as a team either way in this game tbh so not really mad at myself for getting this wrong. I honestly was stumped and didn’t feel like dragging out the DP to this point

Honestly I doubt I'd have gotten luna / pie either. I'm glad this game is finally over

Kohai


Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/29/2026 at 12:25 PM (post #223)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/29/2026 at 11:17 AM (post #222)
Fun fact: I totally lied about my justification

Apocalypse mafia Town Kohai - Zombie apocalypse - zombie apocalypses aren't actually that scary, Shaun of the Dead is the best depiction of zombies, they die so easy we'd probably make them pets. You are the stump. After you die you turn into a stump; as stump you may still talk, including at night, but you don't count toward the game and you can't vote.

Ya that lie saved tou


Yeah. No one in their right mind would believe that.

Kohai

Fun fact: I totally lied about my justification


Apocalypse mafia Town Kohai - Zombie apocalypse - zombie apocalypses aren't actually that scary, Shaun of the Dead is the best depiction of zombies, they die so easy we'd probably make them pets. You are the stump. After you die you turn into a stump; as stump you may still talk, including at night, but you don't count toward the game and you can't vote.

Kohai

Seriously. Why do I put myself through this shit game after game? No one likes me and no one listens to me.


I’m done

Kohai

I’m so fuckin go done with mafia


Why the fuck did no one listen to me d1 when I told y’all not to let pie get away with that shit

Kohai


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/28/2026 at 10:51 PM (post #172)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/28/2026 at 8:44 PM (post #171)
See above as that’s case in point for why wf / Luna is the team.

Not scumreading someone =\= shielding them?

Also you have been bandwagoning pie all day phase, so the same argument applies to you.


Tell me why wf is town that doesn’t boil down to “I scum read pie / myself more.”


Give me an actual town case on wf

Kohai


Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/28/2026 at 9:33 PM (post #168)
There is 0 evidence of me or Whiteflame defending each other or even overtly town reading each other.

Whiteflame not being my primary interest doesn’t mean I am shielding him. The argument reeks of desperation


Ok so answer: What is your read on wf and why?

Kohai

It should be painfully obvious that it’s just wf / luna.


Notice they wont sus each other and have been hard shielding each other while casting shade on everyone else.


Reading EOD - Vader’s reaction does feel quite town.


Pie / Vader are never a team because of what I mentioned in the previous post. If the scum plan was to fake claim miller then pie would tell vader1 to SOP claim.


The fact there was no SOP claim from bedore indicates that scum most likely was not planning on tbe fake miller claim and rheu likelt didnt know our meta to SOP claim.


Hence WF / Luna is my solve

Kohai


Originally Posted by ILikePie5 on 9/28/2026 at 4:06 PM (post #159)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/28/2026 at 2:32 PM (post #158)
A bit over 24 hours left.

Im heavily leaning towards WF right now. Would like to hear where Vader’s head is at before voting.

Where are you at right?

I’m still coming to a wf / Luna team as the only team that makes sense.


The issue is if you were scum with Vader 2 and the plan was for your partner to SOP claim miller then you would have talked to your buddy before hand and told them to SOP claim.


Vader’s predecessor did talk some and had some time.


Unless there was no coordination between you I feel you and Vader are strongly unpaired.

Kohai


Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/28/2026 at 1:12 PM (post #154)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/28/2026 at 1:10 PM (post #153)

Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/28/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #152)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/28/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #148)
I just wanted to bring up this post again by Mag1c wrt Lunatic:


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/24/2026 at 10:25 AM (post #89)
Watch how Lunatic completely misrepresents me here. He is not town

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/24/2026 at 2:28 AM (post #81)
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=5&comment_number=146

Pie as "Solid Town"

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=152

One of two posts he says I’m scumreading Pie, and I have Pie as a townread in this post.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=157

Magic scum reading directly after ^

I literally have him as toss up here. Not a scumread.

Ignores the context of 156, where I noted a possible scum slip on Pie.

The reason being I could see one reason the possible scum slip wasn’t one.

Pie gave that exact explanation and the issue was resolved which I explained here

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=216

Which lunatic left out


https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=212

This is me just putting pressure on him to show up, not a scumread. I posted the same thing a second time later, with the same idea.

Says he still townreads him but casting shade.

And then he conveniently leaves out:



https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=223

These were my final real thoughts on Pie.

