Kohai

Let's slow down a bit here

Kohai - Hitomi Shizuki - Emissary

No justification for role

Vader - Sayaka Miki - 2x Redirector

My character is Sayaka. My character has a really good sense of movement and flow because they appreciate classical music and are also energetic and open to change.

Mag2cman - Kyoko Sakura - Inspector

Her father kills his family and himself, except for her. She’s made an orphan and forced to develop street smarts, making her more observant of the world around her. Hence inspector.

Pie - Mami Tomoe - 1x Bulletproof

Fuck it, we don’t have time. I am CCing Wryly. I am the 1x Bulletproof. My justification is that I was the only one to survive a car crash and fated to be an orphan

REF - Junko Kaname - Contract Cop

I'm the contract cop. I can target a player and learn whether they accepted a witch contract. NP1 I targeted Kohai and had him on my scum list the second he didn't come straight out and say that he accepted, didn't put himself down on his own list as having accepted it, then scumread me after saying that I accepted it. Last night I targeted Magic and learned that he declined, but that's kind of useless information now. The theory I've been going off of is that the person who lied about accepting the contract is probably the one who actually became scum. This is part of why I am so locked in on Kohai as the convert. I targeted Magic because I genuinely did not think that Pie would choose to be scum in this game but I don't know Magic as well. If Pie is scum I'm 99% certain he is OG scum, not the convert.Whiteflame - Homura Akemi - Ascetic

Wryly - Kyosuke Kamijo - 1x Bulletproof

I have a 1x Bulletproof because my character was saved from a cruel fate by a magic girl's wish.

Whiteflame - Homura Akemi - Ascetic

Anyway, I said I'd claim if anyone else pushed for it, and I will: I'm Homura Akemi and I'm Ascetic. The justification is that I was isolated from others due to being bedridden for half a year and that I don't trust others.

Remember how I was saying I would like to be rolecopped? Because of the fact that Doctor and BP aren’t believable?

Remember how I told WF I would prefer to wait till DP4 to full claim? It was to bait the NK.

Exactly why I think you are town and it's possible for town to have two bps.

Again I'm asking everyone to please slow down for a moment

Unofficial Vote Count

Wryly (2/4) | ILikePie5, Vader

Pie (2/4) | Magic2man, wryly

RexFavilla (1/4) | Wryly

Kohai (1/4) | RexFavilla

Not voting: whiteflame, Kohai

And I as scum CC the BP? What type of logic is that? Especially when I can get the lynch on you with me, Vader, WF, and REF?

Literally what incentive do I have as scum here for this CC?

Which is why I'm tinfoiling both of you being town and town just having two bps. I'm working on a long post so please let's slow down for a few moments and think things through

It says “or” plus it doesn’t saying whether it was character or role or both.

Here's the problem: We already had a doctor flip. BP + Doctor by itself doesn't make sense. As scum I would never fake claim bp after a dr flip.

Read the day 1 info

1. Scum have been provided with fake-claims and/or information to help them concoct fake-claims. There may be anti-claim mechanics.

Since mafia was given fame claim why would the fake claim be something a town already has

Ugh. I’m paranoid af but I want to town lock pie.

Given mafia have both recruits and kills a doctor and two bp can be plausible to give town multiple defense.

Never mind. I had it in my mind that wf’s justification was being bedridden so I thought that didn’t go with your justification. I was conflating with what they said earlier

No one vote. Pie is lying one moment while I dig for the proof

unvote

Ok now I am completely lost.

How? I don’t think Vader would get any results.

What are you even saying

I don’t think a redirector would get a result saying if it went through.

also is anyone seeing a real issue here: Pie wants to lynch Vader while stating Vader could also test whiteflame’s ascetic claim?

More like scum Vader redirecting the role cop away

Or if Vader was scum period.

Also I’m concerned if you and Vader are paired then it would be easy for him to deflect the role cop away from you.

Wtf? That’s the stupidest thing you could do. Absolutely not. That’s literally a waste. It just role confirms WF. Let Supa test WF

How? I don’t think Vader would get any results.

Wouldn’t it be better for the role cop to target wf and verify ascetic claim?

Why do you want to lynch Rex?

Have you full claimed yet?

You’re not getting a claim from me today until you have 4 committed votes to lynch. It’s stupid for me to claim right now, and you’ll see why when I do. I’ve already invited the rolecop.

I feel like this is a trap.

Unofficial Vote Count

RexFavilla (2/4) | whiteflame, Wryly

ILikePie5 (1/4) | Kohai

Kohai (1/4) | RexFavilla,

Not voting: ILikePie5, Vader, , Mag1cman

My biggest problem with ref is that he has done literally nothing this game. I see what you mean with the issue of a corrupt cop but I’m not seeing that this game. His death tunnel on me feels townie and he’s been fairly consistent with how little he has posted. This post from him screams town:

 Christ are we seriously VTNLing two nights in a row? You do realize we have to kill scum eventually, right? We have literally no info to go off of, aside from behavior. Can anyone honestly say that Kohai has been acting like he's town this DP? This is honestly shocking to me. Consider my vote permanently locked on him next DP if we don't lynch today.

To whoever rejected my attempt to leave this godforsaken town behind:

Hate. Let me tell you how much I've come to hate you since your recruitment attempt failed. There are 387.44 million miles of printed circuits in wafer thin layers that fill the DDO mafia archive. If the word 'hate' was engraved on each nanoangstrom of those hundreds of millions of miles it would not equal one one-billionth of the hate I feel for the scum team at this micro-instant. For you. Hate. Hate.

VTL Pie

I’m stuck between pie, wf, and Vader being OG scum. I hate how pie refuses to claim.

My lynch order preference

1. Pie
2. Whitrflame
3. Vader
4. Ref
5. Mharman
6. Castin

Not unusual for Pie to establish a read based on something like this. I agree, he shouldn't be treating the custom role as a given, especially based on this bit of info from Thoth.

Fair point.

Why Rex?

Let me flip this on you: what are the exact reasons you townread Supa?

1. I don’t think scum Vader ever openly claims to be a redirector. Remember the last time he was scum and he fake claimed absorber? The pint is that redirector draws too much attention to him and doubt he would do it as scum

2. To answer your question earlier these are the posts I misread

That’s interesting because I got asked the same thing as well And mine was for getting a hidden ability

I had misread this as confirming Thoth’s point that a hidden abilkty could have been used but wasn’t t

He definitely mentioned it to me in DMs. Yes the discussion was before he probably made the game but it was a pretty important factor. This whole game has custom mechanics. It’s not that far fetched. Actually it’s more likely than not that there is a custom role.

I was going back through my messages with Thoth and back in September he mentioned he was going for normal roles and may include a custom role.

Personally the more I think about it the more I realize a contract cop probably isn’t a custom role but just a custom modifier. The contract cult is far more likely to be customed than a contract cop. After all my emissary information also departs from the normal role.

I asked Thoth about this. He told me that while he thinks he did mention custom roles to you in a discussion a few months ago, it was before he ever thought of the Madoka theme. He did not confirm to me that custom roles are in this game in particular. So your reason for eliminating Rex from POE doesn't hold up. 

Honestly this is major scum points for pie.

Well that makes sense but turn the question around. What if a Redirector redirects the Doctor to an Ascetic. That’s a more ambiguous question especially if the Redirector visits 2 targets. Why would a mod want to deal with? 

The redirect fails and the doctor protects tbe original target. Not that much of a headache.