Kohai

I actually think this may confirm you’re not the recruiter.

also if I was actually scum here do you think I’d admit right out of the gate that I initially accepted the contract offer right out of the gate?

I feel at this point Rex is just goin after an easy and obvious mislynch.

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I think Thoth all but confirms wf’s claim. Still unsure of alignment but this moves him up a little.

If I was actually scum do you think I would actually seek mod confirmation of your claim and post his answer?

FYI I got mod confirmation that wf is being honest regarding acestics being able to be. recruited or receiving contracts.

What do your results tell you? Does it tell you who visited them and what actions they did or just that someone visited them?

So you had two hidden abilities? That seems OP, damn.

Only one was actually mentioned in my role PM. This entire setup is wtf

To be clear: I had a hidden ability that was made clear on my role card. This hidden ability was revealed to me on N1 and that was the revealing characters. There was another hidden ability that could have been unlocked if the contract went through. I do not know what that hidden ability would have been. I'm sorry for not making it clearer

Yes, it did say it would unlock a hidden ability.

Post #24 whiteflame admits to receiving and declining the contract offer. This is completely contradictory to their ascetic claim. By definition ascetics are immune to all non-lethal night actions which would include recrutiment attempts. This does not jive with "Anyway, I said I'd claim if anyone else pushed for it, and I will: I'm Homura Akemi and I'm Ascetic. The justification is that I was isolated from others due to being bedridden for half a year and that I don't trust others."

More votes for whiteflame. I think they definitely slipped

Anyway, I said I'd claim if anyone else pushed for it, and I will: I'm Homura Akemi and I'm Ascetic. The justification is that I was isolated from others due to being bedridden for half a year and that I don't trust others.

If you were ascetic wouldn't you be immune from all night actions including recruting attempts and contracts? This directly contradicts your earlier statement stating you got a contract request

Please explain what it is I’m seeing

If I was actually scum here I would never volunteer as much information as I did on the very first post of day 2. That would be way too risky for someone who is scum.

This is literally the biggest stretch I have ever seen in my life. At this point I'm almost convinced you are scum hoping for an easy mislynch. I wasn't as thorough with my claim list as I should be. Notice also I didn't add magic's claim that he accepted it but didn't go through. The list wasn't supposed to be extremely comprehensive, but just enough to keep track of basic claims.

Been saying for a while that I'm fine with character claiming if that's what we decide to do. I'll volunteer to go first, but we have to have enough people onboard for how we're going about it.

I would really like you to go first esp since you're my top sr and I already claimed

Wouldn't be a first to have a game where the recruitment mechanic was a substitute for an NK. As for the success/failure rate, I agree it would be pretty bastard for there to be so many possible recruits. Don't think Thoth is running that.

This is what's bothering me the most about this setup. How tf did everyone get a contract request? This setup is already extremely bastard by my standards and everyone knows how much I hate bastard games unless they're announced as such at the beginning

 I doubt we can garner that kind of information this DP. 

Honestly I think we've gotten as far as we would get in this day phase. People need to start claiming character so we can get somewhere.

Didn't you say earlier that you rejected it? Did you lie? Why? It sounds like mechanically you accepted it.

Did you not read my original post:

Kyubey targeted me asking me to enter in a contract. I had a feeling this was an alignment changing role. I was intreagued so I initally accepted the offer but then retracted it after reading up on it (though it wouldn't have mattered anyway as the contract ended up failing). It was mod confirmed to me that this was an alignment changing role. We are dealing with a cult or a recruiter.

It's because my theory mostly hinges on Kohai's behavior (as Casey/Mikal has been pretty inactive), and that Kohai himself is a spent force and keeping him around doesn't really have utility to town

Sounds like you're after an easy ml

I’m asking you to rephrase in your own words what happened last night.

I got a message stating that I had an opportunity to sign a contract and unlock a previously hidden ability. I initially accepted it not thinking twice however when I read up on the character I realized this was probably an alignment changing role. I attempted to back out and was told it was too late; however that point was moot because the contract failed to go through.

Please answer my question

Did you read my opening post? Your question is answered there

We were ALL recruited. There was no need for Casey to decide anything at the beginning of the DP if the recruitment is universal. The decision was clearly made later on, as I accepted but it still failed and I got the failure message much later in the NP.

So you're theory is that if casey = recrutier that Thoth just submitted the night action for them? What type of sense does that make?

Again my read on casey / mikal is not mikal = town but rather mikal =/= recruiter.

I've been trawling through the last DP and this one looking for shifts in reads, as that's usually the biggest sign of a recruit, and can even point to the recruiter. I've developed a bit of theory: Casey/Mikal was the recruiter. They recruited Kohai.

Did you not read what I said? It is impossible for Casey / Mikal to be the recruiter because I got the message offering to be recruited while Casey was AWOL. This proves that Casey / Mikal is NOT the recruiter. That said, I do not have a solid read on that slot as they are a possible recruited.

You all can verify this. What time did you get the message and compare it to the time Thoth posted the announcement in the #mafia channel requesting a replacement in the discord? I know this is very OGI but the point remains that Mikal cannot be the recruiter

Back to Kohai: Having no justification is crazy. Thoth can also be weird, but a bluff from Kohai is far from impossible

if I was actually scum here I’d at least try and pull something out of my ass

oh, right. Duh.

but then it being revealed to you overnight… just weird.

This entire setup is weird.

No, basic lore knowledge says Kyubey as recruiter makes sense. If I can find it on the fandom wiki, then Whiteflame definitely knows about it.

Fair. I do admit that I have been tunneling wf a bit hard.

I edited the OP.

Thst’s not what an emissary usually is. This isn’t Thoth’s original mafia community though. It’s plausible.

An emissary per the MU is usually a role that starts with information about a person who is town aligned. I don’t see any role that quite matches up with knowing slanting about the setup so I guess that’s why I was called an emissary.

The other thing here: No warning to town about voting you last DP? Why

It was a hidden ability. I did not know that voting for me had a chance of having character revealed

Correct. It stated the name of my character and a description of my character but did not give me a justification for why I am an emissary or why I know what I know