Idk the progression is and always has felt wierd. Then he goes full "town read on him" and protects him. The protection would have made more sense on one of his more consistent town reads like banana or thoth imo.


yes, I was suspicious of him early, and I did have a moment where a possible scum slip on my mind, but setting that aside, I mostly defended Pie. Why wouldn’t I doctor him? I already explained why I chose him over the other two. Banana and Pie was a closer decision, Thoth was obviously not going to be my pick.

Yes, I've read back through this progression. I've also read through the multiple follow-up posts where Luna acknowledged the lapses in his argument. Not saying it doesn't matter as a result, and I am trying to take Mag1c's reads into account at this point, I'm just trying to parse out how much of this specific post and the one he's quoting from is indicative of an effort to railroad Mag1c and how much is just selective reading.

I must say I really dislike your constant shielding of lunatic this day phase

...do you want me to just go back through the ISO with you? I'm acknowledging what I'm seeing. You can call it shielding if you want, but no, I'm not just reading into a single post and washing my hands of it. I'm reading back through their entire exchange. If you think that's inaccurate, tell me and I can walk you through it. I've got the time.


Do you honestly believe luna is town? If so, I want to hear your town case on luna

Kohai


Originally Posted by whiteflame on 9/28/2026 at 1:02 PM (post #152)

Originally Posted by Kohai on 9/28/2026 at 12:50 PM (post #148)
I just wanted to bring up this post again by Mag1c wrt Lunatic:


Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/24/2026 at 10:25 AM (post #89)
Watch how Lunatic completely misrepresents me here. He is not town

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/24/2026 at 2:28 AM (post #81)
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=5&comment_number=146

Pie as "Solid Town"

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=152

One of two posts he says I’m scumreading Pie, and I have Pie as a townread in this post.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=157

Magic scum reading directly after ^

I literally have him as toss up here. Not a scumread.

Ignores the context of 156, where I noted a possible scum slip on Pie.

The reason being I could see one reason the possible scum slip wasn’t one.

Pie gave that exact explanation and the issue was resolved which I explained here

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=216

Which lunatic left out


https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=212

This is me just putting pressure on him to show up, not a scumread. I posted the same thing a second time later, with the same idea.

Says he still townreads him but casting shade.

And then he conveniently leaves out:



https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=223

These were my final real thoughts on Pie.

Idk the progression is and always has felt wierd. Then he goes full "town read on him" and protects him. The protection would have made more sense on one of his more consistent town reads like banana or thoth imo.


yes, I was suspicious of him early, and I did have a moment where a possible scum slip on my mind, but setting that aside, I mostly defended Pie. Why wouldn’t I doctor him? I already explained why I chose him over the other two. Banana and Pie was a closer decision, Thoth was obviously not going to be my pick.

Yes, I've read back through this progression. I've also read through the multiple follow-up posts where Luna acknowledged the lapses in his argument. Not saying it doesn't matter as a result, and I am trying to take Mag1c's reads into account at this point, I'm just trying to parse out how much of this specific post and the one he's quoting from is indicative of an effort to railroad Mag1c and how much is just selective reading.


I must say I really dislike your constant shielding of lunatic this day phase

Kohai

I just wanted to bring up this post again by Mag1c wrt Lunatic:



Originally Posted by Mag1cman on 9/24/2026 at 10:25 AM (post #89)
Watch how Lunatic completely misrepresents me here. He is not town

Originally Posted by Lunatic on 9/24/2026 at 2:28 AM (post #81)
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=5&comment_number=146

Pie as "Solid Town"

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=152

One of two posts he says I’m scumreading Pie, and I have Pie as a townread in this post.
https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=6&comment_number=157

Magic scum reading directly after ^

I literally have him as toss up here. Not a scumread.

Ignores the context of 156, where I noted a possible scum slip on Pie.

The reason being I could see one reason the possible scum slip wasn’t one.

Pie gave that exact explanation and the issue was resolved which I explained here

https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=216

Which lunatic left out


https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=212

This is me just putting pressure on him to show up, not a scumread. I posted the same thing a second time later, with the same idea.

Says he still townreads him but casting shade.

And then he conveniently leaves out:



https://www.debatecraft.com/mafia/c/active-games/posts/87/apocalypse-mafia---dp1?page=8&comment_number=223

These were my final real thoughts on Pie.

Idk the progression is and always has felt wierd. Then he goes full "town read on him" and protects him. The protection would have made more sense on one of his more consistent town reads like banana or thoth imo.


yes, I was suspicious of him early, and I did have a moment where a possible scum slip on my mind, but setting that aside, I mostly defended Pie. Why wouldn’t I doctor him? I already explained why I chose him over the other two. Banana and Pie was a closer decision, Thoth was obviously not going to be my pick.